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May 21st, 2015
SkuxxBrah

thank you supercell

I'm able to farm 6 level 10 walls per day with ease since this update. Thank you supercell ♡
May 21st, 2015
PALMITu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hadiar

I'm seeing more and more inactives every day. And I'm not talking TH1 inactives who only launched the game once or twice. I mean full on TH 9 and TH 10 inactives.

The guild I'm in has become a ghost town. Hardly anyone plays anymore.

This change has been extremely polarizing, dividing the user base between hardcore players and casual players. The fact that so many are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ at this change is proof enough that something went horribly wrong. For every 1 person complaining here, there could be 3 or 4 people silently leaving the game without a word.

Obviously a large portion of players are unhappy with the change, myself included. My base upgrades have ground to a halt, because my resources are disappearing faster than I can recoup them. I'm definitely a casual player. I have a job, a wife, and a kid -- I can't stay on the game for hours constantly raiding bases. I can get maybe one raid in a day, if that. I relied on my collectors, and I relied on exposing my TH for the 12 hour shield.

Now? I don't look forward to launching the game, because I know I'm going to see back to back attacks where I lose half a million in resources.

Did I purposely dump trophies to hang out in lower leagues? Yes. Did I do it so I could "bully" lower THs? No -- the loot penalty made that a pointless endeavor. I did it so I could remain relatively safe while gaining resources slowly but surely through my collectors, and gradually upgrade my base.

So this is Supercell essentially saying that my play style is unacceptable to them, and I'm unwelcome as a customer. Which is a shame, because I have plenty of disposable income, and would keep my collectors boosted by purchasing gem packs. Which won't be happening again -- when my current stash of gems runs out, I will not be buying anymore gems.

Why would I want to remain a customer to a company that clearly doesn't want me as a customer?

Yes, agree, in my clan with 90% TH9, 50% get off my clan with a 2 years old is doomed, people get out of the game, claiming its boring pressing next all day, poor loot, only strong TH in MP....

I think if a TH7/8 goes to master, its because they can handle majority off TH9/10 there!

30 min pressing next to play a 3 min of attack only in higher TH is not fun at all.
Cant accumulate elixir, because now i need to make tier 3 troops to attack in MP, to get 5% more, if the attacks succeeds. IF! 70% can get 50%, lose gold and elixir more than ever.

This game used to be fun. Now its boring...
May 21st, 2015
darkRuler

:thumbsdown: i am th 8 and getting crushed everytime by th9s having level 10+ heroes they are able to completely wreck me, what a level 7 barb king can do in front of lvl 10 + AQ AND BK. i am unable to accumulate loot, i am unable to attack in sessions due to some personal problems . currently i am in gold 3/2
IDEA : matching th should also match troops level i mean if any th9 has almost same troops level that of mine only then he can attack me lvl 6 troops are able to crush any th 8 plz solve it SC this is making game of th 8 as hell.
sorry for my english.
May 21st, 2015
PALMITu

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkRuler

:thumbsdown: i am th 8 and getting crushed everytime by th9s having level 10+ heroes they are able to completely wreck me, what a level 7 barb king can do in front of lvl 10 + AQ AND BK. i am unable to accumulate loot, i am unable to attack in sessions due to some personal problems . currently i am in gold 3/2
IDEA : matching th should also match troops level i mean if any th9 has almost same troops level that of mine only then he can attack me lvl 6 troops are able to crush any th 8 plz solve it SC this is making game of th 8 as hell.
sorry for my english.

im in the opposite side, im a TH10 with TH8 troops, cant beat TH10, befora i could find a fair loot on TH8, but now cant get loot, because only find good loot on FULL TH10, and in the storage, cant get there, no way.

I agree, matchmaking by TH is a big mistake, not every one has a linear upgrade.
Match making should be by troops and defense prior.
May 21st, 2015
xtalx

Quote:

Originally Posted by PALMITu

im in the opposite side, im a TH10 with TH8 troops, cant beat TH10

Why are you a TH10 with TH8 troops? That is your problem, not the matchmaking.
May 21st, 2015
badfish1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorend

For the most part I agree. The problem as I stated before is at least in M2 & M3 the matchmaking window is to wide. If I am getting paired against more C2-M3 players than I am M1-champ playera there is a problem. A decent TH9 willing to fight any TH9 and most non max TH10 bases shouldn't be struggling to find opponents. I don't expect free cups here, but I also don't like the fact that a significant number of match ups are against bases offering only 1-4 cups for a 3 star win. The fact that a matchup can be made offering ONLY 1 trophy is inherently wrong.

1. There are more TH9s in C2-M3 than there are in M1-champ.

2. TH9s in M1-champ are more likely to be shielded at any given time than TH9s in C2-M3.

If you want to get better matches appropriate to that trophy level, upgrade to TH10. Don't want to rush? Then why are you rushing to get so many trophies and then complaining when the system can't find other TH9s at your trophy count with no shield every single time you press the next button?

If there are not enough unshielded opponents at your trophy count and town hall level to match you with every single time you press that next button, who do you expect to be matched with?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marika[Supercell]

For most players who are attacking at a Trophy level appropriate to their progress in the game, little or no change will be apparent in their multiplayer matchmaking searches. However, for players who have dropped to a very low Trophy count, these changes will inhibit (though not completely prevent) matchmaking against significantly weaker targets. These players will instead be matched more often to other players at a similar Town Hall level who have also dropped to a very low Trophy count. In the cases where there are very few appropriately-leveled targets available, these players may have to wait longer in matchmaking to find targets.

This behavior also takes effect in the opposite direction; weaker players will be less likely to be matched against disproportionately strong players. For example, a player at Town Hall level 5 in the Silver league will be very likely to find opponents at Town Hall levels 4-6 who are also in the Silver league.
May 21st, 2015
Babulus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hadiar

I'm seeing more and more inactives every day. And I'm not talking TH1 inactives who only launched the game once or twice. I mean full on TH 9 and TH 10 inactives.

The guild I'm in has become a ghost town. Hardly anyone plays anymore.

This change has been extremely polarizing, dividing the user base between hardcore players and casual players. The fact that so many are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ at this change is proof enough that something went horribly wrong. For every 1 person complaining here, there could be 3 or 4 people silently leaving the game without a word.

Obviously a large portion of players are unhappy with the change, myself included. My base upgrades have ground to a halt, because my resources are disappearing faster than I can recoup them. I'm definitely a casual player. I have a job, a wife, and a kid -- I can't stay on the game for hours constantly raiding bases. I can get maybe one raid in a day, if that. I relied on my collectors, and I relied on exposing my TH for the 12 hour shield.

Now? I don't look forward to launching the game, because I know I'm going to see back to back attacks where I lose half a million in resources.

Did I purposely dump trophies to hang out in lower leagues? Yes. Did I do it so I could "bully" lower THs? No -- the loot penalty made that a pointless endeavor. I did it so I could remain relatively safe while gaining resources slowly but surely through my collectors, and gradually upgrade my base.

So this is Supercell essentially saying that my play style is unacceptable to them, and I'm unwelcome as a customer. Which is a shame, because I have plenty of disposable income, and would keep my collectors boosted by purchasing gem packs. Which won't be happening again -- when my current stash of gems runs out, I will not be buying anymore gems.

Why would I want to remain a customer to a company that clearly doesn't want me as a customer?

That's pretty close to what I have experienced since update
May 21st, 2015
Superfinch30

Another post that might prove unpopular.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hadiar

I'm seeing more and more inactives every day. And I'm not talking TH1 inactives who only launched the game once or twice. I mean full on TH 9 and TH 10 inactives.

The guild I'm in has become a ghost town. Hardly anyone plays anymore.

This change has been extremely polarizing, dividing the user base between hardcore players and casual players. The fact that so many are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ at this change is proof enough that something went horribly wrong. For every 1 person complaining here, there could be 3 or 4 people silently leaving the game without a word.

Obviously a large portion of players are unhappy with the change, myself included. My base upgrades have ground to a halt, because my resources are disappearing faster than I can recoup them. I'm definitely a casual player. I have a job, a wife, and a kid -- I can't stay on the game for hours constantly raiding bases. I can get maybe one raid in a day, if that. I relied on my collectors, and I relied on exposing my TH for the 12 hour shield.

Now? I don't look forward to launching the game, because I know I'm going to see back to back attacks where I lose half a million in resources.

Did I purposely dump trophies to hang out in lower leagues? Yes. Did I do it so I could "bully" lower THs? No -- the loot penalty made that a pointless endeavor. I did it so I could remain relatively safe while gaining resources slowly but surely through my collectors, and gradually upgrade my base.

So this is Supercell essentially saying that my play style is unacceptable to them, and I'm unwelcome as a customer. Which is a shame, because I have plenty of disposable income, and would keep my collectors boosted by purchasing gem packs. Which won't be happening again -- when my current stash of gems runs out, I will not be buying anymore gems.

Why would I want to remain a customer to a company that clearly doesn't want me as a customer?

I can't say I've seen many inactives, never seem to, but that may just be my luck.

With regard to the changes and influencing SCs customer base, i still think they win, much as it sucks for those affected.

We have all come to the realisation quite quickly that active, higher level players benefit, less active are worse off, as cannot rely on passive income.

Now, I don't want anyone to quit, but i dont think the people that are quitting because of these conditions are hurting SC in the slightest.

1, People that dont play much, are unlikely to have a regular boosting budget.

2, If they have already reached th9-10, have probably already bought gems for builders, or made them through achievements.

In short, (only my opinion and logical thinking, lets not jump on the: give me numbers right now bandwagon) the people that are severely adversely affected were of low gem value, or had already spent most if not all of what they were ever likely to.

Anyone that used to bulk-gem resources is completely unaffected, and they are SCs biggest money spinners per head.

Probably their biggest money spinners in terms of sheer volume though, are all those super active people that like boosting and gemming ends off upgrades because of loot overflow.

This last group are generally delighted with new matchmaking.

Which system would you choose as the bean counter in this scenario?
May 21st, 2015
Yoyobuae

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorend

For the most part I agree. The problem as I stated before is at least in M2 & M3 the matchmaking window is to wide. If I am getting paired against more C2-M3 players than I am M1-champ playera there is a problem. A decent TH9 willing to fight any TH9 and most non max TH10 bases shouldn't be struggling to find opponents. I don't expect free cups here, but I also don't like the fact that a significant number of match ups are against bases offering only 1-4 cups for a 3 star win. The fact that a matchup can be made offering ONLY 1 trophy is inherently wrong.

The longer your spend searching (ie. nexting) the lower the trophy offers will become. As a workaround you can return to village and start searching again to get higher trophy offers. It's a bit of a hassle but it works. XD
May 21st, 2015
Pete82

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfinch30

I can't say I've seen many inactives, never seem to, but that may just be my luck.

With regard to the changes and influencing SCs customer base, i still think they win, much as it sucks for those affected.

We have all come to the realisation quite quickly that active, higher level players benefit, less active are worse off, as cannot rely on passive income.

Now, I don't want anyone to quit, but i dont think the people that are quitting because of these conditions are hurting SC in the slightest.

1, People that dont play much, are unlikely to have a regular boosting budget.

2, If they have already reached th9-10, have probably already bought gems for builders, or made them through achievements.

In short, (only my opinion and logical thinking, lets not jump on the: give me numbers right now bandwagon) the people that are severely adversely affected were of low gem value, or had already spent most if not all of what they were ever likely to.

Anyone that used to bulk-gem resources is completely unaffected, and they are SCs biggest money spinners per head.

Probably their biggest money spinners in terms of sheer volume though, are all those super active people that like boosting and gemming ends off upgrades because of loot overflow.

This last group are generally delighted with new matchmaking.

Which system would you choose as the bean counter in this scenario?

Bingo. But its not just for bean counters. Those that spend time or money (both valuable resources) on this game now have a better experience. Those that refuse to spend either have a worse experience. This is 100% fine by me. You gotta pay one or the other. Honeslty, if you don't put some time into the game why do you care about progress anyway?

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