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Hello, i'm looking for a wallbreaker tutorial as sometimes i doesn't understand what happens in their mind (drop 2 of them on same spot and they don't go to the same wall), sometimes they try to break a wall without anything behind, sometimes not etc... are they drunk people or just low brained ?? :)
thank you
That would be a pretty good idea for a guide....
And and it mainly depends on your placement. AI of clash troops are pretty stupid
I don't have a guide per se, but I can give a few tips and tricks.
First of all, the AI. Wall breakers will go for go for the nearest compartment of walls, regardless if anything is behind them or not. If there is an empty 3x3 compartment next to a 3x3 compartment with a cannon in it, and you drop the wall breaker closer to the empty one, it will go for that empty compartment. This makes it extra important to make sure you place them well. Knowing where to place them on a base with many compartments is something that really just comes with practice and experience with the troop.
Second, timing and position of placement. You want to make sure you have something taking fire from defensed before you drop your wallbreakers. A few giants or a golem is best for this. However you dont want to drop the wallbreakers right next to thd tank. One of the biggest enemies to wall breakers is the mortar. A big mistake I used to and sometimes still make is dropping wallbreakers too close to my tank and a mortar that was aiming at the tank takes all the wall breakers out. A good way to counter this is to drop them a few tiles away from the tank so that the splash from stray mortars won't hit the wallbreakers. Another threat to wallbreakers are giant bombs on the outside next to a wall. To avoid all of your wallbreakers dying a giant bomb, drop one where you want to drop your bulk and let it test for bombs, then when you know its safe, you can drop a bigger group.
I know its not the most detailed guide, but I hope it helps a bit.
The most important thing to know is wall breakers target buildings, not walls. To be specific they target walled-in buildings. If the building is only partially walled in but the walk to it is very far (not sure abt the exact distance, 12 or so spaces maybe), it can count as "walled-in" as well. This means if you attack some types of funneling bases where buildings are only partially enclosed, depending on where you deploy it is sometimes impossible to get wb to target the place you want them to because the walk to that building is less than 10 spaces. They will then target some other point which is fully walled or entails a longer walk.
The other common mistake with wb besides getting them killed by splash is to drop at a point where they are equidistant to 2 separate compartments. It is then a matter of luck where they go. This can severely screw up raids.
Well i guess I was mistaken when I said they will target empty walls. I could have sworn that one of my wallbreakers targeted an empty compartment once, maybe I saw it wrong tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOEWen
Trust me. You've seen it happen. I see it quite frequently.Quote:
Originally Posted by charizzle
Can one of you guys explain why walkbreakers would run sideways or backwards once breaking through the first row of walls? I had a group bust open a wall then run backwards to where I initially dropped them where they attempted to blow up a single standing wall. Also had them ignore a junction in front of them and instead bust open the other side of a compartment causing my Pekkas to walk right back outside.
I had similar bad behavior whenever I drop them in groups. I now drop them one by one (or two by two when not raged). Work much more effectively now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba061
@OP: A bit old but still relevant video guide from Flammy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEjOSEN9Llo
guys, it reassure me to see i'm not the only one that doesn't understand them right sometimes. So yeah i have been in these 2 situations : sometimes a wb is going to a wall without anything behind it, and sometimes not, why ? And yes sometimes i drop 3 wbs for example, 2 of them break the wall, and the third one prefer to go back and broke this wall at a different location just near the 2 other (with no junction or what, just in the middle of nowhere) instead of going for the next compartment 3 tiles away...
I swear they are partying too much, these are alcoholic kamikaze !
Lol i only read the first words "most important thing is that wallbrrakers target buildings"Quote:
Originally Posted by KOEWen
you know, i was like o.0
As with most things in clash, there is a certain random element throw in too. (e.g. def-seeking troops will usually target nearest def, but sometimes one or two hogs/loons out of a pack will split off to a further defence) But they do target buildings, not walls.
A good e.g. are those bases with one-square walls distributed on the outside to push back the spawn points. If you drop wbs, do they head for those walls (which they would if they targeted nearest wall piece) or head for the main base (which has the actual walled-in buildings)?
Wallbreaker AI, it's one of the unsolved mysteries of the universe! I don't count on mine getting through more than 1 or two layers of a base myself. Players have wised up to neutralizing them with base design. If you see stair step patterns or offset compartments in a base it is going to severely mess with the wall breakers AI bringing the random element into play. Keep an eye out for it in your raids.
It's not 100% guaranteed, but I feel like I can count on my WB getting quite deep inside the enemy base. The trick is to space them out a lot. I send first 2 or 3 WBs with like one second spacing between them, rage them. Wait for my troops to make it a bit into the base, then send more WBs. By then most of the army is deep into the core of the base.
I do agree that some bases (war bases specially) make things a whole lot more difficult.