Country Flag removal

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March 24th, 2015
Drackos

Country Flag removal
Poll results:
70% out of 100 users don't care for them. The other 30% can be pleased by simply adding the alternative listed below
Take the survey: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-country-flags

Why remove the country flags? ( Not fully; keep reading)

The current country flags has resulted in many users coming to the forum unhappy they don't have their flag. And the fact to the matter is; there isn't enough room to add almost 200 flags. I did a survey and 70% of people said they don't really care for them. And the other percentages is those who use them to fill the base for spawn points or as a bank. So rather than add all flags; we could simply remove them or do the alternative options below:

Alternatives

Allowing users to place one on the townhall for their country. (would be like a badge/sheild.)
Having 1 flag that you can choose what country for it to represent. It could be purchased for 500k and only be purchased once.

All flags be replaced with new ones and option 1 or 2 added.

Flags for example: (in progress.)
Sandwich
http://i.imgur.com/xSh48Oe.jpg
Pekka
http://i.imgur.com/Q5S6JCV.jpg
Valk
http://i.imgur.com/6PuxA3B.jpg
Larry
http://i.imgur.com/oO63lYN.jpg
Generic sayings
http://i.imgur.com/L0dRsjS.jpg

What happens to all my money I spent on them?
The flags could be sold at full price for a limited time (a special event.) or the current flags could be replaced with more origional flags that are none country related.
March 24th, 2015
Monto6

Quote:

Originally Posted by GanjaSandwich

Let's face it; the idea that new flags are going go be added is focussed on country's. Not the general flag idea (a flag with skull, a flag with wings etc..) And as it is now; the game is very popular internationally. So you have a CONSTANT flow of users here requesting their country flag based off the fact others have it.

i suggest the removal of country flags and the editon of new flags (non-country descriptive) so the idea of flags still exist but isn't revolved around country's. This will encourage players to suggests original flags and might even have people come up with some really crazy ones. As it stands right now; they serve no real purpose but to fill up space.

you don't know how much i want to have my country flag on my village

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...ela%20flag.png
March 24th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monto6

you don't know how much i want to have my country flag on my village

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...ela%20flag.png

I hope this was implied with sarcasm.

Your avatar is that of a image made for my wizard thread. I enjoy your signature :)
March 24th, 2015
WarrenJames

Maybe split the difference, and have 2-4 'National Flags' that can have thier looks changed on the fly, and then have these other flag ideas? That way people can get the single to several key National flags they want without looking like some United Nations flag park.

Can convert 2-4 of the national flags, and then repurpose the slots of the others for those speical flags. Have it where there is a week or two long event where flag selling is the same as flag buying to help easy people's miffed feelings of lossing the UN flag park look.
March 24th, 2015
Monto6

Quote:

Originally Posted by GanjaSandwich

I hope this was implied with sarcasm.

ofcouse not... what if i tell you u.s.a flag is ugly and that the current model must be a sarcasm and was a lie this entire life?
March 24th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monto6

ofcouse not... what if i tell you u.s.a flag is ugly and that the current model must be a sarcasm and was a lie this entire life?

Read my edited post

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarrenJames

Maybe split the difference, and have 2-4 'National Flags' that can have thier looks changed on the fly, and then have these other flag ideas? That way people can get the single to several key National flags they want without looking like some United Nations flag park.

Can convert 2-4 of the national flags, and then repurpose the slots of the others for those speical flags. Have it where there is a week or two long event where flag selling is the same as flag buying to help easy people's miffed feelings of lossing the UN flag park look.

Added to the thread :)
March 24th, 2015
awesomness2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganjasandwich

let's face it; the idea that new flags are going go be added is focussed on country's. Not the general flag idea (a flag with skull, a flag with wings etc..) and as it is now; the game is very popular internationally. So you have a constant flow of users here requesting their country flag based off the fact others have it.

I suggest the removal of country flags and the editon of new flags (non-country descriptive) so the idea of flags still exist but isn't revolved around country's. This will encourage players to suggests original flags and might even have people come up with some really crazy ones. As it stands right now; they serve no real purpose but to fill up space.

99% of the users would rather have original flags than a country flag that represents one place.

http://i.imgur.com/6aj9u5f.jpg

flags like that would be much better than a flag of a country.

i want this flag. Now.
March 24th, 2015
Monto6

Quote:

Originally Posted by GanjaSandwich

Your avatar is that of a image made for my wizard thread. Please remove it.

why? i actually love the idea of wizard Level7 + wizard tower Level9 and the model u suggested for it thats why i put it there otherwise i wouldn't.
March 24th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monto6

why? i actually love the idea of wizard Level7 + wizard tower Level9 and the model u suggested for it thats why i put it there otherwise i wouldn't.

Glad you like the idea :) it did take a long time. Feel free to comment on this idea.
March 24th, 2015
webbie

I would much rather have my country flag then any other generic flag.
March 24th, 2015
TimothyH97

I kindly disagree.

There are only SO many countries in the world, so when SC gets a flag for every one of them, we will be ok. I think there should be an entire team devoted to only making flags. I want a rebel (confederate) flag on my village so bad, I would pay 4,5000,000 gold or 500 gems to have one. Eventually, they would just have to make a search bar in the decorations tab to find your flag. and there should be a maximum amount of flags one person can have.
March 24th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by webbie

I would much rather have my country flag then any other generic flag.

That makes no sense as country flags are generic. It's not fair 25 countrys get flags but the other 170 do not.

I could care care less about flags. They don't really belong in a medival
type game. Players buy them all so you're not even representing your country. I'll rather have a sandwich flag or a troop flag or something creative and non-country specific if flags are going to stay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimothyH97

I kindly disagree.

There are only SO many countries in the world, so when SC gets a flag for every one of them, we will be ok. I think there should be an entire team devoted to only making flags. I want a rebel (confederate) flag on my village so bad, I would pay 4,5000,000 gold or 500 gems to have one. Eventually, they would just have to make a search bar in the decorations tab to find your flag. and there should be a maximum amount of flags one person can have.

Right. Adding 150 flags and a search bar is the best way to go........
March 24th, 2015
WarrenJames

Graphic generation of a flag isn't hard. The 'hardest' part is applying the flag image texture map to thier 3D flag template, and then render the image for it so is a nice little animated gif for the CoC app to use.

The only issue is, what.. 260 flags(?) all animated. So even if each flag is small, thanks to image compression tricks, that is still that small size multiplied 100 to 200 times, depending on how the group of files are stored and compressed.

If we are having national flags, all of them, unless Supercell thinks they can pull off the size to be worth it, it may have to be an image still, so it takes up even less space, and be more practical at storing on people's device clients.
March 24th, 2015
ColonelAwesome

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimothyH97

I kindly disagree.

There are only SO many countries in the world, so when SC gets a flag for every one of them, we will be ok. I think there should be an entire team devoted to only making flags. I want a rebel (confederate) flag on my village so bad, I would pay 4,5000,000 gold or 500 gems to have one. Eventually, they would just have to make a search bar in the decorations tab to find your flag. and there should be a maximum amount of flags one person can have.

You want a confederate flag on your base? I assume you are one of those people who live in Texas and also want one on your liscense plate? To everybody who doesn't get that reference; http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/23/us...exas.html?_r=0
March 25th, 2015
Lyle44

Quote:

Originally Posted by GanjaSandwich

I suggest the removal of country flags and the editon of new flags (non-country descriptive) so the idea of flags still exist but isn't revolved around country's.

Completely agree with you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarrenJames

Graphic generation of a flag isn't hard. The 'hardest' part is applying the flag image texture map to thier 3D flag template, and then render the image for it so is a nice little animated gif for the CoC app to use.

The only issue is, what.. 260 flags(?) all animated. So even if each flag is small, thanks to image compression tricks, that is still that small size multiplied 100 to 200 times, depending on how the group of files are stored and compressed.

If we are having national flags, all of them, unless Supercell thinks they can pull off the size to be worth it, it may have to be an image still, so it takes up even less space, and be more practical at storing on people's device clients.

I think it would be cool if you could buy a clan flag. Although it would be difficult to do with all that.
March 25th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarrenJames

Graphic generation of a flag isn't hard. The 'hardest' part is applying the flag image texture map to thier 3D flag template, and then render the image for it so is a nice little animated gif for the CoC app to use.

The only issue is, what.. 260 flags(?) all animated. So even if each flag is small, thanks to image compression tricks, that is still that small size multiplied 100 to 200 times, depending on how the group of files are stored and compressed.

If we are having national flags, all of them, unless Supercell thinks they can pull off the size to be worth it, it may have to be an image still, so it takes up even less space, and be more practical at storing on people's device clients.

I'm thinking players could just choose a badge on the Townhal (like when you got the red sheild for 5$ donation towards als) and this badge show their country if they realt want to. Then you can remove all flags.
March 25th, 2015
HydroPenguin

I already suggested an idea like this... But I propose that turn them into a rare obstacle for the same price (100k gold).
March 25th, 2015
WarrenJames

I'm not sure how they piece together the flags, code wise (as in are the flags one object, or one generic flap pole with a different flag sprite), but even if it is just a set of flags to be put on a pole, that is still quite a few animated frames. If my guess of 6 to 8 frames is right, that means it is 6 (or 8) times over 260 flags. That maybe close to the frame count for the entire animated sprite library of the game currently! In mean there is only so many frames needed for a running barbarian (in a few fixed view angles), and attack animations, and only so many other units to multiply that against. I think the Dragon has the most, since based on the lines at the base of the wings, they could be using 3 sprites, one for each wing, and then the body.

Putting it in that perspective, and the fact that not all the flags will be used very much at all, it is easy to see why Supercell can be discouraged in just adding all the flags, assuming a good user interface was made to manage them.

You know what... Some phones can take the space. So why not have Supercell offer detailed graphics packs, or even flag packs, for people to use? It would be like an ad on that players can download, either in-game, or via the iTunes/Google Play store.
March 25th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarrenJames

I'm not sure how they piece together the flags, code wise (as in are the flags one object, or one generic flap pole with a different flag sprite), but even if it is just a set of flags to be put on a pole, that is still quite a few animated frames. If my guess of 6 to 8 frames is right, that means it is 6 (or 8) times over 260 flags. That maybe close to the frame count for the entire animated sprite library of the game currently! In mean there is only so many frames needed for a running barbarian (in a few fixed view angles), and attack animations, and only so many other units to multiply that against. I think the Dragon has the most, since based on the lines at the base of the wings, they could be using 3 sprites, one for each wing, and then the body.

Putting it in that perspective, and the fact that not all the flags will be used very much at all, it is easy to see why Supercell can be discouraged in just adding all the flags, assuming a good user interface was made to manage them.

You know what... Some phones can take the space. So why not have Supercell offer detailed graphics packs, or even flag packs, for people to use? It would be like an ad on that players can download, either in-game, or via the iTunes/Google Play store.

I think it's easier to just remove them as a whole. If a small percentage like flags; then that small percentage will have to suck it up in my op. It's just gotten to the point where no flag ideas are even worth while and all it is "add my country" when flags so come in other ways.
March 25th, 2015
TimothyH97

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

You want a confederate flag on your base? I assume you are one of those people who live in Texas and also want one on your liscense plate? To everybody who doesn't get that reference; http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/23/us...exas.html?_r=0

No actually. If you check my location. It says im in North Carolina. I fly that flag from the bed of my truck too. And anywhere else for that matter. Even my sig.

If i got my way all my barbs would be wearing grey uniforms, and would make a high pitched screeching sound as they ran towards the enemy base....lol
March 25th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimothyH97

No actually. If you check my location. It says im in North Carolina. I fly that flag from the bed of my truck too. And anywhere else for that matter. Even my sig.

If i got my way all my barbs would be wearing grey uniforms, and would make a high pitched screeching sound as they ran towards the enemy base....lol

I'm also in northcarolina and you don't see me requesting for said flag. That flag is actually offensive in other places if I do recall correctly
March 25th, 2015
TimothyH97

Quote:

Originally Posted by GanjaSandwich

I'm also in northcarolina and you don't see me requesting for said flag. That flag is actually offensive in other places if I do recall correctly

Offensive where.... To who???

The northern states????....duh. If the north doesn't want to see my rebel flag....STAY IN THE NORTH!!!!!!!!
March 25th, 2015
firestar123

So what if I already bought It's?
March 25th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by firestar123

So what if I already bought It's?

WarrenJames had a great idea. The flags being removed (if replaced.) They will be sold at full price for a week so you can replace them withy he new flags

If no flags are added; all old flags will be sold at the purchase price (fair in my op.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimothyH97

Offensive where.... To who???

The northern states????....duh. If the north doesn't want to see my rebel flag....STAY IN THE NORTH!!!!!!!!

Considering the confederate flag use to represent slavery. It's offensive.
March 25th, 2015
Epthian

Quote:

Originally Posted by GanjaSandwich

New aditions:
1.Flag alternatives

My point:
Let's face it; the idea that new flags are going go be added is focussed on country's. Not the general flag idea (a flag with skull, a flag with wings etc..) And as it is now; the game is very popular internationally. So you have a CONSTANT flow of users here requesting their country flag based off the fact others have it.

i suggest the removal of country flags and the editon of new flags (non-country descriptive) so the idea of flags still exist but isn't revolved around country's. This will encourage players to suggests original flags and might even have people come up with some really crazy ones. As it stands right now; they serve no real purpose but to fill up space.

99% of the users would rather have original flags than a country flag that represents one place.

http://i.imgur.com/6Aj9U5f.jpg

Flags like that would be much better than a flag of a countrY

Flags will be sold at purchased price if removed.

Flag Alternative:
Rather than keep the national flags; players can display their location flag based off their language settings or location. It wouod look similar to the red sheild you got a few months back for a 5$+ donation. This will allow the flags to be changed (removed/replace with original non-country flags.) and allow those players who seem to have a lot of nationalism in a video game to be satisfied.

He also had a good idea

99% seriously?! I dont think so
March 25th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epthian

99% seriously?! I dont think so

Considering there are a vast amount of players. There is only a fraction who really cares that much about flags. I'm quite sure you would rather have your country flag represented on your townhall and more artistic flags to use.

Didnt read to the bottom huh?
March 25th, 2015
Fanboy40

Quote:

Originally Posted by GanjaSandwich

Take the survey: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-country-flags
New aditions:
1.Flag alternatives

My point:
Let's face it; the idea that new flags are going go be added is focussed on country's. Not the general flag idea (a flag with skull, a flag with wings etc..) And as it is now; the game is very popular internationally. So you have a CONSTANT flow of users here requesting their country flag based off the fact others have it.

i suggest the removal of country flags and the editon of new flags (non-country descriptive) so the idea of flags still exist but isn't revolved around country's. This will encourage players to suggests original flags and might even have people come up with some really crazy ones. As it stands right now; they serve no real purpose but to fill up space
I will survey users to see how many really care about flags on the game.

http://i.imgur.com/6Aj9U5f.jpg

Flags like that would be much better than a flag of a countrY that doesn't represent the 150 left out.

Flags will be sold at purchased price if removed.

Flag Alternative:
Rather than keep the national flags; players can display their location flag based off their language settings or location. It wouod look similar to the red sheild you got a few months back for a 5$+ donation. This will allow the flags to be changed (removed/replace with original non-country flags.) and allow those players who seem to have a lot of nationalism in a video game to be satisfied.

He also had a good idea

So because you dont like looking at flag request threads (which you have to click on to view lol) you want to remove all of our flags, lol maybe its time to lay of the drugs:smirk:
March 25th, 2015
Medici

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monto6

you don't know how much i want to have my country flag on my village

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...ela%20flag.png

You and 2 million others. That's the point. You only want it because others have theirs and you can't have one. Thus, remove it altogether, problem solved.
March 25th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fanboy40

So because you dont like looking at flag request threads (which you have to click on to view lol) you want to remove all of our flags, lol maybe its time to lay of the drugs:smirk:

No; I want them removed because they're useless and unfair to the 150 other countries and users who come here to request them.
March 25th, 2015
OamnraML

I don't really care about flags though it'll be nice to have a flag belong to my country. But I don't see the whole point for flags. Even in some clan description, though originate maybe from an asian country, they put it from russia or other country that is not actually where they are really from.

So why care so much, when the clan description doesn't even tell where the clan originated from.

And ganjasandwich.. GANJA? Really? Lol..
March 25th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by OamnraML

I don't really care about flags though it'll be nice to have a flag belong to my country. But I don't see the whole point for flags. Even in some clan description, though originate maybe from an asian country, they put it from russia or other country that is not actually where they are really from.

So why care so much, when the clan description doesn't even tell where the clan originated from.

And ganjasandwich.. GANJA? Really? Lol..

Yeah exactly; they have no real value other than take up space and gold.

Whats with people focussing on my name....
March 25th, 2015
fivefivesix

Quote:

Originally Posted by GanjaSandwich

I understand you may enjoy my idea; but the art work you are using was made for a thread and Id rather keep it such way. Pm me so it's in private.

You probably shouldn't have posted it without a copyright and a watermark.
March 25th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by fivefivesix

You probably shouldn't have posted it without a copyright and a watermark.

That issue has been solved :) he used it and added a link in his sig.

Feel free to post your op on the idea.
March 25th, 2015
firestar123

Quote:

Originally Posted by fivefivesix

You probably shouldn't have posted it without a copyright and a watermark.

Who says he didn't have one? Just really small font in white.
March 25th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by firestar123

I love all your ideas!

Thanks for support :)
March 25th, 2015
WarrenJames

Maybe replace the flags as static banners? Ones that can be switched to any national flag? That would reduce the file size for the 260+ flags and make it a much smaller % of the totaly graphics library.

Kind of wish we had some reliable source as to how much is in the graphics library of the game, and how having all the national flags would measure up to that. To me, that would help put arguments to rest, since I would have more to cite than just guessing as an experienced, but technically amateur, computer nerd.
March 26th, 2015
Drackos

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarrenJames

Maybe replace the flags as static banners? Ones that can be switched to any national flag? That would reduce the file size for the 260+ flags and make it a much smaller % of the totaly graphics library.

Kind of wish we had some reliable source as to how much is in the graphics library of the game, and how having all the national flags would measure up to that. To me, that would help put arguments to rest, since I would have more to cite than just guessing as an experienced, but technically amateur, computer nerd.

Thanks for the interest in the idea. I have a few ideas and I'll be re-editing the thread here shortly. I'll send you a pm or vm or you can just reply back to the new information.
March 27th, 2015
legoman7409

I agree. Too many countries get left out. I wouldn't mind some new non-national flags. The th badge wouldn't be bad either.

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