Hello new sig quote :smirk:Quote:
Originally Posted by trooperc007
To the OP: No, it's been suggested many times, always getting the same response, no, it will lead to trolls :rolleyes:
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Hello new sig quote :smirk:Quote:
Originally Posted by trooperc007
To the OP: No, it's been suggested many times, always getting the same response, no, it will lead to trolls :rolleyes:
I guess I can imagine myself in this situation and it would suck. Someone mentioned that the clan promoted them to leader and it's the clan's fault but that isn't normally the case. Normally people join a clan and the leader is already there so that doesn't help at all. Also with War XP leaving the clan is a less desirable option if you have had some success in leveling the clan up.
I either think SC should implement where if someone is inactive for x period of time, maybe a month, they are automatically demoted. If a polling/voting system was implemented, I think it would need to be a concensus or very high percentage, not to promote a co to leader, but to simply demote the leader. I could see a couple of co's vying for leader and the clan being split on the vote even though the entire clan agrees the leader should be demoted.
All this being said, a clan is still functional with co's running it. Wars can start, everything can be changed, just cannot boot the leader.
Yes he does. And the last thing he needs is fr that management problem to have a way to make itself a bigger one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behelith
The reality is that the feature the OP is asking for would be misused too much. There are a lot of power mad little punks running around who (despite the fact they don't know a darn thing about leadership hunger to be leader becxause its a self esteem thing for them. This would result in a constant running of polls as all these kids seek to climb over each other.
Another big use of this would be the trolls that love using high level accounts to blow up low level ones (I.E. noobs that don't know any better) There is currently an ongoing sport with these guys to join one of these low clans, flip out some max troops to everyone and then say they will stay if they are made leader. If the leader falls for it or caves to peer pressure from the others to give it to him (because they think it will be so cool to have what they ses as a god from Olympus in their midst) the guy then kicks everyone and leaves laughing. I have sat in high level clans where guys go out on walkabouts and I hear their stories when they come back saying who they exploded while their friends all clap them on the back and laugh with them. (its disgusting in my own book) If the OPs suggestion were implemented, if you have a leader that knows better and is refusing to give it up the guy can get the rest of the clan to take the decision away from him.
So in the bigger picture of things its a bad idea.
I do however sympathize with the OPs plight, that is a rare situation (thankfully) but in fact would be a situation where its not out of line if they could replace the leader. I am sad for him and wish there was a way SC could allow it in his particular case.
To OP - Its a tough break but I advise you cut your loses. If you continue to add experience to this clan its just good money after bad. (and it sounds like you already did enough of that) your best bet is to stop the bleeding right away and move everyone over to a new clan asap.
You suggest a twist that might get around the troll problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShaneHed13
What if it was only possible under these circumstances. (and not because some swinging Richard showed up in the clan giving out troops and asking for a vote)
What if there was a designation that could go to one Coleader to be successor. There is no other rank or privileges, and the leader can select a person at will, but there will always be a selected. In the event the leader leaves the clan that successor gets promoted. If the leader goes 2 months (we want this to be very long because things do happen and it is his clan so maybe even longer to cover deployments, seasonal jobs etc..) or however long without signing in it goes to the 'successor'
I realize there is a successor process already if the leader leaves the clan, that can be leveraged to pick the default value if the leader has not made their own choice. Or it even could just be the value in any circumstance.
This would be a way to allow leader replacement without exposing him to overthrows.
Sounds like the victim of the 'Misclick of Doom'.
Really though, there should be some pratical mechanism to boot an inactive Leader. Before it wasn't an issue, since all that was lost was the tiny gold deposit/fee used to make it. Now you have Clan XP, which is time and effort invested into the clan.
Researching how long is a reasonable inactive time for a Leader to qualify for replacement shouldn't be hard, right? Even Guild Wars had that.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by WarrenJames
If the Leader has not logged in for X time (30 days of inactivity seems reasonable), then the next Co-Leader who logs in gets a pop-up asking if they want to take over leadership. Click "yes" and the Co-Leader becomes Leader, and the Leader is demoted to Co-Leader (and thus, kickable).
The Co-Leader (now Leader) can then "fix" the clan leadership as needed.
30 days is actually too short because there are guys that go on deployments and seasonal jobs for longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uthrac
But also I can't help but to notice the elephant in the room. You have to wonder what a bunch of guys were thinking to keep ringing up XP points in a clan where the leader acct had gone dead. At some point this does have to get back to the ....can't engineer stupid out of the game... category. I have given some sympathy here and even weighed in with a possible suggestion. But I am still shaking my head at the guys that get themselves into these situations in the first place. Its like it starts raining but they keep hanging their laundry out there anyhow and then complain about how many clothes got wet.
First ... love the pic in your sig.Quote:
Originally Posted by rwelshjr
Second ... this isn't really an issue. Leader is gone for 30 days on deployment, gets bumped down to Co-Lead and someone else takes over. When the original Leader comes back, the new Leader can simply hand the clan back to the original leader.
Issue: Leader of a Clan goes missing / inactive.
Solution Needed: An automated way to get a new leader for the clan without bugging SC Customer Support.
Reason This is New: Before Clan XP, the players could have just started a new clan. With Clan XP, the other players are more invested in rewards earned in the clan and cannot just "start fresh" without losing accumulated rewards.
And that is why you promote only those you really trust with Co-Leader. If not, you are basicly ask for it. And if you are fooled and betrayed, can't do much in game design about that either.
Even with my clan, we knew the Leader was being less and less active, and finally he gave me leadership, since I was the most active and trustworthy (Woo! go for having no life and too much time :D ... Wait.. :saywhat: That's not a good thing! :facepalm:)
Most extend inactivity periods, like military service (ironic, right? Can't be a War Chief, because IRL you are on duty military duty) people know a head of time. So this idea isn't really for those situations. It is for when a Leader just drops inactive without a word. Or the 'Misclick of Doom' strikes, and somehow give Leadership to some inactive person.
Yeah, we have 3 members who are active in the military. They opt themselves out of wars when they know they have field training coming up, one has promoted someone else when they were going to be gone for 2 weeks.
If you are in a good clan and have a responsible leader, they will promote someone else when they can predict where they will be. The 30 day (or whatever time frame) will be for the irresponsible people who up and quit without demoting themselves.