Preventing Hopers

Gullible or not, there is no 100% way to prevent people from leaving during war. It's just not possible.

I think the majority of these posts start because the OP recently got burned by the problem. The key to protecting yourself from wartime defectors is to grow your clan slowly. This provides us with a very dependable core of players who can provide cover for wartime defectors.

Consider the following:
1. We started our clan with 5 dependable friends. Between the 5 of us we can cover attacks on all bases in a 10v10 war. If we tried to push for a 50v50 war with 45 new members we would only be able to cover 1/5th of the enemy bases should all the new members prove unreliable.
2. We do not allow alt accounts in war. If you do you are doubling your potential exposure to wartime defectors. If 1 individual leaves, should be no problem. If 1 individual with 2 accounts leaves, maybe a problem.
3. If you have to entice a new member to join (or stay) with promises of promotions or troops that member is not vested in your clan, they are only vested in themselves. It's best to let those players go be a headache for a different clan.

Everyone wants to be the next Mega Empire but that doesn't happen overnight. Good clans are formed over time and with a lot of work. There are lots of good mature players out there. The way to get them is show that you run a stable clan which is not affected by poor choices mad by a single individual (like a wartime defector)

We have grown our clan slowly. We have been around for about 9 months, and 43 members strong currently. I don't see what harm there is in having the information I presented. War stars are available to look at. I guess if someone only has 10 war stars, that can be considered negative. If someone only has 943 trophies, that could be considered negative. I don't see how average length of time in a clan is negative, or how many clans you have been in is negative. Maybe the people who don't want this information presented, are hoppers themselves.

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Originally Posted by Bolson

We have grown our clan slowly. We have been around for about 9 months, and 43 members strong currently. I don't see what harm there is in having the information I presented. War stars are available to look at. I guess if someone only has 10 war stars, that can be considered negative. If someone only has 943 trophies, that could be considered negative. I don't see how average length of time in a clan is negative, or how many clans you have been in is negative. Maybe the people who don't want this information presented, are hoppers themselves.

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That's the point I was trying to make earlier. It does not matter if you can't see why those things are negative. It does not matter if I or anyone else here can either. All that matters is that SC does and their decision was based on that. They hold the cards. That's why its so pointless to discuss here what you or me or anyone else does and does not get.

its also why I was taking a harder line to push some of the preventive measures you can practice. Its because I know you are not going to get any help complaining to users how you don't understand the game company's decisions that I am trying to get you to see another way. To the above point nothing is ever a 100% guarantee, but that also would include any statistics you wanted to add. The preventive measures have proven to be pretty close to 100% though. Clans that practice them are usually a long time between defectors so its proven.

I guess, but I thought this was a forum where you could present ideas or suggestions as to what people would like to see. I presented an idea and it seems like people in this forum has ruled it out. I guess I didn't understand that you worked for Supercell and it was decided that this was idea that your company didn't want to pursue. I am glad that somebody from the company read it.


or maybe these forums are a waste of time, and nobody from supercell reads them.


in any case we will continue to operate has we have for the last 9+ months. What I really found offensive was being called gullible for offering a suggestion or having the assumption cast on me that our clan was burned. I have seen this topic discussed in the past, and I offered something that would help solve the problem. People would show a little more discretion in choosing the clans to enter, and people accepting them would have a little more information.

Again, I thought this was a place to offer suggestions. I won't make this mistake again

You do realize that the title of your thread says "Preventing Hopers." :facepalm: I like to hope very much. :p

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

You do realize that the title of your thread says "Preventing Hopers." :facepalm: I like to hope very much. :p

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And, you should have a comma after the word, "says". Typos happen, grow up. It was funny when the first guy caught it.

Hoppers and wars is so easily managed these days, with the leaders being able to choose who will be in the war.


Don't run your clan "easy come easy go"

Set the clan to "invite only". ("Invite only" is a bad description, it means "by application". "Closed" means "by invitation only")

Don't accept random requests immediately. Wait to see if they are requesting elsewhere. Prefer requests with individualised request messages.

Don't let new accounts into war until they have stayed in the clan non-stop for one week. Tell new members that come and go that they have to choose. Delay letting old members back in, make them wait instead.


Be especially stringent on these rules for accounts that would be in the top half of your clan. Every high level no shows hurt, a few low level no shows don't hurt.
Judge applicants ineligible for war harshly, as they have just abandoned a war.
Don't accept obvious gemmers, generally they are rated high for war but the player has poor playing skills.
Check their troop donation number compared with player XP.

You can't force people to fight any which way, so don't trap a person in an awful place with some leadership imposed mechanism. You have complete control over who is in and out of war already. If new recruits wanted to hop off then you'd want to kick them anyway. Best penalty for hoppers (or otherwise being kicked from clan) is that person losing their opportunity to be part of your team. The better your team, the greater chance players will work hard to stay there.

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Originally Posted by Bolson

I would like to see on a players profile:

How many clans a person has been in
Average length of days in a clan
how many times kicked from a clan

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if you see a player who is war locked then kick them, that is all you need to know

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Originally Posted by Bolson

And, you should have a comma after the word, "says". Typos happen, grow up. It was funny when the first guy caught it.

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Lol. Love your response.