Anti-TH Rushing

Hey! I'm a BSCS student and game development is very much related to me. So, I always have ideas. And this is a good suggestion. I call it Anti-Th Rushing. This means you can't upgrade your Town Hall until you fully upgraded all the other buildings, and troops. Just the same as you can't upgrade to level 5 Mortar if you're not Th7. (While the only requirement to upgrade TH is to upgrade your Gold Storage to reach the upgrade price) With this, it will be very challenging and the game will be much fair. Because TH Rushing really sucks and unfair, in a way that other players can unlock features without putting real effort, time, and patience. I know this feature will make other players quit but the good thing is that this prevent idiots and immature players in your game. If I'm a developer I would hate to see idiots playing my game so -- Thanks!

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Now let's make a twist. I want to keep the original idea, but it's still the player's choice. How we gonna make it? Let's put GAME MODES, just like in many many games (e.g. Timed mode, Relax mode, Adventure mode, Arcade mode). And in COC, the FREE MODE and ANTI-TH RUSH MODE. This game modes can be set in the settings, you can change it once a month.

Let's put in a few programming:
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if (the player wants to play and upgrade freely) {
set the game to FREE MODE;
}
else if (the player wants to play without rushing) {
set the game to ANTI-TH RUSH MODE;
}
***

Thank you very much for those who paid attention to my thread. Let's leave this to Suppercell. Bye! :)
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Upgrading the town hall before every single upgrade is complete has its pros and cons just like maxing every single upgrade before upgrading the town hall has its pros and cons. This gives players the freedom to choose their own path in the game, which in my opinion is more fun - not more limitations and restrictions.

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

Because TH Rushing really sucks and unfair, in a way that other players can unlock features without putting real effort, time, and patience.

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How is it unfair if you also have the same freedom to upgrade your own town hall anytime you choose just like everyone else?

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Originally Posted by badfish1979

Upgrading the town hall before every single upgrade is complete has its pros and cons just like maxing every single upgrade before upgrading the town hall has its pros and cons. This gives players the freedom to choose their own path in the game, which in my opinion is more fun - not more limitations and restrictions.



How is it unfair if you also have the same freedom to upgrade your town hall anytime you choose just like everyone else?

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Because some players don't care if they're TH Rushing, they just want to unlock all the features as soon as possible. While other players example at TH6 really wanted to have D.E. but they are really patient to maxed out TH6. It's unfair in multiplayer battles and clan wars. Always annoying.

Thats not how the game is supposed to be played thats the point. Everyone has their preferences and they proceed accordingly you can't have restrictions like this dude.

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

Hey! I'm a BSCS student and game development is very much related to me. So, I always have ideas. And this is a good suggestion. I call it Anti-Th Rushing. This means you can't upgrade your Town Hall until you fully upgraded all the other buildings, and troops. Just the same as you can't upgrade to level 5 Mortar if you're not Th7. (While the only requirement to upgrade TH is to upgrade your Gold Storage to reach the upgrade price) With this, it will be very challenging and the game will be much fair. Because TH Rushing really sucks and unfair, in a way that other players can unlock features without putting real effort, time, and patience. I know this feature will make other players quit but the good thing is that this prevent idiots and immature players in your game. If I'm a developer I would hate to see idiots playing my game so -- Thanks!

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Maybe on of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Im th 9 and u expect me to max all lvl 30 heros and lvl 10 walls even valkyries? Nope!

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Originally Posted by Wokki

Maybe on of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Im th 9 and u expect me to max all lvl 30 heros and lvl 10 walls even valkyries? Nope!

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Maybe. Yeah. You have to max it. That's how the game goes on, upgrading. Maybe you're not suited for th 9 to state like that.

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What do you plan to do after upgrading to TH10? And there's no more TH11 yet, quit the game because you don't want to max everything? You're too funny. Everything will go to the point where you have to max the heroes, walls, and valkyries. My idea is just to do it in the right time.

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Originally Posted by vivekvardhan

Thats not how the game is supposed to be played thats the point. Everyone has their preferences and they proceed accordingly you can't have restrictions like this dude.

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I thought about it already before posting. All the positives/negatives. I just want to hear what Supercell think about this.

Unless you're a rusher yourself, you should be glad to see a rushed base. The loot works in your favor and they aren't that hard to raid.

Just another "nobody should be able to play CoC in any way except MY way" thread. Move along. TH rushing hurts nobody except the people who do it in excess.

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

Hey! I'm a BSCS student and game development is very much related to me. So, I always have ideas. And this is a good suggestion. I call it Anti-Th Rushing. This means you can't upgrade your Town Hall until you fully upgraded all the other buildings, and troops. Just the same as you can't upgrade to level 5 Mortar if you're not Th7. (While the only requirement to upgrade TH is to upgrade your Gold Storage to reach the upgrade price) With this, it will be very challenging and the game will be much fair. Because TH Rushing really sucks and unfair, in a way that other players can unlock features without putting real effort, time, and patience. I know this feature will make other players quit but the good thing is that this prevent idiots and immature players in your game. If I'm a developer I would hate to see idiots playing my game so -- Thanks!

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I agree that rushing is an approach I personally am against. But its the prerogative of the village owner to go with any approach that they want with their base. I am sure the OP reads this and thinks that is silly that they do that. But from their point of view the OP is silly for thinking they should not be allowed to. COC is a free society and everyone is free to make their own choices how to play. And then from there is gets sorted out where there are winners and there are loser. That is how a game works.

Yet another post where someone wants to control everyone else. File this next to 'no one should be allowed to leave my clan during war', 'co leaders should not be allowed to use the features of a co leader unless I say so', and 'Supercell, please protect me from anyone doing anything bad to me....ever.'

Bad idea. Period.

This would take a key element of strategy away from a strategy game.


I'm not sure what's "not fair" about TH rushers exactly. Having rushed bases to attack helps out players that are grinding out higher level defenses and troops...may OP is TH6 or something and comes across a lot of rushed TH7s and 8s that he can't really attack. That's just a blip in terms of the overall game though...At TH8 and 9, rushed THs on your level or higher are a big part of your lifeblood.

Also does this guy realize that almost no one maxes TH9? Level 10 walls and level 30 heroes are kind of insane. You would lose a TON of players this way because they don't want to put in the effort to max their base. So no, bad idea, won't happen.

I want to chime in to say what an awful idea this is. Why should we have to play the game the way you want it to be played? I think rushing is valuable in certain instances. If I never use Valks/healers/goblins, and I am sitting on a ton of elixir at TH8, I'd rather upgrade to spend that elixir on TH9 upgrades and lego walls than continue to be looted while garbage troops I don't use upgrade. It is not giving anyone an advantage to rush their TH as fast as they want. If they rush to TH10 with TH7 defenses, not only are they not going to be able to attack well, but they will have to do it against TH9 or 10's unless they want to suffer 50% or greater loot penalties. It's hard enough to loot as a TH10 with maxed troops, so I'd hate to do it with low level troops and try to defend other strong TH10s can easily take 100% of my badly defended loot.

It seems like you have learned just enough at school to be dangerous and come up with bad ideas before really thinking them through.

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Originally Posted by yanks8981

I want to chime in to say what an awful idea this is. Why should we have to play the game the way you want it to be played? I think rushing is valuable in certain instances. If I never use Valks/healers/goblins, and I am sitting on a ton of elixir at TH8, I'd rather upgrade to spend that elixir on TH9 upgrades and lego walls than continue to be looted while garbage troops I don't use upgrade. It is not giving anyone an advantage to rush their TH as fast as they want. If they rush to TH10 with TH7 defenses, not only are they not going to be able to attack well, but they will have to do it against TH9 or 10's unless they want to suffer 50% or greater loot penalties. It's hard enough to loot as a TH10 with maxed troops, so I'd hate to do it with low level troops and try to defend other strong TH10s can easily take 100% of my badly defended loot.

It seems like you have learned just enough at school to be dangerous and come up with bad ideas before really thinking them through.

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Also, what he said.

Yeah, disagree with this.

I love the, "It's not how the game is supposed to be played" argument, when it has been that way since inception and through several years of updates. If SC didn't intend the game to be played this way, they would have patched it a long time ago.

Take for instance, our current war starting at 5pm (Central) tonight. We have a non-rushed clan with two TH 10, 5 TH 9, and then 12 other CC 8 or lower. We are battling a clan with 6 TH 10 (all rushed) 3 TH 9 (2 rushed) and a combination of lower TH levels.

Super excited about this because the loot will be great when we destroy them.

Additionally, people who rush are going to find it infinitely more difficult to get loot with bad troops attacking 2-3 TH lower than them so the punishment is already there.

Not a problem, if you don't like them, don't accept them in your clan.

There goes these "very smartest kind" of people who spent their whole lives on COC. While you protect TH Rushers because they are the ones who feed you. This idea can be configured in so much possible ways, as I've said I thought about the positives/negatives. Maybe just to guide beginners, until they're at TH6 and can stand on their own feet. Because if someone not told me to maxed out everything before upgrading TH, I might have been to TH10 as soon as possible, and would've get so much discrimination from the "very smartest kind" people like you. My idea intends to help "beginners" who don't know much like you, "the very smartest kinds of people". Supercell knows that they don't have to do everything I've said.

Uuuhhhmm no

A rule I think should be technically enforced, for the good of foolish young players, is that you cannot upgrade your TH higher than the lowest level elixir collector that you have.

Generally, players have elixir collectors a few levels higher than their TH. When they don't, these are the unhappy, kids.

There's nothing inherently wrong with wanting to rush to high level, but forcing a minimum elixir income means that the player can at least build the armies he is capable of building.

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

Hey! I'm a BSCS student and game development is very much related to me. So, I always have ideas. And this is a good suggestion. I call it Anti-Th Rushing. This means you can't upgrade your Town Hall until you fully upgraded all the other buildings, and troops. Just the same as you can't upgrade to level 5 Mortar if you're not Th7. (While the only requirement to upgrade TH is to upgrade your Gold Storage to reach the upgrade price) With this, it will be very challenging and the game will be much fair. Because TH Rushing really sucks and unfair, in a way that other players can unlock features without putting real effort, time, and patience. I know this feature will make other players quit but the good thing is that this prevent idiots and immature players in your game. If I'm a developer I would hate to see idiots playing my game so -- Thanks!

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Your argument that it makes the game unfair is invalid due to the fact that's its a player choice

How about a message that pops up and tells u that u r making s bad mistake by rushing if it's really bad and then a beginner can say accept or cancel

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

There goes these "very smartest kind" of people who spent their whole lives on COC. While you protect TH Rushers because they are the ones who feed you. This idea can be configured in so much possible ways, as I've said I thought about the positives/negatives. Maybe just to guide beginners, until they're at TH6 and can stand on their own feet. Because if someone not told me to maxed out everything before upgrading TH, I might have been to TH10 as soon as possible, and would've get so much discrimination from the "very smartest kind" people like you. My idea intends to help "beginners" who don't know much like you, "the very smartest kinds of people". Supercell knows that they don't have to do everything I've said.

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Don't get all sarcastic just because you can't handle the truth. It really was a horrible idea. I am sorry if the reason its so horrible is going over your head. TBH you do not understand games so much like you were trying to brag up in your first post. That has been revealed here.

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

Maybe. Yeah. You have to max it. That's how the game goes on, upgrading. Maybe you're not suited for th 9 to state like that.

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What do you plan to do after upgrading to TH10? And there's no more TH11 yet, quit the game because you don't want to max everything? You're too funny. Everything will go to the point where you have to max the heroes, walls, and valkyries. My idea is just to do it in the right time.

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There is this thing called the loot penalty...:facepalm:






I am usually nice...but this is DUMB DUMB DUMB

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

Hey! I'm a BSCS student and game development is very much related to me. So, I always have ideas. And this is a good suggestion. I call it Anti-Th Rushing. This means you can't upgrade your Town Hall until you fully upgraded all the other buildings, and troops. Just the same as you can't upgrade to level 5 Mortar if you're not Th7. (While the only requirement to upgrade TH is to upgrade your Gold Storage to reach the upgrade price) With this, it will be very challenging and the game will be much fair. Because TH Rushing really sucks and unfair, in a way that other players can unlock features without putting real effort, time, and patience. I know this feature will make other players quit but the good thing is that this prevent idiots and immature players in your game. If I'm a developer I would hate to see idiots playing my game so -- Thanks!

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if your telling me to upgrade my walls before moving on that will be to damn hard to do.
i am a th7 and if you are telling me to maxed out everyhing is stupid like i need to max BK that takes DAYS to upgrade.4 level7 walls is equivalent to a upgrade for mortar level5 so it will be very difficult to do this.
Considering all other things maxing EVERY BARRACKS. Like 1.5 mil on upgrades for lv9.
totally NO.
All price of gold upgrades are VERY HIGH and adding the walls is too much hard and players will be stuck in their th level forever maxing out the walls.

BTW What th level are you?

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

There goes these "very smartest kind" of people who spent their whole lives on COC. While you protect TH Rushers because they are the ones who feed you. This idea can be configured in so much possible ways, as I've said I thought about the positives/negatives. Maybe just to guide beginners, until they're at TH6 and can stand on their own feet. Because if someone not told me to maxed out everything before upgrading TH, I might have been to TH10 as soon as possible, and would've get so much discrimination from the "very smartest kind" people like you. My idea intends to help "beginners" who don't know much like you, "the very smartest kinds of people". Supercell knows that they don't have to do everything I've said.

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Okay, but forcing them to max everything isn't the way to do it, and will cause players to quit at higher levels.

There may be a way to address it though without forcing people to max their base at each town hall. If you haven't completed about 2/3 of the upgrades available at that level (troop upgrades and defense at least, not necessarily including traps or walls), the villager would appear with a message:

"Whoa there chief! Upgrading the Town Hall so soon? Some of your villagers are concerned you're getting a little ahead of yourself, and are scared we're going to start getting attacked by bigger armies!"

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Originally Posted by Habbakuk

if your telling me to upgrade my walls before moving on that will be to damn hard to do.
i am a th7 and if you are telling me to maxed out everyhing is stupid like i need to max BK that takes DAYS to upgrade.4 level7 walls is equivalent to a upgrade for mortar level5 so it will be very difficult to do this.
Considering all other things maxing EVERY BARRACKS. Like 1.5 mil on upgrades for lv9.
totally NO.
All price of gold upgrades are VERY HIGH and adding the walls is too much hard and players will be stuck in their th level forever maxing out the walls.

BTW What th level are you?

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I'm really hoping this is a troll, because if this guy is serious, then I just feel really bad for him. I was a BSCS student myself, and game development is also very near and dear to my heart. If I were his department advisor, I'd give him a long lecture about needing to change majors. Maybe a career in politics?

This idea is unbelievably bad. It has all the hallmarks of a control freak who has no idea what creativity and unscripted gameplay are all about.

To the OP: How about this. Let's just make it so you can only upgrade things by clicking on an idle builder. The builder will tell you the next thing on the upgrade list, and what the price is. No choice whatsoever, just upgrade the next item on the list.

And while we're at it, people shouldn't be able to choose their base layout. Each item you buy goes in a pre-designated location.

And your army? Yeah, you can't choose that either. You use the same army every time. Same spells too. No choice.

Thanks OP, you made the game so much better. :smirk:

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Originally Posted by Nolanvw

How about a message that pops up and tells u that u r making s bad mistake by rushing if it's really bad and then a beginner can say accept or cancel

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Yes sir. This idea can be expanded, bended, and balanced in so many ways. Maybe the system won't allow you to upgrade if you don't have 50% maxed buildings and troops, or simply if you're not yet fitted in the proceeding TH level.

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

Don't get all sarcastic just because you can't handle the truth. It really was a horrible idea. I am sorry if the reason its so horrible is going over your head. TBH you do not understand games so much like you were trying to brag up in your first post. That has been revealed here.

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People won't mind this idea if it's really horrible. Won't you read everything I posted? Yeah there are negatives, but the positives still exist. My idea don't have anything to do with myself though. It's for those who didn't know. And it's not putting a script in the game, just giving players a guide. People here are saying "WE NEED TH RUSHERS IN ORDER TO GROW"

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Originally Posted by Habbakuk

if your telling me to upgrade my walls before moving on that will be to damn hard to do.
i am a th7 and if you are telling me to maxed out everyhing is stupid like i need to max BK that takes DAYS to upgrade.4 level7 walls is equivalent to a upgrade for mortar level5 so it will be very difficult to do this.
Considering all other things maxing EVERY BARRACKS. Like 1.5 mil on upgrades for lv9.
totally NO.
All price of gold upgrades are VERY HIGH and adding the walls is too much hard and players will be stuck in their th level forever maxing out the walls.

BTW What th level are you?

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It's called Anti-TH Rushing man. If you think you can rush it at TH7-TH10, well it's terrifying. I also said this idea can be applied just from TH1-TH6. And my idea was so deep, you can bend everything.

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

Yes sir. This idea can be expanded, bended, and balanced in so many ways. Maybe the system won't allow you to upgrade if you don't have 50% maxed buildings and troops, or simply if you're not yet fitted in the proceeding TH level.

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I have a better idea:
How about a progress bar for each Town Hall?
If you are not at least 50 percent maxed, the game will say,
"You are not 50 percent maxed at this Town Hall. Are you sure you want to upgrade anyways?"

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Originally Posted by jonnguy2014

I have a better idea:
How about a progress bar for each Town Hall?
If you are not at least 50 percent maxed, the game will say,
"You are not 50 percent maxed at this Town Hall. Are you sure you want to upgrade anyways?"

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Exactly sir. I don't understand people saying "No" immediately. While we can give our ideas to reduce TH Rushing in the community. Because I'm sick of seeing posts, laughing at a TH Rushers, because they are very smart.

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Originally Posted by badfish1979

Upgrading the town hall before every single upgrade is complete has its pros and cons just like maxing every single upgrade before upgrading the town hall has its pros and cons. This gives players the freedom to choose their own path in the game, which in my opinion is more fun - not more limitations and restrictions.

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It is fun only if the players know what they're doing, suddenly most of them don't know.

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

Exactly sir. I don't understand people saying "No" immediately. While we can give our ideas to reduce TH Rushing in the community. Because I'm sick of seeing posts, laughing at a TH Rushers, because they are very smart.

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If you meant your idea simply as a strongly worded caution/warning to people to try to persuade them not to rush, then the idea isn't completely terrible. I get the impression that English isn't your first language, so maybe there's a language barrier that's preventing you from getting your idea across. If that's the case, then I hope you can find the right words to express your idea. Until then, we're just going to keep calling it a bad idea. Because the way you originally wrote it, and then defended it? Pretty bad.

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Originally Posted by Xitra

If you meant your idea simply as a strongly worded caution/warning to people to try to persuade them not to rush, then the idea isn't completely terrible. I get the impression that English isn't your first language, so maybe there's a language barrier that's preventing you from getting your idea across. If that's the case, then I hope you can find the right words to express your idea. Until then, we're just going to keep calling it a bad idea. Because the way you originally wrote it, and then defended it? Pretty bad.

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If I got a bad first impression, then it's alright. I think this is the first time someone had suggested this idea, that's why so many people misinterpreted/overacted in it. It's fresh and young, yet can be something better. I'm used to deal with critics.

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Originally Posted by George1971

A rule I think should be technically enforced, for the good of foolish young players, is that you cannot upgrade your TH higher than the lowest level elixir collector that you have.

Generally, players have elixir collectors a few levels higher than their TH. When they don't, these are the unhappy, kids.

There's nothing inherently wrong with wanting to rush to high level, but forcing a minimum elixir income means that the player can at least build the armies he is capable of building.

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Having looked at some new members, I think this rule is most important at TH 2-4. Some kids have no idea about economics.

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Originally Posted by George1971

Having looked at some new members, I think this rule is most important at TH 2-4. Some kids have no idea about economics.

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Rushing at that low doesn't even hurt. It's not really until maybe TH8 that it starts becoming important. In fact, rushing to TH7 is probably a better choice than maxing TH6.

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Originally Posted by badfish1979

Rushing at that low doesn't even hurt. It's not really until maybe TH8 that it starts becoming important. In fact, rushing to TH7 is probably a better choice than maxing TH6.

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Rushing your Town Hall ahead of your mines and collectors DOES hurt, even at TH4. A little because they run out of elixir to upgrade mines to raise gold to upgrade the TH. A lot because they run out of elixir to be able to build an army that can make a decent attack, or to maintain a respectable donation rate.

My point is that it is the elixir collectors that really matter. Mines and storage will be consequentially required. Little else really matters. The kids need to learn to not rush their TH ahead of their elixir collectors, and the earlier they learn this the better. It is so obvious that it would be suitable to technically require. "You can't upgrade your TH to a level higher than your lowest elixir collector"

The worst case I had, the kid with TH9, and three elixir collectors levels 1, 2 and 3, having spent Christmas present money on gems, was miserable until he upgraded his elixir collectors. He simply couldn't play the game due to not having elixir. With all elixir collectors built and upgraded, at least he could play, even with a pathetic base. Others were not so bad, but similar. (Admittedly, they are all 10 years old)

WHo said people need to play the game by your rules?

No. Everyone should have their rights to rush their base whether you like it or not. If they rush, they rush. You know, some people rush just to get that X-Bow or AQ but that doesn't mean you force them to max their stuff up.

TH rushing isn´t unfair!

I often raided rushed TH´s which were 1-2 TH´s above me. I can get more loot by rading them, while they can get less loot by raiding me.

Because of the loot system it´s pretty fair.

If somebody has a TH 10 with lv 2 troops(really seen that in game!) he only could get about 2-3% of a TH 5 ressources, while another TH 5 can get 20% of the ressources.

A less extreme example: A pretty rushed TH 10 is raiding me(good TH 8 at the moment), he can get 10% of my ressources, I make a revenge and can get 30% of his resources!

So there is no problem with TH-rushing.

I love all those rushers, because that means, more loot for me!;)

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Originally Posted by George1971

Rushing your Town Hall ahead of your mines and collectors DOES hurt, even at TH4. A little because they run out of elixir to upgrade mines to raise gold to upgrade the TH. A lot because they run out of elixir to be able to build an army that can make a decent attack, or to maintain a respectable donation rate.

My point is that it is the elixir collectors that really matter. Mines and storage will be consequentially required. Little else really matters. The kids need to learn to not rush their TH ahead of their elixir collectors, and the earlier they learn this the better. It is so obvious that it would be suitable to technically require. "You can't upgrade your TH to a level higher than your lowest elixir collector"

The worst case I had, the kid with TH9, and three elixir collectors levels 1, 2 and 3, having spent Christmas present money on gems, was miserable until he upgraded his elixir collectors. He simply couldn't play the game due to not having elixir. With all elixir collectors built and upgraded, at least he could play, even with a pathetic base. Others were not so bad, but similar. (Admittedly, they are all 10 years old)

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I thought your forum name looked familiar. Whatever happened to that kid? He at least had bought his heroes, if I remember correctly, so he at least had a platform for raiding. And he only had like 2 or 3 builders, right? Did he end up sticking with it? Did he manage to fix that account? Does he still play?

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

People won't mind this idea if it's really horrible. Won't you read everything I posted? Yeah there are negatives, but the positives still exist. My idea don't have anything to do with myself though. It's for those who didn't know. And it's not putting a script in the game, just giving players a guide. People here are saying "WE NEED TH RUSHERS IN ORDER TO GROW"

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Not at all. The message has been that they should have the right to do what they want. You are suggesting controlling them on the basis that you think what you want them to is better than what they want to do. It does not matter if your way is better or not. The account belongs to them to do what they want with it. That's the part that has been going over your head that you don't even get what they argument was.

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

Hey! I'm a BSCS student and game development is very much related to me. So, I always have ideas. And this is a good suggestion. I call it Anti-Th Rushing. This means you can't upgrade your Town Hall until you fully upgraded all the other buildings, and troops. Just the same as you can't upgrade to level 5 Mortar if you're not Th7. (While the only requirement to upgrade TH is to upgrade your Gold Storage to reach the upgrade price) With this, it will be very challenging and the game will be much fair. Because TH Rushing really sucks and unfair, in a way that other players can unlock features without putting real effort, time, and patience. I know this feature will make other players quit but the good thing is that this prevent idiots and immature players in your game. If I'm a developer I would hate to see idiots playing my game so -- Thanks!

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no offence but this is one of the worst ideas that I've ever heard. It will prevent many YouTube series from coming out, destroy some superior upgrading patterns and make the game not even worth playing anymore.

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Originally Posted by Xitra

I thought your forum name looked familiar. Whatever happened to that kid? He at least had bought his heroes, if I remember correctly, so he at least had a platform for raiding. And he only had like 2 or 3 builders, right? Did he end up sticking with it? Did he manage to fix that account? Does he still play?

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Yes, he is still playing. He took some advice, and has upgraded three elixir collectors to level 10. So he has elixir to spend. Another three elixir collectors are still at level 2. He has roughly equal numbers of walls at levels 2, 3 and 4, and less walls at level 5 and 6. Defenses are mostly level 2-5. Has level 10 barracks, but only builds barcher armies. At least now that he can afford barcher armies, he no longer endlessly begs for strong clan castle troops.

I don't let this account in wars, because his base ranks highly, and he has very little skill.

He has two other accounts on other devices at very low level, and low Town Hall. When he is playing them, I let him in wars, because the bases match his skills. As I've said before, a few very weak players in the bottom five or so present no problem to winning wars. (Wars are won by the middle players following a strategy and top players playing well and winning)

He is not a serious player, but he is having fun.

Bad Idea...Im a RUSHER, that did so simply because im impatient. But i would be upset if i couldnt do it. Im just sitting at TH9 now tho, MAXING stuff out. Maybe a LVL requirement would be a more applicable idea, but still i dont see the point. SUPERCELL makes alot from us rushers anyway

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

Hey! I'm a BSCS student and game development is very much related to me. So, I always have ideas. And this is a good suggestion. I call it Anti-Th Rushing. This means you can't upgrade your Town Hall until you fully upgraded all the other buildings, and troops. Just the same as you can't upgrade to level 5 Mortar if you're not Th7. (While the only requirement to upgrade TH is to upgrade your Gold Storage to reach the upgrade price) With this, it will be very challenging and the game will be much fair. Because TH Rushing really sucks and unfair, in a way that other players can unlock features without putting real effort, time, and patience. I know this feature will make other players quit but the good thing is that this prevent idiots and immature players in your game. If I'm a developer I would hate to see idiots playing my game so -- Thanks!

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Agree with you... But not at all.

While i agree on your idea, i disagree that a player has to upgrade EVERYTHING.
In boom beach, you must be above a certain level to upgrade your headquarters (town hall in CoC theory).
I like this idea, and i would agree if it was on clash.

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Originally Posted by Trivian

TH rushing isn´t unfair!

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So there is no problem with TH-rushing.

I love all those rushers, because that means, more loot for me!;)

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Nothing wrong with rushing.

Except rushing with Gems, leaving your elixir collectors and mines behind, is lose-lose.

They can't build armies, and they don't provide loot.

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Originally Posted by SimonTheEpic

While i agree on your idea, i disagree that a player has to upgrade EVERYTHING.
In boom beach, you must be above a certain level to upgrade your headquarters (town hall in CoC theory).
I like this idea, and i would agree if it was on clash.

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Someone suggested something, it's like at least 50% maxed. I also like the Level requirement. :)

Okay guys this will be my final statement. It's time to leave this with supercell and anyone who wants to improve it. READ THE EDIT ON THE INITIAL POST.

This idea is a bad one. Everyone is free to play this game as he/she see fit. If supercell actually did this, I would stop playing.

Everybody do like he want.
If he upgrade is TW without upgrade is defense, troups or building, he can't be opérationnal on War, and his defenses are easy to break, so he lose lot of is defense against other so he lose ressources.

And if TH is to big, your earn less ressources and trophy so it's his how fault.

Let's player play like they want.

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Originally Posted by Disenchanted11

Okay guys this will be my final statement. It's time to leave this with supercell and anyone who wants to improve it. READ THE EDIT ON THE INITIAL POST.

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LOL, you can't post on a users forum and then say you want to leave it to SC. SC may never see this thing if guys don't keep bumping it. Even if they are all bumping it to say how terrible it was at least they are still doing that dfor you.


You edits were 'better' btw. They show that you are getting the concept of free choice. I personally do not agree with the implementation method you describe, don't think that is good design (overly complex). I think a simpler solution would be to pop up warnings to a person when they are upgrading a TH. The warning should include the ramifications of what they are doing, especially how it is going to factor them into war averages at a much higher level than the results they will actually deliver. (Why rushers are such liabilities to war clans)

Once caveat on giving warning - I have given sooooo many warnings to guys not to upgrade TH early. Some simply say 'but I want to' others start making up ridiculous justifications (yeah but I really need to put in a level 1 xbow so to make me almost impossible to 3 star or steal loot from). The bottom line is that once a guy gets all starry eyed for something new his ears close and warnings have very little effect.

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

LOL, you can't post on a users forum and then say you want to leave it to SC. SC may never see this thing if guys don't keep bumping it. Even if they are all bumping it to say how terrible it was at least they are still doing that dfor you.


You edits were 'better' btw. They show that you are getting the concept of free choice. I personally do not agree with the implementation method you describe, don't think that is good design (overly complex). I think a simpler solution would be to pop up warnings to a person when they are upgrading a TH. The warning should include the ramifications of what they are doing, especially how it is going to factor them into war averages at a much higher level than the results they will actually deliver. (Why rushers are such liabilities to war clans)

Once caveat on giving warning - I have given sooooo many warnings to guys not to upgrade TH early. Some simply say 'but I want to' others start making up ridiculous justifications (yeah but I really need to put in a level 1 xbow so to make me almost impossible to 3 star or steal loot from). The bottom line is that once a guy gets all starry eyed for something new his ears close and warnings have very little effect.

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I think the only thing worse than the original post is the edit. The option to rush or not rush currently exists. And every player remains in control, and doesn't have to wait a month to change their mind. The suggestions made in the edit are just plain silly.

Further, the OP suggests throughout this thread that he's trying to protect new players from rushing (like rushing is a permanent disease that cannot be undone and must be stopped immediately) because they don't know any better. However, the edit suggests a new player would log in for the first time and be asked if they'd like to rush or not....and we assume they will know better at the time they make that choice?

But we are all over-looking the fact that Supercell wants people to rush. People rush (because they are impatient) and they get frustrated cuz they can no longer defend their base. So they need it fixed ASAP (because they are impatient) and they look for the quickest fix they can find (because they are impatient). So they run to Walmart and buy a gift card and spend it on some gems (because they are impatient) and try to fix their base. And then they say, 'gemming makes this game so much easier.' And they do it some more.

I know the OP wants to force people to play 'the right way'....but there is no such thing. And why stop at TH rushing. Why not require players to bring full army camps on every raid, and make sure they only deploy certain army compositions (we all know 1 wall breaker and all healers won't get far - therefore Supercell should eliminate it as an option).

Overall, one of the worst threads on the forums. I should know, I keep posting on it ;)

Lol...anti-rush mode...AKA the I'm too stupid to play this game so I need to be told how to play it mode. There are strategy guides for that.

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Originally Posted by Reddigulous

But we are all over-looking the fact that Supercell wants people to rush. People rush (because they are impatient) and they get frustrated cuz they can no longer defend their base. So they need it fixed ASAP (because they are impatient) and they look for the quickest fix they can find (because they are impatient). So they run to Walmart and buy a gift card and spend it on some gems (because they are impatient) and try to fix their base. And then they say, 'gemming makes this game so much easier.' And they do it some more.

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I didn't overlook that. Just sayin'