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i'm a lvl 103 th9 player and I'm,upgrading my walls to 8 now its going good but I thing COC have to consider upgrading walls to lvl 8 also be able with elixer because i need gold to upgrade other things but everything i can do with elixer is maxed so now i have a lot of elixer and nog gold so COC consider to upgrade walls,to 8 using elixer
I also am a th 9 level 103. I found it to be a pain to get all those level 8 walls. The difference was that I did them all at th 8 when there was better loot available for me. It was well worth the wait. I think Supercell is right using level 9 and up walls for elixir no matter how boring and tedious it may take.
Considering Supercell didn't have to do a second emergency update to fix the loot hole they made, I think it is evident that found a workable level for this feature. A feature they regreted almost right away, and likely still, with all these whines for the people that don't know better.
It used to be that you could not upgrade walls at all with elixir. Whey they allowed it, they made it so you could do it too soon. You should thank supercell for allowing you to do your lvl 8 walls to lvl 9 rather than asking them to fix something that is not broken.
I agree with the opener.LVL8 walls cost much gold to upgrade.Even in TH8 most of the buildings need huge amount of gold to upgrade while there are much fewer buildings to upgrade with elixir. Please make it available to upgrade Lvl8 walls with elixir too. Tnx
They did, and then they took it away. They aren't going to give it back.Quote:
Originally Posted by jvdabz
But this guy needs gold for other things!
This is a new one...you're TH9, which means I'm assuming you've been playing the game long enough to know that at one point there was no lix for walls, then they made it for level 8 walls and higher, but had to change it to 9. Now why would they change it unless it created a big problem with gameplay?
As long as you have at least a handful of black walls you'll be able to dump e into level 9 walls when your e upgrades finish, and still use gold mostly for defenses, so suck it up.
I've been putting my elixir outside my walls, just to get rid of it. I had it maxed for 10 days without anything to upgrade. I wash't even focussing on gathering it in the first place! Ridiculous..
You're TH9, yet you've maxed your elixir upgrades and want Supercell to give you the easy button now?Quote:
Originally Posted by clashofclansmrx
Sorry, but destroying the economy again just so people with poor resource management skills can have it easier is a horrible idea.
This forum is for presenting NEW ideas and requesting NEW features.
However, the feature you're requesting is an old, broken one that was removed because it was found to be defective.
If you were perhaps requesting that they bring back a feature that was previously removed for causing problems, but the root cause of those issues have now changed, this would be different. For example, Supercell removed the waterfall from the game because it caused performance issues. If you were requesting that they bring back the waterfall, you could list reasons such as newer devices are more powerful and able to handle the graphics without causing any problems.
But as for the issue of TH7s and TH8s dumping resources into low-level walls while TH10s have a 75% and 50% loot penalty against them, nothing has changed. Maybe a better suggestion would be to allow walls to be upgraded with elixir at any level, but remove the loot penalty entirely :cool: Not saying this is a good idea, but it's better than the one you're suggesting.
The removal of elixir for level 7 and 8 walls was a step forward toward a better economy. Bringing this broken feature back under the same conditions would be a step back and would only make things worse.
Max Elixer at TH8 is intentional. It allows TH9s to get elixer, removed elixer from the game when more than your storage can hold is raided, and it helps TH10s get loot from TH9s.Quote:
Originally Posted by beingaclanleadersucks
Bringing back Elixer walls would remove elixer from the high level economy entirely and make the game unplayable for those who're at that high level game.
I find this sad that people beg and plead for more this and more that and when they get more than they hoped, they whine that they have too much. :facepalm:
I find the lack of these people's ability to have fun with the surplus as rather depressing.
The grass is always greener when you take off your rose-tinted glasses. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by WarrenJames
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Wait, what were we talking about?
I think the quote you are wanting starts with "Be careful what you wish for..."Quote:
Originally Posted by Xitra
Actually, I have to disagree with this. This isn't how the game was "designed". It's just the current state, after two changes. Edit: Sorry for the misquote, the word used here was "intentional", which is basically the same, but not technically the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFailology
About 7-8 months ago, you could only buy walls with gold. Any level.
If you think TH8's have excess elixir now, think about how it was with TH9's and TH10's back in the day. Even if a TH9 didn't upgrade any walls, they would have a ton of excess elixir. And if a TH9 only upgraded their walls to level 9 (left level 10 for TH10), they would have had excess elixir on a similar scale to TH8, if not considerably worse.
Because TH9's had so much excess elixir before, TH10's didn't need to farm TH8's for elixir. And TH9's didn't really need to farm TH8's either, because the elixir was worthless to them at some point. Not so worthless that they left their storages outside (though some might have), because you still have to pay for troops. But worthless enough that TH8's could have been bone dry (with respect to elixir), and TH9 would have been just fine.
In fact, TH9 would STILL be fine if TH8's were bone dry today.
However, TH9's can spend elixir on walls. Suddenly, elixir isn't worthless to TH9's anymore. It's not just the fact that elixir disappeared from TH8's that caused the economy to crash. The other half of the problem (which current TH9's conveniently ignore) is that elixir is VERY valuable to TH9's today. You can spend all your gold on defenses, and all your elixir on walls, or vice versa. Someone going the TH8.5 route can spend the first couple months dumping all their elixir into offensive upgrades, and all their gold into walls. Then, when they've maxed their war armies, they switch roles, dumping all their gold into defenses, and all their elixir into walls. At no point does elixir become worthless, and so it suddenly becomes this huge problem that TH8's were bone dry.
So no, the game wasn't designed for TH8's to feed elixir to TH9's. That's a side effect of two failed changes: rolling elixir walls out to TH7's and up, and then removing elixir walls, but not high enough. They should have removed elixir walls for level 9 walls as well. So long as TH9's can dump elixir on level 9 walls, the elixir is too valuable to them for them to have a level-headed conversation about easing the elixir imbalance at TH8.
I have to disagree with these statements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xitra
TH9s have relied on elixir from TH8s for as long as I can remember. Elixir is the lifeblood of the game. The upside before the September 2014 update was that we could farm much more easily with elixir-heavy armies. In fact, there was a lot more diversity to the armies that people used in everyday raids. In my opinion, it was a lot more fun. But after the September update, the diversity in the armies you see people farming with suddenly became barch barch barch, BAM BAM BAM. Sure, a lot of people barched back then, but it wasn't anything like what you saw during the period between September and December.
TH9s were never fine when TH8s were dry, and TH10s were never fine when TH9s were dry. And it became a wasteland in September.
This is from my own personal perspective, of course. Others may have different recollections from different points of view. But my experience of farming at TH9 was entirely before the elixir-for-walls update:
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Please stop with this! Especially as a TH9! Anyone remember the last time they did this!? Killed the game and the entire economy was shot.... I have an idea! lets bring that back....Quote:
Originally Posted by clashofclansmrx
I'd like to point out that many th9s are able to have a level-headed conversation about th8 resource imbalance. The problem is how many times this subject is brought up. There is a reason supercell took it away (as has been discussed and I'm sure you're aware of). I fortunately got to take advantage of it at level 8 and am doing the same at level 9. At the same time I would say that it should be pushed to level 10 or they should find some other way to maintain bases with farmable amounts of elixir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xitra
There was a thread suggesting only allowing to buy elixir walls if you stay above the maximum loot cap, and I'm sure there are other good suggestions but coming in here and asking to reinstate something that was tried and failed is not the way to start a level-headed conversation about resource imbalance because the answer is simple. It was tried, it didn't work, it was taken away.