So you've decided to protect your town hall..

...and what happens...well you get punished...

You get raided for big loot, you lose trophies, your vital resources, the Clan Castle troops are dead and your BK and AQ have a nap for a period of time, just when you were preparing to raid as well.

On the other hand you could just leave your Town Hall out there to be sniped and rarely have any of these problems and a shiny new 12 hour shield to boot.

So how about the game redresses the balance for all of those players who build a tough base, max their walls and intimidate the attacker into pressing the Next Button?

Simple solution, give the Next Button monies to the village that you decided not to attack. Easy income stream and a motivation to build a base that people don't even want to think about attacking...

Just imagine you log on after a sound night's sleep to find that you've had a couple of good defences - always handy to get a few trophies of those less sophisticated attackers - and 750 gold multiplied by the 30 passers-by who decided that you were, most definitely, not the base for them...

Badvoc - Innovations for a brighter tomorrow

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Just imagine you log on after a sound night's sleep to find that you've had a couple of good defences - always handy to get a few trophies of those less sophisticated attackers - and 750 gold multiplied by the 30 passers-by who decided that you were, most definitely, not the base for them...

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750 gold x 30 skips = 22,500 gold
22,500 gold - (150,000 gold x 3 attacks before you got a shield) = still not a reason to protect your TH

I appreciate where you are coming from but this is a drop in the bucket compared to what you will loose and only introduces that drop back into the larger economy. Not to say I don't support this but it is not the "simple solution" you think it is. Potentially part of the solution, but not nearly enough on it's own.

When considering how to promote defense you need to check those ideas against two key factors that are completely game breaking. 1) Will it make it harder to find a village worth attacking. If your idea makes it harder for ALL players to find loot it is a bad idea and will cause more nexting which is game breaking. This is why "clan bank" and lix-4-walls ideas are bad for the game without substantial additional changes. 2) Will it cause the defender to loose in minutes what it took them hours of continuous game play to acquire. If good defense simply leaves you vulnerable again to multiple full losses it is game breaking. This is why eliminating "free shields" is bad for the game without substantial additional changes.

Just food for thought. Your request is a common one and has merit but alone it I doubt it will make much difference.

This just motivates people to dump all their gold and elixir into their walls.

Face it, 9 times out of 10 you hit next not because you're intimidated by the base, but because he has ♥♥♥♥ loot.

All your idea does is reward players for not having any loot in their storage and that, my friend, is a bad thing.

I always think, those walls are near impossible to break with barch, not those defences are tough. The walls do count, but if you have enough loot I'll still see if I can grab some. Even if your farming I'll grab loot.

I do think that both your comments are extremely valid but would just add that the issue that players perceive is that there are not enough resources in the game.

If someone is nexting 200k away before hitting a target, as other threads seem to suggest, then that is 200k that is not available for anyone to raid.

If these funds went to the village that was passed over for attack then they not only stay in the game but they will also, at the same time, create a more attractive village to raid as over the course of 8 hours a fund will have built that may be worth having a go for...

Perhaps the game could give the village a multiple of the Next value as a reward for having a base that is not instantly sniping fodder...

Regarding the walls point, I do see what you mean but let's face it if you dump all of your resources into walls then you will never save for a more substantial upgrade and will therefore be somewhat self restricting in the development of your town?

Just debating the points guys

Badvoc
Allons-y Clan

Nice attempt, but the defence issue is a tough problem to crack, believe me. No one feature will give you the results you want.

That reminds me. Trying out, again, an idea where I leave my mines and collectors untouched so I get Barcher-ed and get a chance to get a defence win while likely getting a shield, rather than hit by a base breaking storage raider, and my Dark Elixir getting tapped into. Means weaker bases are attacking me, and can attack back at my leisure.

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Dumping into walls is usually done to put excess loot into something useful, and reduce the threat profile of yourself by keeping stored resources down to a minimum. Usually, just before or just after hitting the lootable cap, you have enough gold or elixir to pay for an upgrade, but then look optimal to be looted. This is why people tend to do raiding binges, since being online prevents being raided, and if they can get the loot before the 6 hour forced break, they can get what they need, spend the loot, and keep losses low.

Perfectly reasonable on an individual level, but horrible in respect for gameplay for a multiplayer raiding game like this.

Just out of interest, are you THE Warren James...

http://www.broadstreetmall.com/files...ren/warren.jpg

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Just out of interest, are you THE Warren James...

http://www.broadstreetmall.com/files...ren/warren.jpg

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Wow! No, ha XD I'm not. But I get looted as if I was. :rolleyes:

Warren James is a mix of a sound-a-like of an old net name (not saying what) which gives Warren, and my real life first name, James. Never knew that even existed.

I agree, we do need another way to get gold. So many people just dump gold into walls and traps. Please post on my thread about the idea I have.

no I LIKE the stupid bases. why would I want to give them an incentive to build a bigger better base? why?