Remove Golemites

Hi.

Golem's job on COC is to tank damage. But, when they die, they split into Golemites, but doing that, Turrets lose him as target and search for new ones.

I think, instead of Golemites, Golems could have a new ability, Hardened Skin. Which would reduce all incoming damage from a Turret by 3/6/9/12/15?

Cannons would do 98-15= 83 damage per second for example.

Numbers may be weak or strong.

i don't think they will make such a drastic change.

The HP would be increased for simplisty sake. There is no damage reduction (yet) in CoC, nor do I see Supercell adding that into the game anytime soon since it would complicate the math needed to balance things.

A damage reduction would in effect treat the defence as if they were a level or more lower than they currently are, some more so than others.

To give an idea on how finally balanced things are, a person with a lvl4 Barcher army will have limited success, 1-2 stars, at taking out a TH7. With just the few points added to the Barbarian and Archer unit's health and damage when upgraded to level 5, the odds of wiping out a TH7 (aka 100% 3 star) increase dramatically verse the same bases with the same tactics.

So yeah, there would have to be a very good reason for a flat X amount of damage ignore feature to be put in game, since that suddenly changes the math of how things works in relation towards the unit.

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

The HP would be increased for simplisty sake. There is no damage reduction (yet) in CoC, nor do I see Supercell adding that into the game anytime soon since it would complicate the math needed to balance things.

A damage reduction would in effect treat the defence as if they were a level or more lower than they currently are, some more so than others.

To give an idea on how finally balanced things are, a person with a lvl4 Barcher army will have limited success, 1-2 stars, at taking out a TH7. With just the few points added to the Barbarian and Archer unit's health and damage when upgraded to level 5, the odds of wiping out a TH7 (aka 100% 3 star) increase dramatically verse the same bases with the same tactics.

So yeah, there would have to be a very good reason for a flat X amount of damage ignore feature to be put in game, since that suddenly changes the math of how things works in relation towards the unit.

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It would just be good against low damage Turrets and units like Skel, Mortairs and Archers.

Final idea is just the same tanky but with a different mechanic (that open space for new strategies, gameplay, etc).

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Originally Posted by Pinheiro

It would just be good against low damage Turrets and units like Skel, Mortairs and Archers.

Final idea is just the same tanky but with a different mechanic (that open space for new strategies, gameplay, etc).

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It maybe too good, as skeletons do so little damage, and archer towers now have doubled fire rate but half damage from the Winter Update, which basicly makes Arched towers even less effective against Golems if that was to be added.

Now if for some reason Supercell thought it was a good idea, I can't really argue against it, since it is thier game, and they have a vested interest in making the right choices on game balancing issues. (If they did not, they'd lose thier jobs.)

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Originally Posted by Pinheiro

Hi.

Golem's job on COC is to tank damage. But, when they die, they split into Golemites, but doing that, Turrets lose him as target and search for new ones.

I think, instead of Golemites, Golems could have a new ability, Hardened Skin. Which would reduce all incoming damage from a Turret by 3/6/9/12/15?

Cannons would do 98-15= 83 damage per second for example.

Numbers may be weak or strong.

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To reply to the bolder part, SC should just add that the def keeps targeting the golemites. No major change needed.

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

It maybe too good, as skeletons do so little damage, and archer towers now have doubled fire rate but half damage from the Winter Update, which basicly makes Arched towers even less effective against Golems if that was to be added.

Now if for some reason Supercell thought it was a good idea, I can't really argue against it, since it is thier game, and they have a vested interest in making the right choices on game balancing issues. (If they did not, they'd lose thier jobs.)

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But the damage decrease would be on the damage per second and not the damage per hit.

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Originally Posted by Pinheiro

But the damage decrease would be on the damage per second and not the damage per hit.

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That is not how traditional damage reduction works. Incoming Damage - Damage Resistance = Sustained Damage. That has to be done per hit, not calculated per second. If that is the case, they would, somehow, ignore the mortar damage entirely because of thier low DPS. I say 'somehow' because mathematically I don't know how you can do that in a simple manner.

That is why the pitifully small DPS of a Mortar is still effective, because it does spike damage. Just averaged out over the firing rate it, it doesn't do much... statistically.
*nothing*
*nothing*
*thoomp*
*nothing*
*BOOM* (massive damage)
*nothing*
*nothing*
*thoomp*
...and so on.

Rather than changing so much, they could just keep the cannon's favourite target as "golemite" . Not Golem, golemite. This wouldn't unbalance things as golemites aren't that strong (even spring traps work on them) and it's not like their favourite is golem which would make it really difficult on the offense side.
This would balance it as when they destroy the golems, their favourite targets appear, golemites and could just concentrate on them rather than increasing/decreasing the hp/damage. Also, if they don't target the golemites then they just become useless. The lava pups are surely important as even though they're weak, the air def's rate of fire is less so it does consume time. On the other hand, golemites are not even targeted by the cannons most of the time and that transformation is useless. In fact, i lose hope on the golems once they turn. This would work the same way and other defenses (arch tower, wiz, teslas) would target the way they do now, only the cannons which only target the ground troops.

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

That is not how traditional damage reduction works. Incoming Damage - Damage Resistance = Sustained Damage. That has to be done per hit, not calculated per second. If that is the case, they would, somehow, ignore the mortar damage entirely because of thier low DPS. I say 'somehow' because mathematically I don't know how you can do that in a simple manner.

That is why the pitifully small DPS of a Mortar is still effective, because it does spike damage. Just averaged out over the firing rate it, it doesn't do much... statistically.
*nothing*
*nothing*
*thoomp*
*nothing*
*BOOM* (massive damage)
*nothing*
*nothing*
*thoomp*
...and so on.

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That's basically the idea.

Or you want X-Bows to do zero damage on Golems?