The Knight - NEW Dark Troop!

↓ Credit to AnthonyVince for making this picture ↓

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http://i.imgur.com/xFytXcz.jpg

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Originally Posted by Nicktheflick

I love this idea #NextVolcanoMage

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:smirk::smirk::smirk:

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This mighty warrior's shiny armour reflects damage done to it, right back on to its enemies!

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Well I think I should first thank a few people. These guys helped me make this troop work :):

jonnguy2014
icey567
AnthonyVince
Jamesf01
NuclearKiller42

And, surprisingly, 3 people on global who helped me with the stats. No seriously :smirk::

crush - LEANGDRY BOYS 3
saint john - the ballers
IrishDumplin - InvisibleEmpire

NOTE: The global people have given me permission to mention them here

NOTE2: Clans are as of April 8 2015

OK then, so let's get started on the troop:

The Knight

Alternative Names: Mirror Knight (Antdroid)

Sound OP? Well I've tried to balance it with the stats :thumbsup:

Stats

Level	DPS	HP	Reflection (%)	Cost (DE)	Upgrade Cost	Upgrade Time	Laboratory Level Required
1	90	1200	25	400	N/A	N/A	N/A
2	100	1300	30	450	80,000	12 Days	8
3	120	1500	35	550	100,000	14 Days	8

Constant stats:

Favourite Target	Attack Type	Attack Targets	Housing Space	Training Time	Movement Speed	Attack Rate	Range	Dark Barracks Level Required
Defences (also does 2x Damage and Reflection to Xbows)	Single Target (and Reflection)	Ground (Reflection works on air too)	20	30 minutes	16	2 seconds	0.6 tiles	7

This troop will be unlocked in Dark Barracks Level 7, which will cost 4,250,000 elixir and 10 days to upgrade.

Core Idea

Now, you may be thinking, what is this "Reflection"?

Well, that is this troop's special ability!

When attacked by a defence/enemy troop, this troop inflicts some of the damage on the defence, reducing the damage it takes too! Example:

Mortar attacks troop with 100 damage (100 to make calculations easier)

Mortar loses x% of 100, suppose it's 10% = 10 HP

Troop loses 100-x% of 100 = 90 HP

Now, you may be thinking, what if there are 10 of these all bunched up, and a mortar (or any splash defence/troop) does 100 damage to all of them in one shot? Does the mortar lose 100 HP?! The answer is yes, the mortar loses 10 HP from each Knight, so in this case, 100 HP.

NOTE: Because the Knight's shield is made of metal, it cannot reflect the lightning bolts of a Hidden Tesla! It also cannot reflect the damage of a bomb (for obvious reasons) so it takes the full damage of these traps!

Graphics

Appearance Changes

✔At Level 1, this troop looks similar to the picture at the top of this thread. The only difference is that instead of holding that axe thing, it will hold a sword and shield.

✔At Level 2, the Knight's red thing on its helmet will be red, orange and yellow, the colours of fire. Also, his shield will be a darker shade of grey.

✔At Level 3, the Knight's armour will become a darker shade of grey, and his shield will be black. His eyes will glow red.

✔Artwork would be greatly appreciated!

Strategies

Now let's see how this troop will affect the game.

Attacking Strategies

✔Never send in only one of this troop! One Knight cannot take out a defence on it's own; send it two or three together to share out the damage and reflect more damage!

✔Don't tank this troop - make this troop the tank! Always send in this troop first; remember, we want the troop to get attacked, we want to utilise the Reflection.

✔Send in this troop backed with a Healer/Heal Spell and optionally, an Evergreen Spell (if it is added); giving the troop more HP means more HP there to be reflected.

✔Use the Knight with other troops that can attack multiple buildings at once, such as Valkyries and Volcano Mages (if they are added).

✔Remember that raging this troop will NOT increase its reflection percentage!

✔Look out for Bomb and Tesla placements; these traps drain the HP of a Knight without letting it use its Reflection!

✔When an Inferno Tower or Xbow attacks the Knight, use the Inferno Spell or Drought Spell (if the two spells are added)to utilise the big Reflection!

Army Compositions

✔KnBarch (Knights + Barbarians + Archers) - FARM - Send in one or two Knights, with 40-50 Barbarians and Archers behind them, and do the same on another side. Send in your heroes and you could even get the town hall!

✔GoWiKn (Golems + Wizards/Witches + Knights) (pronounced GoWin) - WAR - Very similar to the GoWiPe attack, except you have Knights rather than Pekkas! The Knights help the Golems by weakening the defences, so Golems can finish them off easily. Wizards/Witches and Heroes do the rest!

✔KnArch (Knights + Archers) - FARM - Same as KnBarch but with 80-100 Archers instead of 40-50 Barbarians and Archers.

✔KnHoWi (Knights + Hog Riders + Wizards) - WAR - As the Hog Riders rush ahead to attack defences rub inside the base, the Knights can attack the same defences as the Hog Riders with their Reflection!

✔Mirror Mage Rush (Volcano Mages + Knights) - WAR - I'm sure you would have heard of the Volcano Mage :smirk:. Well it works quite well with Knights! The Knight will act as an up-front unit and a tank for the Volcano Mages. The Volcano Mages will also help the Knight's reflection ability and its immense damage by increasing the damage taken by multiple buildings!

✔Add Healers to any of these armies to make the attack even more powerful!

Defensive Strategies

✔Well keep your splash damage centralised! That's the main point, really. Let your point defences take these troops out.

✔Utilise your traps! Knights can't reflect damage onto Bombs and Giant Bombs! Waste their HP by blowing them up!

✔Cleverly place your Hidden Teslas too! Knights cannot reflect the damage of a Hidden Tesla; drain their HP with the Hidden Tesla's powerful bolts of electricity!

Defending From The Clan Castle

✔This troop is very good in defence. Most troops that attack it die of reflection after a few hits.

✔To kill this troop, NEVER use wizards, archers, goblins or hog riders. The best troop to counter the knight is the Valkyrie, but barbarians would do too. This is because of their DPS:HP ratio.

✔Use a Poison or Lightning Spell! The Knight cannot reflect damage onto spells, and Poison Spells do extra damage to Knights!

Commercial Idea

SCENE: Battle going on, army with range of troops running towards a base. A Knight is running towards a base. He looks back and sees a Healer healing him. The healing ray bounces back to the Healer and they both nod.

Knight: ONWARDS!

The army keeps running, shouting war cries.

An Archer Tower sees the Knight and an Archer shoots an arrow at him. He catches it and throws it back, and the Archer Tower collapses.

An Inferno Tower fires its fire bolt at the Knight, but the Knight reflects it with his shield, and it hits the Inferno's "head", which blows up.

An Xbow fires many arrows at the Knight, all of which bounce off him and get shot back on to the Xbow, eventually blowing it up.

In a Wizard Tower, the Wizard's jaw drops (not literally).

You and This Army screen comes up.

Trivia

✔ The Knight's shiny armour represents its Reflection ability.
✔A maximum of 11 Knights can fit in a set of maxed army camps, increasing to 12 if you count the 1 that can fit in a maxed Clan Castle.
✔A rage spell will increase the Knight's DPS, but not its reflection percentage.

And now for the:

FAQ

Why is this a ground troop?
Well, the main thing I had to see while making the stats of this troop was the various defences' DPS:HP ratio. Air defences have a very high DPS compared to their HP, and would have both demolished the troop, and also would have been wrecked by the Reflection.

Why the Knight?
Well the original name was the Mirror (suggested by jonnguy2014). But that was a bit unrealistic, so in the end we decided to have a knight, with "mirror-like" armour:)

Isn't this just a P.E.K.K.A.?
No. No it's not. It has a lower HP and a lower DPS, and it has reflection.

What if there are no defences left?
When there are no defences still alive, the Knight cannot reflect any damage. But don't worry! The Knight still has some DPS, to attack buildings on it's own.

FEEDBACK

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Originally Posted by Buttermink

Not too bad Smasher. This actually is not a half bad idea.

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Originally Posted by jeycoal

I really like this idea! I love how it makes healers revelant again. Overall great idea, I hope Supercell thinks so too! :D

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Originally Posted by Jamesf01

I think that it looks pretty good now. The Damage and the Health isn't too bad and the Special Ability makes it really Unique and different.

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Originally Posted by Lukmin1999

Really smart idea. The special ability is really cool too.

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Originally Posted by Shadowkungfu

I like the idea, reminds me of the Hades Armor item in Heroes of Order and Chaos.

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Originally Posted by TheForgottenSoul

I voted Yes, I would very much like this troop in the game.

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Here is how you can help! I'd love to hear your comments, opinions, suggestions, and questions as I can always improve upon this idea. Here are some things that would be great to comment on:

✔ Suggestions to make this troop more balanced
✔ Ideas you have for strategies this could enable
✔ Ideas you have for setting up your base to defend from this unit
✔ Description suggestions
✔ Questions about how this troop works
✔ Explain why you don't like this troop, or even why you do

Well I hope you liked this troop idea, as I've been working at it for at least a week! If you like the idea, be sure to reply! Well reply anyway :smirk:

Thanks!

Updates:

13 Apr
✔HP Buff
✔Added why it's called "The Knight"

14 Apr
✔Balancing
✔HP and DPS Boost
✔Decreased reflection %

15 Apr
✔DPS Boost

16 Apr
✔Reflection nerf

17 Apr
✔HP boost

18 Apr
✔Decreased Housing Space
✔HP and Housing Space halved
✔HP increased again :smirk:

19 Apr
✔HP decreased (:smirk:) and Reflection increased

20 Apr
✔Reflection nerf

21 Apr
✔Reflection buff

22 Apr
✔Reflection nerf:smirk:

23 Apr
✔HP boost

24 Apr
✔DPS nerf
✔Reflection buff

25 Apr
✔DPS boost
✔Added Trivia Section

8 May
✔Decreased Reflection %
✔Removed splash damage handicap

13 May
✔Increased Reflection %

16 Jun
✔Improved how the thread looks (inspired by AnthonyVince's Volcano Mage Thread)
✔Added more detail to strategies

21 Jun
✔Added reflection of healing

23 Jun
✔Decreased Speed and Range
✔Increased Housing Space and Training Time
✔Added 3x damage to Xbows
✔Increased Speed
✔Changed Xbow damage to 2x
✔Increased Reflection % and decreased DPS

30 Jun
✔Added appearance descriptions
✔Added an advert idea
✔Added an army composition featuring AnthonyVince's Volcano Mage

1 Jul
✔Teslas are now not affected by Reflection

20 Jul
✔Increased housing space to 21

23 Jul
✔Decreased HP

26 Jul
✔Poison Spells do 2× damage

21 Aug
✔Troop takes less damage (% based)
✔Level 3 Training Cost increased
✔Upgrade Costs increased at all levels
✔HP decreased at all levels
✔Housing Space decreased to 20
✔Poison Spells no longer do 2x damage

One thing I don't get is how can a troop have certain amounts of damage if it just reflects damage back that it took from the defense? Wouldn't it be the same amount as it took from the defense?

And this kind of idea has actually been suggested before :) but it's not a bad idea.

Not too bad Smasher. This actually is not a half bad idea.

The whole splash damage thing relative to the actual damage done to the troop may need some work but this is pretty good. I think this troop would need about 1500 to 2000 hitpoints or else it wouldn't really be useful and people would just use golems since they only take 5 more space than this. Either give it a health boost or lower camp space

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

One thing I don't get is how can a troop have certain amounts of damage if it just reflects damage back that it took from the defense? Wouldn't it be the same amount as it took from the defense?

And this kind of idea has actually been suggested before :) but it's not a bad idea.

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The small damage is because otherwise, how can the knight attack non-defences?

Oh its been suggested? Well even if it has, I haven't seen it in a loooong time, and also I doubt its been suggested in this detail:smirk:

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Originally Posted by Buttermink

Not too bad Smasher. This actually is not a half bad idea.

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Thanks butter!

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Originally Posted by GabeL

The whole splash damage thing relative to the actual damage done to the troop may need some work but this is pretty good. I think this troop would need about 1500 to 2000 hitpoints or else it wouldn't really be useful and people would just use golems since they only take 5 more space than this. Either give it a health boost or lower camp space

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I guess I'm kind of stuck in a slatemate:unsure:

If I lower camp space, th6s will be able to use it.

If I increase HP, it may become too OP.

But I guess I can give it a bit of a buff

Ah makes sense :thumbsup: but I'm not really sure how I feel on this idea still. :)

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Ah makes sense :thumbsup: but I'm not really sure how I feel on this idea still. :)

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Any reason why?:confused:

Anything need explaining?

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Any reason why?:confused:

Anything need explaining?

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I'm just not sure. I'll try to explain it best I can, this might take a while.

Let's say you used this troop against a single-target Inferno Tower - he has a decent amount of hitpoints so the damage would get pretty high and he could help reflect this back. However, the single target IT would also destroy the Knight fairly easily because, for the same reason, he has a lot of hitpoints. A player might ask, is it worth this moderate amount of damage for just one attack?

This troop would also usually be ineffectual against Mortars - their range is so great that the Knight could not return the damage, not to mention the extremely low damage the Mortar deals, making it pointless anyway.

Scenario 3. You're against a level 4 X-Bow - the lowest damage dealing of all single target defenses at max level. The damage dealt back towards the X-Bow would be basically pointless, as the X Bow is also the strongest of all defenses.

Scenario 4. You're against a rushed base with tons of level 1 defenses. The damage dealt back toward them would be so insignificant and tiny, as they would do barely do any damage themselves. AND not mentioning that you don't even return the full amount of damage until level 3. So that would mean that when being attacked by a level 1 archer tower, the Knight would return a whopping 7.7 damage - that's not so much.

The only time this unit would be of any help would be when a) against a high-damaging defense (Single Target IT) That would kill him quickly anyway, or b) if the defender has high-level defenses, rendering the Knight useless once again. The housing space of 25 is ENORMOUS meaning no one would want to put this unit in their army camps because it is too much of a risk - is he going to be useless against level 1 defenses? Or is he going to be destroyed in a snap by high level defenses?

Hope you understand, and I think it helps to ask yourself: How would this play out if it were in the game? Would people use it? Why or why not? You have to be honest with yourself.

Listen, don't think I'm hating on your idea or even you for that matter, I just don't think this idea would quite work in the game :)

(Phew, that was a lot of typing :))

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

I'm just not sure. I'll try to explain it best I can, this might take a while.

Let's say you used this troop against a single-target Inferno Tower - he has a decent amount of hitpoints so the damage would get pretty high and he could help reflect this back. However, the single target IT would also destroy the Knight fairly easily because, for the same reason, he has a lot of hitpoints. A player might ask, is it worth this moderate amount of damage for just one attack?

This troop would also usually be ineffectual against Mortars - their range is so great that the Knight could not return the damage, not to mention the extremely low damage the Mortar deals, making it pointless anyway.

Scenario 3. You're against a level 4 X-Bow - the lowest damage dealing of all single target defenses at max level. The damage dealt back towards the X-Bow would be basically pointless, as the X Bow is also the strongest of all defenses.

Scenario 4. You're against a rushed base with tons of level 1 defenses. The damage dealt back toward them would be so insignificant and tiny, as they would do barely do any damage themselves. AND not mentioning that you don't even return the full amount of damage until level 3. So that would mean that when being attacked by a level 1 archer tower, the Knight would return a whopping 7.7 damage - that's not so much.

The only time this unit would be of any help would be when a) against a high-damaging defense (Single Target IT) That would kill him quickly anyway, or b) if the defender has high-level defenses, rendering the Knight useless once again. The housing space of 25 is ENORMOUS meaning no one would want to put this unit in their army camps because it is too much of a risk - is he going to be useless against level 1 defenses? Or is he going to be destroyed in a snap by high level defenses?

Hope you understand, and I think it helps to ask yourself: How would this play out if it were in the game? Would people use it? Why or why not? You have to be honest with yourself.

Listen, don't think I'm hating on your idea or even you for that matter, I just don't think this idea would quite work in the game :)

(Phew, that was a lot of typing :))

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Firstly, thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed post as feedback :)

You have a point, so what I've done is increased HP and DPS a little, and decreased the reflection % so it doesn't become too OP.

The reason I was refraining from bringing the housing space down to 20 or below was if I do, this troop will be able to be donated to lower town halls. And you can't fight this troop with lvl3 barbarians.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

I'm just not sure. I'll try to explain it best I can, this might take a while.

Let's say you used this troop against a single-target Inferno Tower - he has a decent amount of hitpoints so the damage would get pretty high and he could help reflect this back. However, the single target IT would also destroy the Knight fairly easily because, for the same reason, he has a lot of hitpoints. A player might ask, is it worth this moderate amount of damage for just one attack?

This troop would also usually be ineffectual against Mortars - their range is so great that the Knight could not return the damage, not to mention the extremely low damage the Mortar deals, making it pointless anyway.

Scenario 3. You're against a level 4 X-Bow - the lowest damage dealing of all single target defenses at max level. The damage dealt back towards the X-Bow would be basically pointless, as the X Bow is also the strongest of all defenses.

Scenario 4. You're against a rushed base with tons of level 1 defenses. The damage dealt back toward them would be so insignificant and tiny, as they would do barely do any damage themselves. AND not mentioning that you don't even return the full amount of damage until level 3. So that would mean that when being attacked by a level 1 archer tower, the Knight would return a whopping 7.7 damage - that's not so much.

The only time this unit would be of any help would be when a) against a high-damaging defense (Single Target IT) That would kill him quickly anyway, or b) if the defender has high-level defenses, rendering the Knight useless once again. The housing space of 25 is ENORMOUS meaning no one would want to put this unit in their army camps because it is too much of a risk - is he going to be useless against level 1 defenses? Or is he going to be destroyed in a snap by high level defenses?

Hope you understand, and I think it helps to ask yourself: How would this play out if it were in the game? Would people use it? Why or why not? You have to be honest with yourself.

Listen, don't think I'm hating on your idea or even you for that matter, I just don't think this idea would quite work in the game :)

(Phew, that was a lot of typing :))

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It is true that this troop would be better against some defenses than others, but thats the same for any troop.

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Well I think I should first thank a few people. These guys helped me make this troop work :):

jonnguy2014
icey567
NuclearKiller42

And, surprisingly, 3 people on global who helped me with the stats. No seriously :smirk::

crush - LEANGDRY BOYS 3
saint john - the ballers
IrishDumplin - InvisibleEmpire

NOTE: The global people have given me permission to mention them here

NOTE2: Clans are as of April 8 2015

OK then, so let's get started on the troop:

The Knight

Description: This mighty warrior reflects damage done to it, right back on to its enemies!

Sound OP? Well I've tried to balance it with the stats :thumbsup:

Level	DPS	HP	Reflection (%)	Cost (DE)
1	40	1900	40	400
2	45	2000	50	450
3	50	2100	60	500

Constant stats:

Speed: 12
Favourite Target: Defences
Attack Rate: 2 seconds
Training Time: 30 minutes
Housing Space: 25 (please tell me what you think of the housing space)
Damage Type: Single Target
Range: 1 tile (or whatever range a giant has)
Targets: Ground (but Reflection works on air too)
Type: Ground Troop

Now, you may be thinking, what is this "Reflection"?

Well, that is this troop's special ability!

When attacked by a defence/enemy troop, this troop takes the damage, and then also inflicts the same damage on the defence! Example:

Mortar attacks level 1 troop with 100 damage (100 to make calculations easier)

Troop loses 100 HP

Mortar loses 70% of 100 = 70 HP

Now, you may be thinking, what if there are 10 of these all bunched up, and a mortar (or any splash defence/troop) does 100 damage to all of them in one shot? Does the mortar lose 1000 HP?! The answer is no. The mortar will still only lose 100 HP.

This troop will be unlocked in Dark Barracks Level 8, which will cost 4,250,000 elixir and 10 days to upgrade.

Upgrade Costs:

Level	Upgrade Cost	Upgrade Time
2	70,000	12 Days
3	80,000	14 Days

Now let's see how this troop will affect the game.

Attacking Strategies

I think the major change this troop will make is that people might use it with healers! Why? Well, the more HP this troop has, the more Reflection it can do before dying!

This troop can also be deployed with barch/all arch armies, to do some damage to mortars. KnArch! KnBArch!

And there can be compositions like GoKnWiPe, and GoWiKniWiPe, and- You get the point.

Defensive Strategies

Well keep your splash damage centralised! That's the main point, really. Let your point defences take these troops out.

I might actually create an Anti-Knight Base at some point :smirk:

Defending From The Clan Castle

This troop is very good in defence. Most troops that attack it die of reflection after a few hits.

To kill this troop, NEVER use wizards, archers, goblins or hog riders. The best troop to counter the knight is the Valkyrie, but barbarians would do.

And now for the:

FAQ

Why is this a ground troop?

Well, the main thing I had to see while making the stats of this troop was the various defences' DPS:HP ratio. Air defences have a very high DPS compared to their HP, and would have both demolished the troop, and also would have been wrecked by the Reflection.

Why the high housing space?

The main reason is that any troop with a 20 or below housing space will be available to TH6s. And this troop is waaayyy too OP at TH6!

Why the Knight?

Well the original name was the Mirror (suggested by jonnguy2014). But that was a bit unrealistic, so in the end we decided to have a knight, with "mirror-like" armour:)

Isn't the DPS too low?

Well the main damage this troop does is from Reflection. The DPS is low to balance the troop.

Well I hope you loved this troop idea, as I've been working at it for at least a week! If you like the idea, be sure to reply! Well reply anyway :smirk:

Thanks!

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hey nice one. i am also your friend in forums..idea was great..you are a grat creator ...
and also visit and remove any problems in my spell...


http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...raction-seeker

I'm just saying, this troop would normally be low-damage dealing, so no one would want to use this troop because of that and that there's nothing else unique about it.

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Originally Posted by jzitovsky

It is true that this troop would be better against some defenses than others, but thats the same for any troop.

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That's true

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Originally Posted by wizardiepranay

hey nice one. i am also your friend in forums..idea was great..you are a grat creator ...
and also visit and remove any problems in my spell...


http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...raction-seeker

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Thanks!

I'll see your thread but please don't advertise your threads in other people's threads.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

I'm just saying, this troop would normally be low-damage dealing, so no one would want to use this troop because of that and that there's nothing else unique about it.

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But what about the reflection feature?

What do you suggest the DPS should be?

Just increased the DPS back to the original stats.

80,90,100

Thoughts?

DONT NEED THIS THING AS WE ALREADY HAVE PEKKA AND THAT TOO WORKING PERFECTLY....:eek:

Cool idea..

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Originally Posted by SWABHI

DONT NEED THIS THING AS WE ALREADY HAVE PEKKA AND THAT TOO WORKING PERFECTLY....:eek:

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Pekka? This is nothing like a pekka...

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Originally Posted by SWABHI

Cool idea..

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But you just said... But... B-but... Well... Thanks!:smirk:

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

That's true

But what about the reflection feature?

What do you suggest the DPS should be?

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Ok, I'll try and explain:smirk::smirk::smirk:

I'm not talking about the DPS. I'm talking about just reflecting back damage in general. He can basically sometimes be a PEKKA (With his high DPS and a max level defense targeting him) Or an archer (When a level 1 archer tower attacks him). No one would want to use him, because it's too much of a risk, doesn't offer any game changing pay, and why pay dark elixir when you can buy 25 barbs/archers instead?

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Ok, I'll try and explain:smirk::smirk::smirk:

I'm not talking about the DPS. I'm talking about just reflecting back damage in general. He can basically sometimes be a PEKKA (With his high DPS and a max level defense targeting him) Or an archer (When a level 1 archer tower attacks him). No one would want to use him, because it's too much of a risk, doesn't offer any game changing pay, and why pay dark elixir when you can buy 25 barbs/archers instead?

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Well the concept of the troop was to take out mortars that are deep inside the base.

And this troop could also potentially bring back healers to high level raids.

The troop, when paired with wall breakers, can reach the range of a mortar, and then attack it.

Do you think the troop will be a bit better if I increase the reflection %?

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Well the concept of the troop was to take out mortars that are deep inside the base.

And this troop could also potentially bring back healers to high level raids.

The troop, when paired with wall breakers, can reach the range of a mortar, and then attack it.

Do you think the troop will be a bit better if I increase the reflection %?

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I just don't know. I take it I'm saying stuff and nobody really understands what I'm saying?:confused::):confused:

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Well I think I should first thank a few people. These guys helped me make this troop work :):

jonnguy2014
icey567
NuclearKiller42

And, surprisingly, 3 people on global who helped me with the stats. No seriously :smirk::

crush - LEANGDRY BOYS 3
saint john - the ballers
IrishDumplin - InvisibleEmpire

NOTE: The global people have given me permission to mention them here

NOTE2: Clans are as of April 8 2015

OK then, so let's get started on the troop:

The Knight

Description: This mighty warrior reflects damage done to it, right back on to its enemies!

Sound OP? Well I've tried to balance it with the stats :thumbsup:

Level	DPS	HP	Reflection (%)	Cost (DE)
1	80	1900	40	400
2	90	2000	50	450
3	100	2100	60	500

Constant stats:

Speed: 12
Favourite Target: Defences
Attack Rate: 2 seconds
Training Time: 30 minutes
Housing Space: 25 (please tell me what you think of the housing space)
Damage Type: Single Target
Range: 1 tile (or whatever range a giant has)
Targets: Ground (but Reflection works on air too)
Type: Ground Troop

Now, you may be thinking, what is this "Reflection"?

Well, that is this troop's special ability!

When attacked by a defence/enemy troop, this troop takes the damage, and then also inflicts the same damage on the defence! Example:

Mortar attacks level 1 troop with 100 damage (100 to make calculations easier)

Troop loses 100 HP

Mortar loses 70% of 100 = 70 HP

Now, you may be thinking, what if there are 10 of these all bunched up, and a mortar (or any splash defence/troop) does 100 damage to all of them in one shot? Does the mortar lose 1000 HP?! The answer is no. The mortar will still only lose 100 HP.

This troop will be unlocked in Dark Barracks Level 8, which will cost 4,250,000 elixir and 10 days to upgrade.

Upgrade Costs:

Level	Upgrade Cost	Upgrade Time
2	70,000	12 Days
3	80,000	14 Days

Now let's see how this troop will affect the game.

Attacking Strategies

I think the major change this troop will make is that people might use it with healers! Why? Well, the more HP this troop has, the more Reflection it can do before dying!

This troop can also be deployed with barch/all arch armies, to do some damage to mortars. KnArch! KnBArch!

And there can be compositions like GoKnWiPe, and GoWiKniWiPe, and- You get the point.

Defensive Strategies

Well keep your splash damage centralised! That's the main point, really. Let your point defences take these troops out.

I might actually create an Anti-Knight Base at some point :smirk:

Defending From The Clan Castle

This troop is very good in defence. Most troops that attack it die of reflection after a few hits.

To kill this troop, NEVER use wizards, archers, goblins or hog riders. The best troop to counter the knight is the Valkyrie, but barbarians would do.

And now for the:

FAQ

Why is this a ground troop?

Well, the main thing I had to see while making the stats of this troop was the various defences' DPS:HP ratio. Air defences have a very high DPS compared to their HP, and would have both demolished the troop, and also would have been wrecked by the Reflection.

Why the high housing space?

The main reason is that any troop with a 20 or below housing space will be available to TH6s. And this troop is waaayyy too OP at TH6!

Why the Knight?

Well the original name was the Mirror (suggested by jonnguy2014). But that was a bit unrealistic, so in the end we decided to have a knight, with "mirror-like" armour:)

Isn't the DPS too low?

Well the main damage this troop does is from Reflection. The DPS is low to balance the troop.

Well I hope you loved this troop idea, as I've been working at it for at least a week! If you like the idea, be sure to reply! Well reply anyway :smirk:

Thanks!

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I don't mean to be rude, but this is almost a Peka, except instead of a ton of damage, it reflects a lot of it. This seems like it may be a bit OP as it would do a total damage NOT ATTACKING, just receiving 1260 damage(max lvl). Thats easily one building and part of another before it dies, never mind its dps. Also I don't know if reflecting is an ability supercell is accepting I don't know if i saw it on their list of ideas to instantly reject. If its not this would be good along with a few adjustments. Good luck

I like the idea but don't really like the name.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

I just don't know. I take it I'm saying stuff and nobody really understands what I'm saying?:confused::):confused:

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Maybe, what I think you're saying is the troop is a bit UP so people might want to use other troops instead...?:confused:

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Originally Posted by HotPotato55

I don't mean to be rude, but this is almost a Peka, except instead of a ton of damage, it reflects a lot of it. This seems like it may be a bit OP as it would do a total damage NOT ATTACKING, just receiving 1260 damage(max lvl). Thats easily one building and part of another before it dies, never mind its dps. Also I don't know if reflecting is an ability supercell is accepting I don't know if i saw it on their list of ideas to instantly reject. If its not this would be good along with a few adjustments. Good luck

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I didn't notice that actually, thanks for posting.

I have decreased the Reflection % now, I think the troop is a bit more balanced now.

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Originally Posted by thebeastfromtheeast

I like the idea but don't really like the name.

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Why don't you like the name?

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Maybe, what I think you're saying is the troop is a bit UP so people might want to use other troops instead...?:confused:

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That's it. :)

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

That's it. :)

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Ahhhhhhh I see...

So I've given DPS a biiiig boost, so now it does 160-200 damage every hit.

Is that fine? Or should I increase it more?

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Ahhhhhhh I see...

So I've given DPS a biiiig boost, so now it does 160-200 damage every hit.

Is that fine? Or should I increase it more?

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Sorry, but if you increase the damage too much it's a PEKKA but if you don't it's a Barbarian. :(

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Sorry, but if you increase the damage too much it's a PEKKA but if you don't it's a Barbarian. :(

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Its not nearly as powerful as a PEKKA right now

This troop can actually be the DE version of a PEKKA.

Sliiightly weaker DPS and HP, but a cool ability.

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

This troop can actually be the DE version of a PEKKA.

Sliiightly weaker DPS and HP, but a cool ability.

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I don't think you get what I'm saying.

This is troop has no ability - the reflected damage is just damage. Not a special ability. Do you get what I'm saying yet?

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

I don't think you get what I'm saying.

This is troop has no ability - the reflected damage is just damage. Not a special ability. Do you get what I'm saying yet?

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That can actually be its ability. Like the valkyrie's whirlwind. Only dark troop with no ability is the minion.

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Originally Posted by SpiderPig

That can actually be its ability. Like the valkyrie's whirlwind. Only dark troop with no ability is the minion.

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Then how is it any different from normal damage?

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Then how is it any different from normal damage?

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Defences can be damaged even if the troop is no where near them.

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Defences can be damaged even if the troop is no where near them.

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I guess, but the troop would have to be somewhat close for it to be even targeted by the defense...

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

I guess, but the troop would have to be somewhat close for it to be even targeted by the defense...

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I don't think you get the point of this troop:straightface:

It basically takes out defences without the hassle of breaking through walls and other buildings, so your other troops don't die.

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

I don't think you get the point of this troop:straightface:

It basically takes out defences without the hassle of breaking through walls and other buildings, so your other troops don't die.

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I do get the point I just don't think high level people would use this troop as it takes up way too much space.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

I do get the point I just don't think high level people would use this troop as it takes up way too much space.

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How about now? I've increased the HP by 50%. I can't decrease housing space as this troop is way too OP for TH6

EDIT: Oh wait I can...

EDIT: Is a housing space of 20 better?

Good idea I like it but Hp: 1200 and housing space 10 would be better I think.

What do u mean this is way too OP for town hall 6....you don't unlock it until town hall 9 or 10? And if you're talking about in the clan castle, I'm pretty sure you can fit a dragon in there.

Lower the hitpoints by a lot and decrease the housing space again.

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

If I lower camp space, th6s will be able to use it.

But I guess I can give it a bit of a buff

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TH6 doesn't have a dark elixir storage, and also this troop I assume would be unlocked fairly high in Dark Barracks, which means that only TH9 or 10 would access

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

I don't think you get what I'm saying.

This is troop has no ability - the reflected damage is just damage. Not a special ability. Do you get what I'm saying yet?

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That's not right- because the reflected damage can take effect in a huge range for example a knight can damage a x-bow 14 tiles away if he is attacked by it.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

What do u mean this is way too OP for town hall 6....you don't unlock it until town hall 9 or 10? And if you're talking about in the clan castle, I'm pretty sure you can fit a dragon in there.

Lower the hitpoints by a lot and decrease the housing space again.

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Originally Posted by Irthmus12

TH6 doesn't have a dark elixir storage, and also this troop I assume would be unlocked fairly high in Dark Barracks, which means that only TH9 or 10 would access

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If the housing space is less than 20, then people can donate this to a TH6. Sorry if that wasn't clear:)

But can't a Town Hall 6 already be donated a Dragon?

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

But can't a Town Hall 6 already be donated a Dragon?

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I know, that's why I took it back and changed the housing space earlier:smirk:

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Originally Posted by pixlon

Good idea I like it but Hp: 1200 and housing space 10 would be better I think.

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Why so?:confused:

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Why so?:confused:

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Because it's too much like a PEKKA/Golem right now.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Because it's too much like a PEKKA/Golem right now.

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Not every troop with a high DPS/HP is a PEKKA/Golem

I don't think you are realising the actual ability of this troop.

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Not every troop with a high DPS/HP is a PEKKA/Golem

I don't think you are realising the actual ability of this troop.

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Sigh. He's saying there's too much HP and a person even said before he's like a PEKKA. He just has wayyyyyyyy too many hitpoints.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Sigh. He's saying there's too much HP and a person even said before he's like a PEKKA. He just has wayyyyyyyy too many hitpoints.

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Ohhhhhhhhhh... I get what you're trying to say now...

Ok I've halved HP and housing space, looks better?

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Well I think I should first thank a few people. These guys helped me make this troop work :):

jonnguy2014
icey567
NuclearKiller42

And, surprisingly, 3 people on global who helped me with the stats. No seriously :smirk::

crush - LEANGDRY BOYS 3
saint john - the ballers
IrishDumplin - InvisibleEmpire

NOTE: The global people have given me permission to mention them here

NOTE2: Clans are as of April 8 2015

OK then, so let's get started on the troop:

The Knight

Description: This mighty warrior reflects damage done to it, right back on to its enemies!

Sound OP? Well I've tried to balance it with the stats :thumbsup:

Level	DPS	HP	Reflection (%)	Cost (DE)
1	80	1400	20	400
2	90	1500	25	450
3	100	1600	30	500

Constant stats:

Speed: 12
Favourite Target: Defences
Attack Rate: 2 seconds
Training Time: 30 minutes
Housing Space: 10 (please tell me what you think of the housing space)
Damage Type: Single Target
Range: 1 tile (or whatever range a giant has)
Targets: Ground (but Reflection works on air too)
Type: Ground Troop

Now, you may be thinking, what is this "Reflection"?

Well, that is this troop's special ability!

When attacked by a defence/enemy troop, this troop takes the damage, and then also inflicts the same damage on the defence! Example:

Mortar attacks level 1 troop with 100 damage (100 to make calculations easier)

Troop loses 100 HP

Mortar loses 70% of 100 = 70 HP

Now, you may be thinking, what if there are 10 of these all bunched up, and a mortar (or any splash defence/troop) does 100 damage to all of them in one shot? Does the mortar lose 1000 HP?! The answer is no. The mortar will still only lose 100 HP.

This troop will be unlocked in Dark Barracks Level 8, which will cost 4,250,000 elixir and 10 days to upgrade.

Upgrade Costs:

Level	Upgrade Cost	Upgrade Time
2	70,000	12 Days
3	80,000	14 Days

Now let's see how this troop will affect the game.

Attacking Strategies

I think the major change this troop will make is that people might use it with healers! Why? Well, the more HP this troop has, the more Reflection it can do before dying!

This troop can also be deployed with barch/all arch armies, to do some damage to mortars. KnArch! KnBArch!

And there can be compositions like GoKnWiPe, and GoWiKniWiPe, and- You get the point.

Defensive Strategies

Well keep your splash damage centralised! That's the main point, really. Let your point defences take these troops out.

I might actually create an Anti-Knight Base at some point :smirk:

Defending From The Clan Castle

This troop is very good in defence. Most troops that attack it die of reflection after a few hits.

To kill this troop, NEVER use wizards, archers, goblins or hog riders. The best troop to counter the knight is the Valkyrie, but barbarians would do.

And now for the:

FAQ

Why is this a ground troop?

Well, the main thing I had to see while making the stats of this troop was the various defences' DPS:HP ratio. Air defences have a very high DPS compared to their HP, and would have both demolished the troop, and also would have been wrecked by the Reflection.

Why the high housing space?

The main reason is that any troop with a 20 or below housing space will be available to TH6s. And this troop is waaayyy too OP at TH6!

Why the Knight?

Well the original name was the Mirror (suggested by jonnguy2014). But that was a bit unrealistic, so in the end we decided to have a knight, with "mirror-like" armour:)

Well I hope you liked this troop idea, as I've been working at it for at least a week! If you like the idea, be sure to reply! Well reply anyway :smirk:

Thanks!

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I don't really understand what The Knight's Special Ability is. Also, the Housing Space is too low and wouldn't that make a TH6 have 2 of these donated to them? Maybe it should be 16? You should add a Poll too!

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Originally Posted by Jamesf01

I don't really understand what The Knight's Special Ability is. Also, the Housing Space is too low and wouldn't that make a TH6 have 2 of these donated to them? Maybe it should be 16? You should add a Poll too!

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16 is actually not a bad idea, it has the same effect as 20 so I will use it.

The special ability:

Suppose someone is Knarching. Mortars are the biggest threat to archers.

The guy deploys one or too Knights. Mortar attacks knights. But the Reflection damages the mortar. Basically this troop can use Reflection to attack from reeeaaally far away.

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

16 is actually not a bad idea, it has the same effect as 20 so I will use it.

The special ability:

Suppose someone is Knarching. Mortars are the biggest threat to archers.

The guy deploys one or too Knights. Mortar attacks knights. But the Reflection damages the mortar. Basically this troop can use Reflection to attack from reeeaaally far away.

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Oh! That is pretty cool actually! I know that it is not that bad of an idea! I don't have the Most Viewed Troop Idea on the Forums for nothing! :p

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Well I think I should first thank a few people. These guys helped me make this troop work :):

jonnguy2014
icey567
AnthonyVince
Jamesf01
NuclearKiller42

And, surprisingly, 3 people on global who helped me with the stats. No seriously :smirk::

crush - LEANGDRY BOYS 3
saint john - the ballers
IrishDumplin - InvisibleEmpire

NOTE: The global people have given me permission to mention them here

NOTE2: Clans are as of April 8 2015

OK then, so let's get started on the troop:

The Knight

Description: This mighty warrior reflects damage done to it, right back on to its enemies!

Sound OP? Well I've tried to balance it with the stats :thumbsup:

Level	DPS	HP	Reflection (%)	Cost (DE)
1	80	1900	20	400
2	90	2000	25	450
3	100	2100	30	500

Constant stats:

Speed: 12
Favourite Target: Defences
Attack Rate: 2 seconds
Training Time: 30 minutes
Housing Space: 16 (please tell me what you think of the housing space)
Damage Type: Single Target
Range: 1 tile (or whatever range a giant has)
Targets: Ground (but Reflection works on air too)
Type: Ground Troop

Now, you may be thinking, what is this "Reflection"?

Well, that is this troop's special ability!

When attacked by a defence/enemy troop, this troop takes the damage, and then also inflicts the same damage on the defence! Example:

Mortar attacks level 1 troop with 100 damage (100 to make calculations easier)

Troop loses 100 HP

Mortar loses 70% of 100 = 70 HP

Now, you may be thinking, what if there are 10 of these all bunched up, and a mortar (or any splash defence/troop) does 100 damage to all of them in one shot? Does the mortar lose 1000 HP?! The answer is no. The mortar will still only lose 100 HP.

This troop will be unlocked in Dark Barracks Level 8, which will cost 4,250,000 elixir and 10 days to upgrade.

Upgrade Costs:

Level	Upgrade Cost	Upgrade Time
2	70,000	12 Days
3	80,000	14 Days

Now let's see how this troop will affect the game.

Attacking Strategies

I think the major change this troop will make is that people might use it with healers! Why? Well, the more HP this troop has, the more Reflection it can do before dying!

This troop can also be deployed with barch/all arch armies, to do some damage to mortars. KnArch! KnBArch!

And there can be compositions like GoKnWiPe, and GoWiKniWiPe, and- You get the point.

Defensive Strategies

Well keep your splash damage centralised! That's the main point, really. Let your point defences take these troops out.

I might actually create an Anti-Knight Base at some point :smirk:

Defending From The Clan Castle

This troop is very good in defence. Most troops that attack it die of reflection after a few hits.

To kill this troop, NEVER use wizards, archers, goblins or hog riders. The best troop to counter the knight is the Valkyrie, but barbarians would do.

And now for the:

FAQ

Why is this a ground troop?

Well, the main thing I had to see while making the stats of this troop was the various defences' DPS:HP ratio. Air defences have a very high DPS compared to their HP, and would have both demolished the troop, and also would have been wrecked by the Reflection.

Why the high housing space?

The main reason is that any troop with a 20 or below housing space will be available to TH6s. And this troop is waaayyy too OP at TH6!

Why the Knight?

Well the original name was the Mirror (suggested by jonnguy2014). But that was a bit unrealistic, so in the end we decided to have a knight, with "mirror-like" armour:)

Well I hope you liked this troop idea, as I've been working at it for at least a week! If you like the idea, be sure to reply! Well reply anyway :smirk:

Thanks!

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Why did you make it so you can see who voted? I never did that with any of my Polls. What if some people prefer that they are Anomymous?

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Originally Posted by Jamesf01

Why did you make it so you can see who voted? I never did that with any of my Polls. What if some people prefer that they are Anomymous?

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But in past experience people just vote no and run off without saying why. Now I can VM them or something, not force then to reply but just ask what they didn't like.

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

But in past experience people just vote no and run off without saying why. Now I can VM them or something, not force then to reply but just ask what they didn't like.

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They have their own Opinions and sometimes they just don't say why. What is wrong with that?

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Originally Posted by Jamesf01

People have their own Opinions and sometimes they just don't say why. What is wrong with that?

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Its because the polls usually say "say why below" or something so they aren't meant to just not say why.

let's continue this on VM.

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Its because the polls usually say "say why below" or something so they aren't meant to just not say why.

let's continue this on VM.

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They don't HAVE to say why. You would just like them too. They are free to do what they want and that includes choosing to say or not to say why.

I really like this idea! The only problem I have with it is the fact that it could really mess up GoWiPe attacks, as its reflection could serve to take out many of the wizards. I love how it makes healers revelant again.. But what if it has a weakness to a certain defense/troop, such as how teslas mess up PEKKAs. Overall great idea, I hope Supercell thinks so too! :D

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Originally Posted by Jamesf01

Oh! That is pretty cool actually! I know that it is not that bad of an idea! I don't have the Most Viewed Troop Idea on the Forums for nothing! :p

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Really? What is it?

Oh dang I clicked the wrong option on the poll. You can change that to yes with changes, Smasher. :)

Changes:
- Keep on lowering the HP, I'm thinking to the same as a Valk at level 1 (900)
- Increase the reflection by a lot, probably 50%, 60%, 70%

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Really? What is it?

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Make it so it shows the Most Viewed Threads. It was also Closed. But, that was many months ago and it is still the Most Viewed Thread on this Sub-Forum.

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Originally Posted by Jamesf01

Make it so it shows the Most Viewed Threads. It was also Closed. But, that was many months ago and it is still the Most Viewed Thread on this Sub-Forum.

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I don't know how to do that...at leader tell me the title of it? And why was it closed?

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

I don't know how to do that...at leader tell me the title of it? And why was it closed?

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Do you see Replies / Views? Click Views.

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Originally Posted by Jamesf01

Do you see Replies / Views? Click Views.

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No I don't sorry :(

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Originally Posted by jonnguy2014

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...roop-Idea-Wolf

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Well, that is the Link to my Idea.

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Originally Posted by jeycoal

I really like this idea! The only problem I have with it is the fact that it could really mess up GoWiPe attacks, as its reflection could serve to take out many of the wizards. I love how it makes healers revelant again.. But what if it has a weakness to a certain defense/troop, such as how teslas mess up PEKKAs. Overall great idea, I hope Supercell thinks so too! :D

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Thanks jey!

I may make it weak to xbows, but I'm not sure how that would turn out.

This is a troop, so the wizards in GoWiPe won't die :)

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Oh dang I clicked the wrong option on the poll. You can change that to yes with changes, Smasher. :)

Changes:
- Keep on lowering the HP, I'm thinking to the same as a Valk at level 1 (900)
- Increase the reflection by a lot, probably 50%, 60%, 70%

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- I think it should be a bit more than a valk, as it is 4 more housing space than a valk.
- Oh yeah I decreased it to balance with the high HP, but then I decreased HP and forgot to change reflection back

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

No I don't sorry :(

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You are probably on the mobile site, click full site at the bottom:)

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Originally Posted by Jamesf01

Oh! That is pretty cool actually! I know that it is not that bad of an idea! I don't have the Most Viewed Troop Idea on the Forums for nothing! :p

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Oh I didn't see this reply, thanks James!

And I still can't get over the fact that your thread was closed for excessive bumping:facepalm:

1 more person has voted for no, and 1 has voted for yes with changes.

Please reply on the thread as to how I can improve this troop. Feedback is highly appreciated:)

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I have decreased HP and increased reflection %

Feedback?:)

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Oh I didn't see this reply, thanks James!

And I still can't get over the fact that your thread was closed for excessive bumping:facepalm:

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Me and some other people were getting really Off-Topic and I posted at least once on nearly every single page.

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Originally Posted by TheOneTheyCallSmasher

Well I think I should first thank a few people. These guys helped me make this troop work :):

jonnguy2014
icey567
AnthonyVince
Jamesf01
NuclearKiller42

And, surprisingly, 3 people on global who helped me with the stats. No seriously :smirk::

crush - LEANGDRY BOYS 3
saint john - the ballers
IrishDumplin - InvisibleEmpire

NOTE: The global people have given me permission to mention them here

NOTE2: Clans are as of April 8 2015

OK then, so let's get started on the troop:

The Knight

Description: This mighty warrior reflects damage done to it, right back on to its enemies!

Sound OP? Well I've tried to balance it with the stats :thumbsup:

Level	DPS	HP	Reflection (%)	Cost (DE)
1	80	1400	30	400
2	90	1500	40	450
3	100	1600	50	500

Constant stats:

Speed: 12
Favourite Target: Defences
Attack Rate: 2 seconds
Training Time: 30 minutes
Housing Space: 16 (please tell me what you think of the housing space)
Damage Type: Single Target
Range: 1 tile (or whatever range a giant has)
Targets: Ground (but Reflection works on air too)
Type: Ground Troop

Now, you may be thinking, what is this "Reflection"?

Well, that is this troop's special ability!

When attacked by a defence/enemy troop, this troop takes the damage, and then also inflicts the same damage on the defence! Example:

Mortar attacks level 1 troop with 100 damage (100 to make calculations easier)

Troop loses 100 HP

Mortar loses 70% of 100 = 70 HP

Now, you may be thinking, what if there are 10 of these all bunched up, and a mortar (or any splash defence/troop) does 100 damage to all of them in one shot? Does the mortar lose 1000 HP?! The answer is no. The mortar will still only lose 100 HP.

This troop will be unlocked in Dark Barracks Level 8, which will cost 4,250,000 elixir and 10 days to upgrade.

Upgrade Costs:

Level	Upgrade Cost	Upgrade Time
2	70,000	12 Days
3	80,000	14 Days

Now let's see how this troop will affect the game.

Attacking Strategies

I think the major change this troop will make is that people might use it with healers! Why? Well, the more HP this troop has, the more Reflection it can do before dying!

This troop can also be deployed with barch/all arch armies, to do some damage to mortars. KnArch! KnBArch!

And there can be compositions like GoKnWiPe, and GoWiKniWiPe, and- You get the point.

Defensive Strategies

Well keep your splash damage centralised! That's the main point, really. Let your point defences take these troops out.

I might actually create an Anti-Knight Base at some point :smirk:

Defending From The Clan Castle

This troop is very good in defence. Most troops that attack it die of reflection after a few hits.

To kill this troop, NEVER use wizards, archers, goblins or hog riders. The best troop to counter the knight is the Valkyrie, but barbarians would do.

And now for the:

FAQ

Why is this a ground troop?

Well, the main thing I had to see while making the stats of this troop was the various defences' DPS:HP ratio. Air defences have a very high DPS compared to their HP, and would have both demolished the troop, and also would have been wrecked by the Reflection.

Why the high housing space?

The main reason is that any troop with a 20 or below housing space will be available to TH6s. And this troop is waaayyy too OP at TH6!

Why the Knight?

Well the original name was the Mirror (suggested by jonnguy2014). But that was a bit unrealistic, so in the end we decided to have a knight, with "mirror-like" armour:)

Well I hope you liked this troop idea, as I've been working at it for at least a week! If you like the idea, be sure to reply! Well reply anyway :smirk:

Thanks!

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I think that it looks pretty good now. The Damage and the Health isn't too bad and the Special Ability makes it really Unique and different. Also, I see my name up there! :smirk::D

Really smart idea. The special ability is really cool too.

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Me and some other people were getting really Off-Topic and I posted at least once on nearly every single page.

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Yep lol, you were talking about how to view your troop thread:smirk:

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I think that it looks pretty good now. The Damage and the Health isn't too bad and the Special Ability makes it really Unique and different. Also, I see my name up there! :smirk::D

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Yay thanks! And you did help me in stats so I put you up there :D

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Really smart idea. The special ability is really cool too.

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Yay thanks lukmin!!

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Yep lol, you were talking about how to view your troop thread:smirk:

Yay thanks! And you did help me in stats so I put you up there :D

Yay thanks lukmin!!

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I wasn't talking about how to view my Troop Thread? Are you talking about here or the Thread itself?

I really really like this idea, but I think the name "Paladin" is cooler.

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I really really like this idea, but I think the name "Paladin" is cooler.

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It needs to fit the Theme of Clash of Clans though.

I like the idea, reminds me of the Hades Armor item in Heroes of Order and Chaos.
But, I think you should either greatly nerf the reflection and allow the whole 10 bunch of them reflecting, or slightly increase it and not do that.
Otherwise, it looks good.
Maybe add a bit more damage and health.

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I wasn't talking about how to view my Troop Thread? Are you talking about here or the Thread itself?

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Oh wait forget what I said, I got confused.

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I like the idea, reminds me of the Hades Armor item in Heroes of Order and Chaos.
But, I think you should either greatly nerf the reflection and allow the whole 10 bunch of them reflecting, or slightly increase it and not do that.
Otherwise, it looks good.
Maybe add a bit more damage and health.

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Thanks!:)

The thing about the reflection is true, so I've decreased it to 20/25/30%:thumbsup:

I think the DPS/HP fits well with the housing space right now though.

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I really really like this idea, but I think the name "Paladin" is cooler.

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Hmmm...

I guess I'll leave that to SC to decide. I think Knight is a simple name that hasn't been added yet, and the shiny armour fits with reflection.

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Hmmm...

I guess I'll leave that to SC to decide. I think Knight is a simple name that hasn't been added yet, and the shiny armour fits with reflection.

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Bump much? :) Lol jk

Good idea! But the Hp is a bit high....

I think that the reflection ability should be a damage dealer within a two block diameter of the knight. This is because if something actually did get reflected off of armor in real life, it would reflect directly near it. I also think there should be some towers that don't give the knight reflection so it balances it out. For example, the wizard tower.

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It needs to fit the Theme of Clash of Clans though.

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I think Paladin does just fine. I guess that's an opinion thing.

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Hmmm...

I guess I'll leave that to SC to decide. I think Knight is a simple name that hasn't been added yet, and the shiny armour fits with reflection.

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Yeah, my inner logophile just prefers 'Paladin." It's their choice :-)

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Good idea! But the Hp is a bit high....

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The HP is high because the housing space is high:)

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I think that the reflection ability should be a damage dealer within a two block diameter of the knight. This is because if something actually did get reflected off of armor in real life, it would reflect directly near it. I also think there should be some towers that don't give the knight reflection so it balances it out. For example, the wizard tower.

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Well the point of the ability is that it can damage things like mortars and xbows from far away, ndo the 2 tile radius thing would stop that from happening.

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Yeah, my inner logophile just prefers 'Paladin." It's their choice :-)

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Yep :)

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Thanks! Anything to improve? Or is this looking good now?

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I think Paladin does just fine. I guess that's an opinion thing.

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Yep, I guess.

I don't mind either, but I'll leave SC to decide which fits with the game.

The shining knights of Lordaeron would certainly fit Clash's medieval theme...

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The shining knights of Lordaeron would certainly fit Clash's medieval theme...

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Yep, that's what I thought too:):)

Stats OK guys? Anyone wanna say something about stats?

So I see more people have been voting yes!:D

Guys, which ever option you vote for, can you still post some feedback?:)

What you liked, what you didn't like, what you think can change etc.

Thanks!

-Smasher

Nice...some questions I have:
Attacking/Reflection Animation?
Ideas:
Attack: Sword
Reflect: ???

Fix this part:
Mortar attacks level 1 troop with 100 damage (100 to make calculations easier)

Troop loses 100 HP

Mortar loses 70% of 100 = 70 HP

Reflection for Level 1 is only 20 percent

The main reason is that any troop with a 20 or below housing space will be available to TH6s. And this troop is waaayyy too OP at TH6!

It is now 16...and TH6 can get drags...so that argument isn't really good.





Nice idea for a tank troop overall...
Just one more question:
I think the knight fits into a medieval theme..

i think this is a good idea but if Supercell ever decided to use it they would definitely change it up a bit

I like the idea of it reflecting damage but not so much to any building that attacks it. For instance, it doesn't really make sense to say that if a mortar attacks a knight from a long distance away somehow he's able to reflect a portion of that damage towards that very same mortar. Now if you switched this to where the knight has a set range and the damage he takes is distributed to defenses or troops near his location then i think it becomes more probable as an idea. In that scenario, an xbow or inferno begins targeting the knight, a portion of the damage he takes becomes reflected on the archer tower right next to him. Theres even a problem in that example because if 2 defenses are the same distance from the knight, how does he determine which defense gets the reflection damage. Perhaps if he deals 40% of the damage he takes back on any defenses within his range so like maybe 5 tiles. As of now however you take the "range" out of ranged units by creating a troop that dispenses with the very things which are created for that purpose, namely, walls and distanced based defenses like xbows and archer towers. All things aside, i think there is promise with this idea but as it stands it flops as a potential new troop.

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I like the idea of it reflecting damage but not so much to any building that attacks it. For instance, it doesn't really make sense to say that if a mortar attacks a knight from a long distance away somehow he's able to reflect a portion of that damage towards that very same mortar. Now if you switched this to where the knight has a set range and the damage he takes is distributed to defenses or troops near his location then i think it becomes more probable as an idea. In that scenario, an xbow or inferno begins targeting the knight, a portion of the damage he takes becomes reflected on the archer tower right next to him. Theres even a problem in that example because if 2 defenses are the same distance from the knight, how does he determine which defense gets the reflection damage. Perhaps if he deals 40% of the damage he takes back on any defenses within his range so like maybe 5 tiles. As of now however you take the "range" out of ranged units by creating a troop that dispenses with the very things which are created for that purpose, namely, walls and distanced based defenses like xbows and archer towers. All things aside, i think there is promise with this idea but as it stands it flops as a potential new troop.

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That's the purpose, to deal damage back out of his range. And that was two many words, I only read the first three sentences.

wouldnt that be like the pekka?

This would kill an Inferno Tower on Single Target Mode!

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That's the purpose, to deal damage back out of his range. And that was two many words, I only read the first three sentences.

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First, its *too, not two lol. Second, thats my point exactly. Why would SC make walls and range units and what not if it is then going to turn around and make a unit that displaces their purpose entirely. It makes no sense.

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This would kill an Inferno Tower on Single Target Mode!

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It only reflects a portion of the damage, and the tower has more hitpoints

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First, its *too, not two lol. Second, thats my point exactly. Why would SC make walls and range units and what not if it is then going to turn around and make a unit that displaces their purpose entirely. It makes no sense.

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Sorry autocorrect, lol. But that's basically the thing that makes this unit unique.

Wow...100 posts and first page. Congrats Smasher