Better loser bonus needed in wars.

That way we might get a little action here. These wimps gave up so early its ridiculous. Happened last war too. Granted we have them so pounded its hopeless for them but still I wish they would at least try to make it interesting. Maybe my new sub acct layout is not as good as I think it is. I don't know. How can I find out if no one attacks it?

If they put a little something on the table for these guys maybe they would find it interesting to at least go through the motions.

This might be our fault too. We like coordinating to see how far up the ladder we can three star everything right out the gate because we think it looks cool when we all come on like that. (you have to admit, its a great way to shake hands and say hello). But perhaps the statement we are trying to make we are making a little too well too early. Maybe we should wait and pick a time late in the war to pull that stunt.

But I think a little more in it for the clan that's getting beaten down might make the acti8on a little livelier.

Idk might cause for more war farming since they can get more loot from it but I see where you're coming from I would like more challenges in wars too.

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Originally Posted by chrispeterson

Idk might cause for more war farming since they can get more loot from it but I see where you're coming from I would like more challenges in wars too.

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War farmers are a little bit of a problem I admit. I am not sure what is worse, war farmers or unmotivated wimps.

I would like more bonus, there a really many clans that don't even put up a fight, I feel just because the losinformation long will not even cover their troop cost

Have had a few people admit they didn't attack because they felt we were losing too badly and didn't want to spend the resources. Thing was, if they attacked, we wouldn't have lost or lost that badly. With the Clan Perks and Clan XP system, it makes me want to smack people saying that. But I don't. I keep my temper and insist they attack so we can at least get some XP.

As for the OP's clan, doing a well coordinated mass attack is a rare thing. Usually people can't get that well organized, especially of spanning so many time zones. Also, I'm wondering what kind of war bases your clan has? Are they rushed bases, but rushed in a way to be Min-Maxed for war? Basicly, imagine TH9s and TH10s that just leveled up troop stuff first, and have moderately leveled up defences. It tends to screw up the Clan Matching algorithm and pairs them up with clans that are usually significantly lower in Town Hall levels. Even Rushed, the TH9s and TH10s are just too huge to attack effectively, as well as deal with the speical defence buildings they have (even if kept at level 1).

Ran into a clan like that, and saw first hand why people @#$%& about unfair matchups. The whole thing just wasn't right. Thankfully, that only tends to happen when the clan matching search goes on for hours. If I keep it from lasting that long (stopping and restarting after 10 mins), it doesn't go off and pick some weird @$$ clan that kinda sorta matches, but not quite, and says @#$% it, and pairs us up anyway.

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Anyway, back to the topic...
It is kind of hard to find a good defeated 'reward' , since it was stated that war farming could increase. However, given that the XP system has thresholds for bonus XP after a set percentage of stars, maybe have less of a reduction in bonus war loot for close matches. That way, people will still have some incentive to keep fighting, to at least get more of a reward.

Possibly, for a close war, instead of 100% winner and 20% loser, it would be 100% winner, 40% loser. A draw is 40%/40% after all, and if you are just a few stars or so from winning, you should get more for your effort (for a game to be fun, since this isn't real life after all).

Wouldnt say no to more loot when we lose a war --- but find it hard to agree fully - if they are not motivated by the xp for clan perks, then it would surely just increase the war farming issue.

(wish we met a few of these unmotivated clans - or even the war farming ones occasionaly - been months since we got mismatched in our favour, or matched with a non-trying clan)

I think the best we can do is have a 40% Bonus Loot reward for those close battles for the defeated, since after all the closest battles are draws and those are 40%/40% rewards for both sides. I think if the score is either several points shy of a draw, either on some arbitrary number or percentage, I think it would lessen the disapoitment and demotivating feeling of putting all that effort into fighting and getting the same amount of loot as if you did nothing. It would also be war farmer resistant, since effort has to be put in to effectively double the loot the lossing clan would normally get otherwise.

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

That way we might get a little action here. These cats gave up so early its ridiculous. Happened last war too. Granted we have them so pounded its hopeless for them but still I wish they would at least try to make it interesting. Maybe my new sub acct layout is not as good as I think it is. I don't know. How can I find out if no one attacks it?

If they put a little something on the table for these guys maybe they would find it interesting to at least go through the motions.

This might be our fault too. We like coordinating to see how far up the ladder we can three star everything right out the gate because we think it looks cool when we all come on like that. (you have to admit, its a great way to shake hands and say hello). But perhaps the statement we are trying to make we are making a little too well too early. Maybe we should wait and pick a time late in the war to pull that stunt.

But I think a little more in it for the clan that's getting beaten down might make the acti8on a little livelier.

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Changed it to make it forum-appropriate:p

Same loot for losers, but I think the loot for ties should be higher. Right now, I think it's at less than 50%, and I really think it should be at least 50%.

I think the fact that we get any war bonus when we lose is generous enough as it is.

No. Loser bonus that pays out to clans who give up? The only incentive from this would be war farming. with less care for winning.

Better to increase the winner bonus, and the draw bonus. Increase the average payout to increase interest in total. While it is possible to make an elixir profit from warring, I don't see it happen at the top end of the clan.


These weak clans who keep losing, sometimes they'll be matched against each other and win, and get a taste for winning.

Motivating a clan that is headed for defeat is one of the more meaningful challenges of leadership.


Three-starring every base from the bottom up has become standard procedure. We only miss a few stars at the top. Half the time, the other side does the same, and ~half of those times they win.

It is not so exciting when the other side doesn't turn up, or doesn't know what it is doing (gemmers), or its members depart the clan. But the solution is not to give them more loot.

Well, it depends what effect you want to happen in game. First off, pitch most real life logic out the window, it's no fun, and a fun game is what this is about. Getting bonus war loot regardless of winning or lossing is just going to happen. Just depends on amount.

Second, what goal do you want out of this? Do you want more or less people doing Clan Wars?

If you want less people doing wars, give less of a 'second prize' for the attempt, and discourage players that feel like they are unable to fund it out of the elite system of Clan Wars. If they can't stand the waste of loot when there is a loss, then tough. Suck it up and go about doing regular loot raids until you are good enough for the big boys.

If you want more people doing wars, give them a larger loot gain to recover some of the losses in thier attempt, and encourage more to try and feel less bitter about things being a waste of time and effort. Everyone should be able to enjoy doing Clan Wars, and not feel like it is a waste of time to even attempt.

I still say the most war farming resistant way of going about this is to give more loot on close battles. That way you have less people giving up part way through it, which hurts the enjoyment of the rest of the clan. Granted, you could kick people like that, but having a large clan, you can't reasonably cherry pick enough members to be in your clan to not have that happen. Also, it rewards good effort, since just doing bare minimum won't get you that extra bit of loot I'm suggesting.