defense sucks

Probably not the best thread title, but the idea holds true. Defense blows. It's 99% of the time costly. Sometimes, more costly than the attacker even gets.
One star is considered a win. Well, you lose at the very least trophies.
Then there is the loot lost.
And traps to re arm.

Even if you win, a defense, sometimes all you protect is a few cups. But you still lose all the resources, and possibly re arm traps.

It's never a "win". The defender is always always paying.

Re think how your star system works. 2 or more stars should be considered a win, less call it a draw.

Maybe drop re arm costs for 0 stars? Give defense something to account for, other than a revenge. Which, can take days, or weeks to land.

Sry my english isn't the best...
But you definitely got the problem! A few things more. I noticed many of lvl 100 max bases with town hall nine ( I am lvl 70) which totally destroy me and my mates. The pvp system should be based on the player lvl or town hall lvl because this shows you the power of the player. I lost over 500.000 ressources in 12h! I think this is... really sad :((((

I've been banging my head on this issue off and on for months. There isn't any good solutions out there. At least, solutions that people are willing to stop and think about.

I could write a page or three listing and detailing all of the problems defence has, and what repercussions it causes in many other key features of the game.

Tempted to post a few links to threads I've made in regards to defence, but its just best to check my profile and see the list of made threads, since 95% of them are in this subforum anyway.

Two words: Defense bonus.

Problem solved imo.

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Originally Posted by clannis

Two words: Defense bonus.

Problem solved imo.

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That would defeat the purpose of farming.

Yeah, really genius.

I think the point of this is because SC doesn't want a "lazy2win" atmosphere.. It makes you forced to strike back! It also encourages players more then ever to make strong defensive layouts, and be careful how they spend their loot before they log off. Anyways, when the attacker losses, it's more often then not you're gaining more trophies then if they 3 starred your base! I pushed once and got 300+ trophies in 2 days from pure defense... Made me go from 2200 to 2500.

I don't think there's a problem with defense. If you arrange your base properly you shouldn't face these issues.

Also by making it two stars or more just makes it harder for attcakers and will cause many complaints

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Originally Posted by clannis

Two words: Defense bonus.

Problem solved imo.

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Right... :rolleyes:

What kind of bonus? How much of one? How is it earned? Is it fair? Will players like it? Does it have spinners?

If only it were that simple, if only...

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Originally Posted by Fimbo9

I don't think there's a problem with defense. If you arrange your base properly you shouldn't face these issues.

Also by making it two stars or more just makes it harder for attcakers and will cause many complaints

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Wrong direction there with the idea. Talking about making the gameplay of defence better, not just buffing defence, or something just mechanical to 'improve' defence.

We want people to punch each other's lights out, but after a few fights, boxing gloves became a good idea so good fights could be maintained.

Basicly, defence needs something to blunt the disappointment players get when raided.

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Originally Posted by Callywally

That would defeat the purpose of farming.

Yeah, really genius.

I think the point of this is because SC doesn't want a "lazy2win" atmosphere.. It makes you forced to strike back! It also encourages players more then ever to make strong defensive layouts, and be careful how they spend their loot before they log off. Anyways, when the attacker losses, it's more often then not you're gaining more trophies then if they 3 starred your base! I pushed once and got 300+ trophies in 2 days from pure defense... Made me go from 2200 to 2500.

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How so? It could defeat the purpose of farmbases, not farming itself.

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

Right... :rolleyes:

What kind of bonus? How much of one? How is it earned? Is it fair? Will players like it? Does it have spinners?

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I was ofcourse talking about resources, a third of the league bonus should be fair perhaps.

I guess two words were too ambitious to describe my solution.

Yeah, I agree. There really is no benefit to using a base that defends your town hall other than trophies, but those are not important to most players. Maybe if there was more incentive to successfully defend, then there would be less people using farming bases, which is another complaint I see sometimes.

A loot bonus seems like the most simple solution. It would be the same amount as a loot bonus for attacking based on your league. That would at least cover the cost of the average amount of traps that get triggered (usually just skeleton traps for me). Of course if all of the traps are triggered it won't cover the cost, but if all traps are triggered them you probably didn't win the defense in the first place.

But yes, successfully defending needs to be more rewarding. The way the game is now, losing defense and getting a shield is a better outcome.