Ruled out items

Well if I was trolling you, it worked.


It just amused me when you said people need to stop doing this thing that you readily admit they're not going to stop doing. Especially after I said people aren't going to read that stuff and explained how to make it so less ruled out ideas keep getting new threads.


And if there is no posting in the main forum area and you have to go into subfolders to see the threads, people won't have a choice, and the info will be right there in front of them. It may not get rid of these posts entirely, but it will reduce their number, fairly substantially I would guess.

Warren, you are so serious all the time. I was making a joke saying that they should swap out the title for a thread and have it perform a search instead for people under 50 posts. See, get what that does, noobs will THINK they are posting an awesome new idea, but instead, it will take them to a search. It's not like their is a lack of tools or they are hard to get to, its like dude is saying, they aren't going to use them... unless they are tricked or forced into using them.

Stomping out noobs in forums is like cutting off the head of a hydra.

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Originally Posted by awesomness2016

Well if I was trolling you, it worked.

It just amused me when you said people need to stop doing this thing that you readily admit they're not going to stop doing. Especially after I said people aren't going to read that stuff and explained how to make it so less ruled out ideas keep getting new threads.

And if there is no posting in the main forum area and you have to go into subfolders to see the threads, people won't have a choice, and the info will be right there in front of them. It may not get rid of these posts entirely, but it will reduce their number, fairly substantially I would guess.

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You are missing the subtly of what I'm saying, and also not actually reading the idea I'm proposing and again acting like you do know. Also, you aren't trolling, you are making yourself look like a fool.

You have to make them want to read it. Popups and restrictions via post count have been argued over and quickly found to not work. EULA popups are a good example why any popup that says "read these rules" will never work effectively. Also post count limits will either stifle newcomers or cause post spam as people say useless one line comments to get the count they need to post there 'awesome idea' that was likely ruled out before they have even heard of Clans of Clans.

The idea you seem to be ignoring is this...
The forum checks to see if you have made a thread on this forum before when you click the Create New Thread button. If not, you get redirected to an intro page with what's-her-name-village-helper narrating to you, welcoming to the forum, and explaining what needs to be explained before they post...

I'm not about to retype, again, the whole idea. The link to it is right there in my signiture for a reason.

Then again, it was quickly apparent that even 'advertising' stuff on a signiture doesn't work, because it is too much exposure, and gets mentally filtered out without people fully realizing it, because now it is expected background 'noise'. :facepalm: (seems like you just can't win...)

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Originally Posted by ShaneHed13

Warren, you are so serious all the time. I was making a joke saying that they should swap out the title for a thread and have it perform a search instead for people under 50 posts. See, get what that does, noobs will THINK they are posting an awesome new idea, but instead, it will take them to a search. It's not like their is a lack of tools or they are hard to get to, its like dude is saying, they aren't going to use them... unless they are tricked or forced into using them.

Stomping out noobs in forums is like cutting off the head of a hydra.

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Woops... :saywhat: Well... mistakes happen. XD

But it was similar to an idea I've seen, and being in a focused frame of mine, that's what first came up. Anyway, now I get the joke :facepalm:

As for the hydra reference, do remember, it was still killable... Just need to get a good fire going. :smirk:

Unfortunately, the amount of 'fire' this forum can muster seems barely hot enough to discolor paper. :rolleyes: Oh sure, there is flame wars and what not, but the drive to get stuff done is really lacking at times. And I hate that...

Before This even gets discussed; we first need to re-vamp the rules out ideas and update them. And actually put more bad ideas in there.

Some are great and they're just too complex. Others are dumb as rocks.

You let them them debate; GEM MINES PLS GUYS I WANT GEM MINES.
You get those post.

0% tolerance on ruled out ideas. Unless the idea being posted is about the section getting revamped

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

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You are missing the subtly of what I'm saying, and also not actually reading the idea I'm proposing and again acting like you do know. Also, you aren't trolling, you are making yourself look like a fool.

The forum checks to see if you have made a thread on this forum before when you click the Create New Thread button. If not, you get redirected to an intro page with what's-her-name-village-helper narrating to you, welcoming to the forum, and explaining what needs to be explained before they post...

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1) Too much programming involved. 2)It wouldn't stop people from skipping through it and STILL not reading the rules/stickies. 3) It's subtlety 4) A fool is in the eye of the beholder, I guess.

Also, I like Shane's idea. It's trollish.

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Originally Posted by awesomness2016

1) Too much programming involved. 2)It wouldn't stop people from skipping through it and STILL not reading the rules/stickies. 3) It's subtlety 4) A fool is in the eye of the beholder, I guess.

Also, I like Shane's idea. It's trollish.

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lol, ok, now I know you can't be serious.

1. You cite one of the easiest part of the whole thing as 'too much programing' when we are talking about giving suggestions to a game app develpor.
2. There is no 'OK' or 'Skip' button people are so used to seeing, so no thoughtless skipping. And it is not a sticky thread they are reading.
3. It still got the meaning across.
4. And, evidence speaks for itself. :smirk:

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

lol, ok, now I know you can't be serious.

1. You cite one of the easiest part of the whole thing as 'too much programing' when we are talking about giving suggestions to a game app develpor.
2. There is no 'OK' or 'Skip' button people are so used to seeing, so no thoughtless skipping. And it is not a sticky thread they are reading.
3. It still got the meaning across.
4. And, evidence speaks for itself. :smirk:

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Okay, too much programming for a forum. And I can thoughtlessly skip through the entire intro to CoC, so I'm not sure why I'd read what you're asking, or read the rules/ruled out threads before posting after I'm done. I suppose it would make some noobs decide its not worth the effort to post, but that's about it.

What I'm suggesting is organizing the forum in a way that people will naturally go to the area they want to post an idea/suggestion about, and then if their idea is an oft repeated ruled out one, they will immediately see a sticky at the top of the page on the subject they were going to post about, possibly with RULED OUT next to it, and will be drawn to that. This is going to be your best bet for eliminating duplicate posts in general, but especially the ruled out ones. Unless you go with Shane's idea, I guess.

You are presented with choices that actually require thought before picking. Blindly picking one will frustrate someone that has no patience, and already we don't need that kind of a person posting. (Sorry, but how organized will the idea be if you have no patience? :()

Someone wanting to post an idea, seeing a purpose writen intro page saying it wants to help you get your idea in, or see if others have said the same thing, or able to tell you right then and there if it will be considered or not; I would think most people would entertain the idea of following the page's instructions.

There isn't going to be a huge organization tree using subforums. It is going to be an uphill battle as it is to just have the Mods make one more additional subforum. One subforum I really want them to make is a partly restriced Commonly Suggested subforum. A mod grabs an ideal thread of a set topic, or makes thier own, and puts it that subforum. The Commonly Suggested subform will allow people to post on the threads there, but will not be able to make new threads. This way, the mods have some control over the talking points of the forum, and any duplicate threads in this forum can just be deleted.

Also, I don't know how you can get new people to follow some intuitive path to a proper subforum, not without changing the forum style it self, and layout, to catch thier eye so they will see where they need to go. Let alone read sticky thread titles.

If anything, what you are asking for is partly along the same lines as to what I want my intro page to do, be an intuitive set of paths to take them where they need to go. It is just that those paths I suggested are the ruled out list, the search function, and finally the New Thread page. Heck, your idea can even fit inside the intro page, which could have a much cleaner, and more purpose build layout to get newbies to intuitively go to the right spot.

So why are even still arguing here?

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

You are presented with choices that actually require thought before picking. Blindly picking one will frustrate someone that has no patience, and already we don't need that kind of a person posting. (Sorry, but how organized will the idea be if you have no patience? :()

Someone wanting to post an idea, seeing a purpose writen intro page saying it wants to help you get your idea in, or see if others have said the same thing, or able to tell you right then and there if it will be considered or not; I would think most people would entertain the idea of following the page's instructions.

There isn't going to be a huge organization tree using subforums. It is going to be an uphill battle as it is to just have the Mods make one more additional subforum. One subforum I really want them to make is a partly restriced Commonly Suggested subforum. A mod grabs an ideal thread of a set topic, or makes thier own, and puts it that subforum. The Commonly Suggested subform will allow people to post on the threads there, but will not be able to make new threads. This way, the mods have some control over the talking points of the forum, and any duplicate threads in this forum can just be deleted.

Also, I don't know how you can get new people to follow some intuitive path to a proper subforum, not without changing the forum style it self, and layout, to catch thier eye so they will see where they need to go. Let alone read sticky thread titles.

If anything, what you are asking for is partly along the same lines as to what I want my intro page to do, be an intuitive set of paths to take them where they need to go. It is just that those paths I suggested are the ruled out list, the search function, and finally the New Thread page. Heck, your idea can even fit inside the intro page, which could have a much cleaner, and more purpose build layout to get newbies to intuitively go to the right spot.

So why are even still arguing here?

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Sne dme links to your ideas in a Pm.

This thread has gotten a bit off kilter. I have started another one geared for exactly this discussion and would add your ideas to it.

lets try not to let the new one degenerate into any defensive bickering. that has happened on this one is why I start the new.

wait a minute....

so you're telling me Supercell can't be bothered to create a forum that is somewhat more organized, but they're going to create some interactive forum guide for noobs?

who is trolling who here?!