Ruled out items

It is hard for most adults to stop and spend time attempting to think about the big picture, or think about secondary effects of what they want, let alone teenagers (sorry guys, but it's true; been there, done that, thankfully I didn't do anything too stupid back then as one). It is just not something most regularly have to do.

Granted, people come here for selfish reasons, but many do want to improve the game. 'Improve it' more in thier favor or to thier liking, but still more or less improve things. Most follow rules if they knew or remembered them, and most feel bad for breaking them.

Sometimes the copping reaction for 'thier' idea being shot down could use some adjustment :smirk:. As I said before, may ideas are just going to get killed off, like so many barbarians raiding a village, so don't get too attached to them. Some people do get too attached, and fell every hit against gje idea as a hit against them as a person, which (most times :rolleyes:) that isn't the case here.

It sounds like the forum mostly needs more active moderators deleting ruled out threads (and notifying posters?).


OR it just needs to be better organized with sub-categories and titled threads so people see their ideas right off the bat, even if they are ruled out. This way, instead of posting a duplicate thread, they'll have a place to read why their idea is ruled out and perhaps express their opinion.


For example, you have a subfolder for "Resource Related Suggestions" or similar, and sticky posts entitled things like Donating Resources to Clanmates, Resource Conversion Building, and DE Zapping...perhaps with RULED OUT in the title at the end as well...


Then, instead getting a new thread on this every day because the vast majority of new members are too lazy to search or read the ruled out stickies, anyone with one of these new and brilliant suggestions, or who just wants to vent, would only have to go to the right subsection (which assuming the subsections are named well is not hard to get people to do...they want their post to appear in the right place), where they would immediately see a thread titled with their idea/issues. Then instead of creating a new thread, most will post in the sticky, if at all.


You want to reduce duplicate posts and stop wasting time explaining old arguments to new members so frequently, that's how you do it.

I think it would be beneficial if the ruled out items had posts to or the specific reasoning for why the things are ruled out. When I (personally) look through the ruled out items list, I see several things that are (at face value) simple things that don't have any negative side (that I can gather) but are still considered ruled out. I think a link to the thread that best explains it, or with the SC moderator explanation.

Even with my in depth knowledge of the search function, with many of the topics, they have been tread on so many times, it's damn near impossible to find a solid thread with discussion (instead of useless babble) to explain the situation.

What is needed is newbies to stop ignoring the rules thread. Either they are new to the whole forum system, and just can't mentally filter out all the new stuff they see, missing the Read Before Posting thread, or it is people that have been on forums before, and assume they know the rules. They are half right, they know most of the common rules, but still don't know the important ones.

They are not going to be likely to use the sub forum system too well, or close to it's purpose or potential, until they know what is expected of them.

Catching them as they try to make a new post is about the best way to nip the problem in the bud. That ideas is linked in my signiture.

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

What is needed is newbies to stop ignoring the rules thread.

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Lol you must be new here, or not have a clue about human behavior. This is NOT going to happen. You need to assume that most new posters are not going to read the rules or ruled out ideas or look for duplicate threads, and plan accordingly.

With a little creative web-programming, they can swap the "Title" section on new threads with the search function... lets say to anyone with 50 or less posts.

Boom Roasted

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Originally Posted by awesomness2016

Lol you must be new here, or not have a clue about human behavior. This is NOT going to happen. You need to assume that most new posters are not going to read the rules or ruled out ideas or look for duplicate threads, and plan accordingly.

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Are you a troll? You sure do act like one.

If not, I really feel sorry for you.

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Originally Posted by ShaneHed13

With a little creative web-programming, they can swap the "Title" section on new threads with the search function... lets say to anyone with 50 or less posts.

Boom Roasted

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The Similar Threads list does most of the operations for this already. The forum auto searches the forum, likely via title, and gives a top five. Just redirect the input, change the interface a bit, and set some triggers to do a redirect if it meets a requirment. I think this idea was already suggested in the idea thread I have linked in my signiture.

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

Are you a troll? You sure do act like one.

If not, I really feel sorry for you.

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Of a sort, but I'm serious. The offenders we're speaking of obviously don't read the rules or search similar threads or look at the ruled out ideas. If they did we wouldn't have this problem. And they're not going to magically change just because we want them to.

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Originally Posted by awesomness2016

Of a sort, but I'm serious. The offenders we're speaking of obviously don't read the rules or search similar threads or look at the ruled out ideas. If they did we wouldn't have this problem. And they're not going to magically change just because we want them to.

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And... you have not only insulted my intelligence, displayed the fact you don't know a thing about me, but also wasted my time by telling me something I already know.

Here, this is one response, of many, I've made to people with ideas that don't work; the same people you are confusing me with.

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

No one reads the E.U.L.A. So why do we expect newbies to read the sticky threads?
Proof That (Almost) No One Reads End User License Agreements
10 Ridiculous EULA Clauses That You May Have Already Agreed To
It Pays To Read License Agreements
I think I've proven my point. :smirk:

Check my signature link on an idea that could help with getting newbies to read what they need to.

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I am very much aware of human behavior. I've even said many key concepts in psychology here. So to have you think I'm some noob, with the post count I have, with 90%+ of said posts done in this subforum, and getting support for much of my later ideas because they are far from being ruled out ideas, makes me thing you are mainly a troll. If not, my next guess isn't any more flattering an assessment.

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Originally Posted by BlahBlah161616

I think that ruled out ideas should not be reconsidered.

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Well it comes down to the idea. There are a few that should be reconsidered, one good example is being able to directly link a main clan to its feeders.