Disable kicking/booting of members during war battle

​Hear this :
You shout out to join a clan, They'll ask you if you are loyal or if you'll stay with a clan.
You follow their war rules :thumbsup:, You donate:cool:, You get 3 stars in you attacks XD.
In totality you have contributed a whole lot to the clan :thumbsup::thumbsup:.
The next day, you check out the war for updates and to use your 2nd attack, just to find out you've been kicked/boot. :mad:

Now, what happens to your loots, to the troops donated and Elixer spent for war troops.
YOU GET NOTHING.

no questions asked, no explanation, you wont be able to join back because of being banned.
By the time you get unbanned, the war would have ended.

by disabling the kick/boot feature during war battle :
Leaders/Co-Leaders wont be able to abuse their power over the members.
** if they want to kick a member out for violating rules or other issues they may do so AFTER the war.
The members will have the proper loots due to them for attacking in war.
** equal loots for all!
Leaders/Co-leaders will still have time to address their concerns with their members
** atleast give them a chance, especially when they've contributed to the clan.

Give this Idea a chance.
Comments against this Idea are welcome.


The war is against the other Clan, not with your members.

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Hear this :
You shout out to join a clan, They'll ask you if you are loyal or if you'll stay with a clan.
You follow their war rules :thumbsup:, You donate:cool:, You get 3 stars in you attacks XD.
In totality you have contributed a whole lot to the clan :thumbsup::thumbsup:.
The next day, you check out the war for updates and to use your 2nd attack, just to find out you've been kicked/boot. :mad:

Now, what happens to your loots, to the troops donated and Elixer spent for war troops.
YOU GET NOTHING.

no questions asked, no explanation, you wont be able to join back because of being banned.
By the time you get unbanned, the war would have ended.

by disabling the kick/boot feature during war battle :
Leaders/Co-Leaders wont be able to abuse their power over the members.
** if they want to kick a member out for violating rules or other issues they may do so AFTER the war.
The members will have the proper loots due to them for attacking in war.
** equal loots for all!
Leaders/Co-leaders will still have time to address their concerns with their members
** atleast give them a chance, especially when they've contributed to the clan.

Give this Idea a chance.
Comments against this Idea are welcome.


The war is against the other Clan, not with your members.

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this should have been don when the game was started now i was kicked because i attacked a th 9 in war who was higher in place and i got 44% but then also i got kicked

It depends on the reason why you were booted, did you attack a base that was an easy three stars, well below your belt, thus preventing others from attacking. You may have donated lots but did you donate the right or wrong troops.

If this were to be implemented a real trouble maker who keeps on donating false troops to clan requests and thus f'ing up all attacks for the clan would be imune to being booted.

Leaders and Co's have the power to run a clan the way they see fit - this should not be changed.

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Originally Posted by ironagedave

It depends on the reason why you were booted, did you attack a base that was an easy three stars, well below your belt, thus preventing others from attacking. You may have donated lots but did you donate the right or wrong troops.

If this were to be implemented a real trouble maker who keeps on donating false troops to clan requests and thus f'ing up all attacks for the clan would be imune to being booted.

Leaders and Co's have the power to run a clan the way they see fit - this should not be changed.

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No, I followed all their rules, We attack the base with the same number as us.
This would benefit all members who do right while their leaders or co leaders wrong them by kicking them out in the middle of the war with out the proper reason or valid violation of their rules.

again, the KICK will just be Disabled during the WAR BATTLE DAY, they could still kick ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s out the clan during Preparation day and after the war.

This is not taking the right of the leader to kick the violating members but preventing wrong leaders for ever making a clan. such as the one I've been before.

Trouble makers as you say that will keep donating the wrong troops, could be easily identified even before a clan war starts.

thanks for the feedback.

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Originally Posted by PSP31440

this should have been don when the game was started now i was kicked because i attacked a th 9 in war who was higher in place and i got 44% but then also i got kicked

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In their defense, they were right to kick you if you didn't follow their rules.

Leaving the clan needs to be disabled on prep day

For the OP, there should be no when it should be impossible to boot people below your own rank. If this is being abused it is a problem with the clan leadership. Bad leaders lead badly. It's what they do.

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Originally Posted by Osirus

Leaving the clan needs to be disabled on prep day

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Specifically to this counter-idea . . . NO. Here is pretty much everything you need to know about dealing with hoppers. Both what will happen if you get your way and how everybody else has learned to deal with 99% of them quickly and easily.

First, SC has a long standing policy of not putting a negative statistic/badge/mark/rank/etc. of any kind on any players profile. They have a fairly strict no name-n-shame policy, as they should. You can accept those ideas as ruled out at face value.

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Originally Posted by iceageg

You need to remember who you are complaining about here. Either the player leaving is leaving because you have a poor clan and/or poor leadership, or they are leaving because they have questionable moral integrity. For the sake of argument lets assume you are a wise and effective leader, so this must be one of those d-bags that hangs you out to dry. If you get your way and players are forced to stay or penalized for leaving . . . <fade to foreshadowed scene>

1) D-bag joins
2) You start war
3) D-bag wants to leave but can't (SUCCESS!!! He is stuck with you now!!!)
4) D-bag is a d-bag and wants out, so he decides to get kicked out
5) So he fills war castles with goblins and wallbreakers
6) And fills donations with goblins and wall breakers
7) And turns your clan chat into something that makes global look like bible study
8) And defames your clan on global
9) Then wastes both attacks in the war anyway
9a) Set their base up so it is super easy to 3*
10) And continues to fill war requests with ♥♥♥♥ troops
11) Maybe even comes to the forums to badmouth you and your clan
12) You kick them out
or
12) Your other clan members leave because you won't kick out the D-bag

Remember, this is already a person who doesn't care if they hurt your clan. Long story short, you are requesting a way to force people who don't want to be in your clan, who you don't even want in your clan, to be stuck in your clan. NOTHING good can come of this. Bad idea every time it is suggested.

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Also, in an effort to not only help the OP understand the horrible repercussions of their idea, here is a list of many of the most common things successful clans do to prevent "D-bag hoppers" from being a nuisance (a nuisance, not a problem). Quoting myself from a recent thread again . . .

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Originally Posted by iceageg

Most people who switch between clans do it for very good, fruitful reasons. Since the game can't tell these players from your much maligned "hoppers" the majority of us would end up penalized because a few players who didn't want to be in your clan but you let in anyway. The truly nefarious hoppers are usually very easy to spot and deal with. Players who are genuinely searching for a clan are simply part of the game, just like people searching for the right job are a part of real life. What you have hear is a clan management problem. One all of us have experienced and learned from. It has been discussed on the forum many times. Here's how most of us have solved this.

1) Set the clan to invite only.
2) Don't give elder to anybody who can't conduct themselves as an adult
3) Don't give Co-leader to anybody you don't trust
4) Make sure both elders and Co's understand that it is ok to accept new members
5) Make sure they understand they are expected to BOOT new members if
5a) They introduce themselves by asking for troops
5b) Introduce themselves with profanity
5c) Introduce themselves with some form of "rate my base!!!!"
5d) Don't respond when welcomed
5e) Ask for elder/Co in the first conversation
5f) Start filling castles with ♥♥♥♥
6) Clan rule that new members don't participate in the first war (Opted out by leader/co)
7) Only recruit 1-2 new players between each war, none during

Others may chime in with additional ideas but those are the basic ones. Follow those and hoppers will end 99% instantly. Not to mention you will crack a smile when you apply your boots to their crack.

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All of us clan leader types have experienced this and learned to preventing through our own leadership skills and clan rules. There is no need to institute a system that will punish the most social and giving players while making the lowest quality players more destructive.

In my time on the forum here I still have yet to see the answer to these simple questions. Why do you want to force somebody that you don't want in your clan, to be stuck in your clan?

The way it works now is fine. Nothing needs to be changed to accommodate these guys.

I can't help but to have a hunch that OP and first poster have more to their stories than they are giving here if they are having ongoing problems with getting kicked during wars. But if I am wrong and these guys are in fact the perfect members for any war clan then it is the leader that hurt his own self with those actions and these guys should be happy to be free and on their way from such a leader.

No Way. You have to be able to kick someone any time. No Exceptions. We have had people in the clan that donate garbage while we are in a war. They dont seem to care. To have that person for the whole war would kill us.

Also - If someone is not following the war rules they need booting now, not later.

No way Super Cell implements this stupid suggestion.

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Originally Posted by Tsunderaine

No, I followed all their rules, We attack the base with the same number as us.
This would benefit all members who do right while their leaders or co leaders wrong them by kicking them out in the middle of the war with out the proper reason or valid violation of their rules.

again, the KICK will just be Disabled during the WAR BATTLE DAY, they could still kick ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s out the clan during Preparation day and after the war.

This is not taking the right of the leader to kick the violating members but preventing wrong leaders for ever making a clan. such as the one I've been before.

Trouble makers as you say that will keep donating the wrong troops, could be easily identified even before a clan war starts.

thanks for the feedback.

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Like I said this could affect the war itself regarding donations not just prep day.

I.e. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ donates wrong troops during battle day and can't be kicked, thus ruining request after request after request.
If spying is considered an issue now, this idea would lead to new problems; a saboteur or series of saboteurs who is/are imune to being kicked out during battle day.

If you have done nothing wrong you are better off out of that clan, maybe the clan got randomly hijacked, which is unfortuante but again this is an indication of how bad the clan actually is. It's a small price to pay but a worthy one.