the defeated clan should less xp in clash

Woah, woah, woah. To the dude who said losers should get negative xp. What?! That is rediculous. Especially with the matchmaking blunders this game throws at us. All that would do is make the titans of war rise in clan levels, getting all these perks that they don't necessarily need, while the not so great guys (my clan) stay at level 1 forever and get no oerks to help them and that makes it even more impossible for them to get a win. Like I said, we aren't the best clan, but we try, and shouldn't that deserve xp? The loot bonus is already low enough if you lose. I don't think losers should get punished more. It would totally drive people away from clan wars, which is the opposite of what SC wants.

OP might want to reexamine what the reason for Clan XP (experience) is. :rolleyes:

The loser already is out the XP for winning, which is a sizable amount of XP as it is.

Remember, we just had a 2x Clan XP event. Any lingering effects of it will last for those wars that were started while the event was active, which means 2 days after the event ended, there will be no more active wars giving double XP rewards.

There is a well made sticky thread in the Clan Wars forum about Clan Perks and Clan XP. It will show just how easy, or hard, it will be for people to level up thier clan.
Full information on Clan Levels and Perks

the clan exp is to encourage clans to war, not to reward the winning clans, clans that do not war now have a reason too, its to get everyone involved in the fun and excitement of clan wars, the double exp week has been great fun for my clan, not so much fun for those fighting us, but they got a sizeable amount of exp for their efforts, are you saying they should get less because they came up against a very organised war clan?

no sorry they fought they lost and they deserve what they earned, clan levels are there for established clans, it is in effect a way of separating the wheat from the chaff

it may not make any sense now but a few months down the line when you get kids that wanna start their own clan it will be level 1, the clans that are already level 10 will be known to be active. war is not the only reason to be in a clan, i think this will go along way in helping clan hoppers as the higher level clans will be able to keep players better

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Originally Posted by edomingox

Don't like it. It rewards bad clans just for warring a lot. In my opinion, we shouldn't even get a loot bonus for losing. As it is now, even if my clan loses, I break even because of the loot bonus.

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that would kill clan wars, how many would you lose before you gave up warring altogether, the loot is to make up for the troops u used to attack, no loot means you just wasted resources on two attacks that brought you nothing, thats crazy they may as well not war at all, bad clans? what the hell does that mean? a clan that loses is a bad clan?

you sir are talking ****

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Originally Posted by edomingox

Don't like it. It rewards bad clans just for warring a lot. In my opinion, we shouldn't even get a loot bonus for losing. As it is now, even if my clan loses, I break even because of the loot bonus.

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You must be relatively low then. A TH8 making all dragon armies will not make back their elixir even if they win.



If I make GoWiwi at TH9, 2 armies are going to cost me about 5000 DE, and that's if someone gives me a golem for each battle, and without any donations to offensive or defensive clan castles. If we win, I make maybe 4000.


If Supercell were to drop the loot bonus for losing, they would HAVE to significantly decrease the amount for winning as well, and significantly increase the amount of loot available when you actually attack a base. Otherwise war simply wouldn't be worth the risk.



As others have said, the XP is much more about participation than winning. You DO get more for winning, to the point where a 35 member clan that wins gets more XP than a 50 member clan that loses. The penalty for losing comes on the loot bonus and war record, not so much the XP.

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Originally Posted by charizzle

Woah, woah, woah. To the dude who said losers should get negative xp. What?! That is rediculous. Especially with the matchmaking blunders this game throws at us. All that would do is make the titans of war rise in clan levels, getting all these perks that they don't necessarily need, while the not so great guys (my clan) stay at level 1 forever and get no oerks to help them and that makes it even more impossible for them to get a win. Like I said, we aren't the best clan, but we try, and shouldn't that deserve xp? The loot bonus is already low enough if you lose. I don't think losers should get punished more. It would totally drive people away from clan wars, which is the opposite of what SC wants.

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"To the dude who said losers should get negative xp."

Losing the war should reduce the XP gained from base wins, because XP is too cheap for mere participation and one star wins. However, the final XP should be go negative, no.

The clan XP system is too heavily biased to clans that are old, biased against clans that are new but good.

A clan that repeatedly loses should not be making XP increments so easily.

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Originally Posted by awesomness2016

You must be relatively low then. A TH8 making all dragon armies will not make back their elixir even if they win.



If I make GoWiwi at TH9, 2 armies are going to cost me about 5000 DE, and that's if someone gives me a golem for each battle, and without any donations to offensive or defensive clan castles. If we win, I make maybe 4000.


If Supercell were to drop the loot bonus for losing, they would HAVE to significantly decrease the amount for winning as well, and significantly increase the amount of loot available when you actually attack a base. Otherwise war simply wouldn't be worth the risk.



As others have said, the XP is much more about participation than winning. You DO get more for winning, to the point where a 35 member clan that wins gets more XP than a 50 member clan that loses. The penalty for losing comes on the loot bonus and war record, not so much the XP.

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>If Supercell were to drop the loot bonus for losing, they would HAVE to significantly decrease the amount for winning as well, and significantly increase the amount of loot available when you actually attack a base. Otherwise war simply wouldn't be worth the risk.

Agree. There should be more loot for winning. Winning should more than pay for a good army, although not necessarily two all dragon armies. (On dragons, I am wondering whether dragons should take up more housing space, assuming level 4 dragons are improved)

There is a reason why there is an Exclusive exp for winning clan.
So that they will get more exp than the losing clan