Why .5 townhalls need to be fixed

Basically the idea behind TH 8.5 is to build a TH 9, but only upgrade offense (and maybe walls since walls count less in balancing) while leaving defenses at TH8 level, allowing you to draw weaker opponents. This makes sense because you can get 6 stars, but only give up 3, making offense more important than defense.

The way to fix it is to weigh war balancing more heavily toward offense. Something like (offensive score) + (defensive score/2) makes sense.

Also, offensive score should be determined only by your top 3 troops, because as I understand, a lot of these "unbeatable" clans are only maxing out a few troops they need for wars, and leaving the rest unleveled in order to draw weaker opponents. In other words, if you max loons, minions and hounds, and leave everything else at lvl 1, your score should be the same as someone who maxes everything.

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Originally Posted by Scuba061

Why should it be banned? Do you want to ban rushing too, making it a requirement that all buildings and troops must be maxed before moving to the next TH level? Because the ".5" thing is pretty much the maxer's compromise to rushing.

Now, I do think it's gaming the system for those who take it to an extreme and build infernos then cancel after war just to do it over again. But I honestly feel sorry for those people. I mean, is wasting time, resources, and real money really worth getting a favorable war matchup? Personally, I think you'd have to be completely brain-dead to do such a thing, but to each their own I suppose.

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Exactly. Just don't let rushers into your clan. Simple

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Originally Posted by The13thOne

Its not punishing the rushers. The thing is making it equal for the maxers. Would you consider it fair if a th8.5 came at a th8 with lavaloonion? Lavaloonion at th9 can wipe out most th9s. Th8's with their 3 ADs and max level 6 don't stand a chance.Th8.5 can do that. If they even it out, it will actually hurt their clan if they beat low players.

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How is it not fair? You have just as good of a chance of wrecking his base as he does yours. If you're a TH8 and think it's unfair a TH9 is attacking you, then I can't help you. You have larger issues with the game if you have problems with higher THs attacking lower THs with better troops.

It's obvious you don't get the gist of the ".5" TH strategy. All it does is prevent a new TH9 or TH10 from drawing matchups from those well above them that they have no hope of defeating. It does nothing to affect lower players in an unfair way.

It simply allows a new TH player to catch up to players on his own level.

Let these people who game the system have their fun. Its obvious they aren't enjoying the game enough to play it normally.

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Originally Posted by Scuba061

How is it not fair? You have just as good of a chance of wrecking his base as he does yours. If you're a TH8 and think it's unfair a TH9 is attacking you, then I can't help you. You have larger issues with the game if you have problems with higher THs attacking lower THs with better troops.

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Can you not read? There is nothing wrong with higher ths attacking lower townhalls. The problem is when there is no penalty. It works in normal clan war Ex. The number 1 player, a th10 attacks a th4, and wrecks him with barch. This means that the clan that the th10 is from's th4's have to attack a player that's at better than them, where they might not star at all. The th10 might have gotten an easy 3 star from the th4, but he both got bad loot and hurt his clan.
If a clan is drawing matchups where their mirrors are lower townhalls than them, they can wreck the lower townhalls, and it won't hurt their clan.

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Originally Posted by The13thOne

If a clan is drawing matchups where their mirrors are lower townhalls than them, they can wreck the lower townhalls, and it won't hurt their clan.

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The only issue with that is that it doesn't happen frequently. As a member of a clan that does .5 TH, I can assure you that doing .5 TH does not yield significantly better matchups. In our best matchup I have seen, our highest rank th8 was (for once) matched with another th8, and our th8.5 were matched against somewhat lower end th9. In fact, it would be a pleasant surprise as a max th8 to face a th8.5 :D
Now then, if we have th8 facing th9 (th9, NOT th8.5), that means that our opponents get favorably matched against us without using .5 TH, showing how negligible the effect must be. Winning against stronger clans is just a part of being a good war clan.
This is the same for th9, 9.5, and 10. Any clan with maxers just has to accept the fact that the top few of each TH level will more often than not be matched up with the opponent's bottom few of the next TH level, regardless of whether either side does .5 TH.
The real reason people do .5 TH is so they don't get ranked higher than people of their own clan with similar defenses and better troops. While matchups (clan vs clan) do account for offensive pwoer, the war page rank is determined soley by defense. Doing .5 TH ensures that the new, offensively weaker members of a TH level are also defensively ranked at the bottom.
Lastly, as already mentioned, a thX.5 can be smashed by a thX. It is not a one way advantage if this theoretical thX vs thX.5 match actually happens.
If you don't like the war page listing top to bottom by defense, then learn as a clan to plan attacks more creatively than, "everybody mirror." You shouldn't be doing that unless you want your max th9 facing infernos and your max th8 facing xbows and queen.

We have come up against a few of these. But we always wind up creaming them so it doesn't bug us. They have great armies and get more stars from us than most. But we tear up the weak bases so bad that more than makes up for the difference.

I don't see it as a problem that needs fixing. Those guys are hurting their own selves.

You would hate me. I'm a TH10 with level 2 wizard towers, level 4 walls, etc...but I know my priorities so I have 2 IT's and 3 x-bows. I win most defenses and all my regular elixir troops are max level. My entire account is to troll 9 year olds into raging when they attack me, lose 20 trophies, then I revenge them and take another 30 trophies.

In wars I still get paired up with an enemy #1 who is TH10 and usually has stronger defenses than I do. Most times I just 3 star the #2 and #3 guys instead of wasting my time 1 or 2 staring the #1 guy.

So basically, your complaining that those smart rushers are steamrolling those maxers (TH - 1)? I don't support this idea. If your a maxer then deal with it. Everyone has their own play style.

Take Note: Offense is included in matchmaking. If there is a Offense Ranking List then a smart rusher will definitely in higher position. Right now there is only a Defense Ranking List which is provided by the thing you called war map.