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Just had a convo w/ the clan about arch queen location, they brought up some good points of heroes bringing troop into the middle(towards the TH) looking to destroy the heroes, who otherwise would have headed in that direction. This has the clan questioning if we should or shouldn't plane heroes in the center, or maybe we should just place the queen their... knowing this what do u guys think ??
I always put my queen as central as possible. She can wreck havoc on lavaloons and hogs. In my opinion her range is her biggest advantage. Now the king is a different story. He has his uses but against many attacks in war, he won't slow attacks down much.
However, if you already have a defensive structure in the compartment where your Town Hall is, Golems and Loons will move in there anyway.
In most base designs, the core is the most dps intensive zone of the whole base. If you have two distractions, namely both heroes, they will have hell raining on them and not destroying any kind of defensive structure. My advice is to put your teslas in the center close to your heroes as you would have major offense destroying the distracted troops. Only do this if your teslas aren't supporting the lurability of the cc.
If you have your heroes, especially your AQ outside of the core, she will be easy to lure and making your base susceptible to Hog and Loon attacks.
tl;dr Keep your heroes in the core.
Not always. The corr isnt always the most intensive dps zone of the base. Teslas in core? :facepalm:Teslas can have a much better use outside of the core attacking hogs as they move around the base. If you have an anti 3* you don't a) have defenses in core and b) it's big enough so you can put the aq outside of core and the enemy still needs to shatter or cold blood.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePastor
You dont have defenses in the core, you have defenses in range of the core. From a TH9 perspective, combined max xbows are 150dps and Hidden Tesla combines damage is 348 dps which will fry hogs in the center. Teslas attacking hogs on the outside? Come on mate, the only way teslas are effective against hogs is if at least 2 of them are hitting them as a heal spell will be ineffective, if you know what you are doing with hogs, a tesla on the outside will have close to no effect on your raid as you will most likely expect it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lootenant
The archer queen is still pretty easy to lure with a shattered or cold blooded attack, however the army space required for this is generally in the range of 42-72 plus the use of heroes and if you have any anti-3* base a jump spell will also be required to kill AQ and CC troops. If you ask me? Thats a win. Heroes in the center.
I 99% attack from the side that archer queen is so i think both heroes must be centralized mate
But because what u said is true=they lure troops
i put one hero one to the left and one to the right but not to the center but,a bit more away(a layer of walls away) AND always to a different compartement
Anyway to make a long story short put them near the center of the base the pros ouweight the cons
I like the idea posted b4 this comment the best, stratigicly its most logical to put heroes towards the center on opposite sides, that way one may lure them in, but the other lures them out, however in my little Hero experiment I accidentally stumbled upon a stratigy that may change base design completely(if it hasn't already been thought of, if so I apologize). You could actually use hero location to lure troops into traps(bug bombs, spring traps, ect) but this is most effective when placing the Heros near the wall as it will be the first thing most enemy's target, instead of them attacking their origanl target, they draw all troops toward their location, if you stratigicly place your traps, they're bound to run into them. This can be very deadly to those who use wizards in their raids. But again, it may not be ideal, what do yall think ??
I like your idea, but you have to remeber that they will have to lure troops such as wizards as you say away from golem pathing for example. In order to do this you will have to experiment from war to war mainly and see how enemy troops react to variability in hero positioning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravenwood1
Sorry for clumping your thread before with the tesla thing and so on but i was explaining a mainstream strategy that occurs in bases with a large and wide core. Hero positioning will finally come down to what role you want them to play in your defence.
I'm only talking about th9 here, but If you're looking to defend for the 3 star, you are going to want a central queen. Even a level 1 queen can ruin a hog attack if she's not taken out prior to the hogs being deployed.
Now that there are tons of three star strategies out there it almost crucial to have an anti-3 base. The best way to do this is to have the town hall of centered and the queen and cc centered in the base. its also important to keep the air def at some what of a distance from the queen to be less susceptible to golavaloon.