New troop: VOLCANO MAGE!

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July 14th, 2015
Coolbro20

Opps forgot to put link in - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...28More-Tier%29
July 14th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by Antdroid

Still the best troop idea......

Thanks! I'm glad you still like it :)

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

By far the best idea on the Forums.

Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by Coolbro20

Cant argue with that! (not that I ever will/have)

Thanks, again...:smirk:

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Originally Posted by Nolanvw

I agree with the others that it is the best troop idea but it still seems to be weak when looked at by my healer example. Although it isn't a perfect example since the defenses will be killed off faster then if a healer is with the troops, it still appears to be weak. I think to be the most powerful troop in the game you need to increase the range, increase the hitpoints (again) or decrease housing space from 14 to 12.

Ok, I will decrease the housing space from 14 back to its original space of 12. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Coolbro20

Hey Anthony u are the best troop designer/make I've ever seen! I've made a troop and I want to have your opinion on it!

Thanks, again...again :smirk:

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Originally Posted by Coolbro20

Opps forgot to put link in - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...28More-Tier%29

No problem!
July 14th, 2015
Antdroid

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Originally Posted by Coolbro20

Opps forgot to put link in - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...28More-Tier%29

Needs better grammar......
July 15th, 2015
jaronhudson15

Vince this idea is looking very well done. This troop is getting so much support from everyone, looks like we have a new troop for Clash of Clans. Have ya' gotten any news from Supercell about your idea yet? Because I can't wait to see this troop in action some day. This troop would be a great addition to the game, it fits the theme perfectly, and seems very unique now that certain changes have been made. This just seems like a troop that would be in Clash of Clans.
July 15th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Vince this idea is looking very well done. This troop is getting so much support from everyone, looks like we have a new troop for Clash of Clans. Have ya' gotten any news from Supercell about your idea yet? Because I can't wait to see this troop in action some day. This troop would be a great addition to the game, it fits the theme perfectly, and seems very unique now that certain changes have been made. This just seems like a troop that would be in Clash of Clans.

Thank you. It would be nice to hear some Supercell feedback :rolleyes: I know they must have seen it by now with all the responses it's gotten.

Thanks, I'm glad you like it, and I agree! Here's to hoping it will be in an update sometime soon! :smirk:
July 15th, 2015
jaronhudson15

Gonna revive this thread. What is it doing with these lowly Page 2 Threads?
July 15th, 2015
Antdroid

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Gonna revive this thread. What is it doing with these lowly Page 2 Threads?

Finally something positive..... Still the best troop maker EVER!!:smirk:
July 16th, 2015
jaronhudson15

Back to the top we go!
July 16th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Gonna revive this thread. What is it doing with these lowly Page 2 Threads?

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Originally Posted by Antdroid

Finally something positive..... Still the best troop maker EVER!!:smirk:

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Back to the top we go!

Thank you guys! I'm glad you still support the idea :smirk:
July 16th, 2015
Antdroid

With the Volcano Spell, this could deal tons of damage...
July 16th, 2015
david0347

Volcano Mage

The Volcano Mage seems like a really awesome idea other than it looking so close to the wizards. In my opinion it wouldn't feel like a new unit, just an update to the original wizards. If it was something else with a new concept I think it would fit better. Other than that it is a cool idea just needs a little bit of updating:)
July 17th, 2015
Nolanvw

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Originally Posted by Antdroid

With the Volcano Spell, this could deal tons of damage...

Never heard of th volcano spell. :confused:
July 17th, 2015
Jackdopp

This is a very popular thread, not a bad idea either, just needs a name change
July 17th, 2015
Theking8133

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Originally Posted by Nolanvw

Never heard of th volcano spell. :confused:

My guess is that its a thinly veiled advertisement for one of his ideas.
July 17th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by Antdroid

With the Volcano Spell, this could deal tons of damage...

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Originally Posted by david0347

The Volcano Mage seems like a really awesome idea other than it looking so close to the wizards. In my opinion it wouldn't feel like a new unit, just an update to the original wizards. If it was something else with a new concept I think it would fit better. Other than that it is a cool idea just needs a little bit of updating:)

Thanks. How is it not different? It has its own special ability and nothing is the same besides the concept art. You do realize that's just a rough sketch right? Thanks, but I feel like you didn't read the thread. :straightface:

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Originally Posted by Nolanvw

Never heard of th volcano spell. :confused:

I think he means the inferno spell. And yes, I agree, the two ideas were meant to go very well together.

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Originally Posted by Jackdopp

This is a very popular thread, not a bad idea either, just needs a name change

Thanks. Man, I wish someone would read at least some of the previous comments though, :smirk:

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Originally Posted by Theking8133

My guess is that its a thinly veiled advertisement for one of his ideas.

I think he was talking about my Inferno Spell.
July 17th, 2015
BRLESNAR

Your idea is great but I actually would appreciate it if you could send me the graphics of a serpent and a dark barracks 8 which represents snakes.
July 17th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by BRLESNAR

Your idea is great but I actually would appreciate it if you could send me the graphics of a serpent and a dark barracks 8 which represents snakes.

Thanks, but did you read the thread? I said that I was not the one who made the artwork. :straightface:
July 18th, 2015
jaronhudson15

Must revive. Down in page two? C'mon now.
July 18th, 2015
Jahboy777

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Must revive. Down in page two? C'mon now.

Although i I do love this troop and can't wait to see it in the game, at this point it doesn't need to be up here anymore.
SC is well aware of this troop and either working on it already or has already dismissed it.
Let new ideas get a little bit of show time on the front page

Edit: That is unless you actually have something to say
July 18th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by Jahboy777

Although i I do love this troop and can't wait to see it in the game, at this point it doesn't need to be up here anymore.
SC is well aware of this troop and either working on it already or has already dismissed it.
Let new ideas get a little bit of show time on the front page

Edit: That is unless you actually have something to say

I agree, but it's nice to see so many people like this troop that much :)

Here's what's new!
*Hitpoints greatly increased across all levels
*Research time for level 2 greatly increased
July 18th, 2015
Azizjon

Hey Anthony!! I have a tons of ideas! But I dont have a partner to work with me! So. May be we can work together (1brain is smart but 2 brains are ×2 smarter). What do you say!?
July 18th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by Azizjon

Hey Anthony!! I have a tons of ideas! But I dont have a partner to work with me! So. May be we can work together (1brain is smart but 2 brains are ×2 smarter). What do you say!?

PM me or VM me and I'll be glad to hear some of your ideas. :) What do you think about the Volcano Mage?
July 18th, 2015
Azizjon

Thats Pretty cool+Unique like some of my ideas.
July 18th, 2015
Azizjon

What is PM and VM!?
July 18th, 2015
GeralFerald

I love this idea! I also have some ideas for some troops and spells and I found some good ones on the forums that were pretty interesting like the anti splash damage spell and the cold finger defense but this is one of the best ideas I've seen on the forums! Great Job!
July 18th, 2015
jonnguy2014

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Originally Posted by Azizjon

What is PM and VM!?

Private and Visitor Messages. VM also stands for Volcano Mage:smirk:
LONG LIVE THE VOLCANO MAGE!!!
Soon his Inferno Spell will pass Lukmin's Range Spell...
Double Crown...
AnthonyVince is the Mastermind of New Troop and Spell Ideas
IDEA GUY 2.0!!!
July 18th, 2015
Nolanvw

Anthony I know this is dumb but rate your own thread and rate it five stars. It's ridiculous that it's rated four stars still. Everyone vote!
July 18th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by Azizjon

Thats Pretty cool+Unique like some of my ideas.

Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by Azizjon

What is PM and VM!?

Explanation is below :smirk:

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Originally Posted by jonnguy2014

Private and Visitor Messages. VM also stands for Volcano Mage:smirk:
LONG LIVE THE VOLCANO MAGE!!!
Soon his Inferno Spell will pass Lukmin's Range Spell...
Double Crown...
AnthonyVince is the Mastermind of New Troop and Spell Ideas
IDEA GUY 2.0!!!

I know, it would be so cool if I were the creator of the most popular forum troop and spell idea...:p

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Originally Posted by Nolanvw

Anthony I know this is dumb but rate your own thread and rate it five stars. It's ridiculous that it's rated four stars still. Everyone vote!

I did a while back after it was rated four stars. The first two months it had 5 stars, but eventually the haters came I guess. :p Yes, it would be great if this thread was returned back to a 5-star rating!
July 19th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by jonnguy2014

Just voted it five stars, and dang, my vote was the one...

Thanks, it's nice to see it back at 5 stars again :)

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Originally Posted by jonnguy2014

I personally think 250 HP is a bit much, 220-225 I think would be better

HP lowered! I agree that was a little bit too much.
July 19th, 2015
SoldierNumber2178281828

This is good and should be easy for them to program. But they'd change it way too much info.
July 19th, 2015
Jackdopp

Awesome

I LOVE THIS TROOP! Just needs a name change (Supercell ruled out mages) and make it so that inferno spells (you know what they are) Give them 1.5x the hp.
July 19th, 2015
HoopsU

Sounds like a good idea, but I am not a fan of the name.

Cool idea, though!!!
July 19th, 2015
Hasoom

Awesome idea!

Nice idea! Obviously put lots of thought into it. Maybe just put it between witches and lava hound or between golem and witch. Didn't think it would be a troop that should be more expensive than lava hounds
July 19th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by SoldierNumber2178281828

This is good and should be easy for them to program. But they'd change it way too much info.

Thanks, you're saying my thread is too detailed? That's what usually makes Supercell want to read it, knowing you put a lot of time into it :smirk:

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Originally Posted by Jackdopp

I LOVE THIS TROOP! Just needs a name change (Supercell ruled out mages) and make it so that inferno spells (you know what they are) Give them 1.5x the hp.

Thanks yous so much! :smirk: I don't want to add any relationship with the Inferno Spell yet though because neither are in game :smirk:

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Originally Posted by HoopsU

Sounds like a good idea, but I am not a fan of the name.

Cool idea, though!!!

Thank you! As I have said before, the name is just the current name, it can be changed at any time.

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Originally Posted by Hasoom

Nice idea! Obviously put lots of thought into it. Maybe just put it between witches and lava hound or between golem and witch. Didn't think it would be a troop that should be more expensive than lava hounds

Thanks! To my knowledge, this troop costs less than a Lava Hound :confused:
July 19th, 2015
DatGrapefruit

so why does this get so many comments that are good and my inferno archer gets all bad ones?
July 19th, 2015
devil9394

Nice idea of a new dark troop, I see you put a lot of effort into making this thread a complete one, and also nice images :) I don't really have any comments to make about it, it looks really good and the stats are well thought. Just a question I have, when you say it can hit 4 buildings at once, and it has a 45dmg/attack at max level, does it mean each of the buildings will get 11.25dmg? Or each gets a 45?
July 19th, 2015
Theking8133

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Originally Posted by DatGrapefruit

so why does this get so many comments that are good and my inferno archer gets all bad ones?

Well, probably because the inferno archer is bad. That just tends to be what negative comments mean.

However, I've seen plenty of good ideas shut down because they weren't about what was posted. Please, keep your question about your inferno archer on your inferno archer page. I don't want this to join the "Shut Down Thread" club.
July 20th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by DatGrapefruit

so why does this get so many comments that are good and my inferno archer gets all bad ones?

I would say because people seem to like this idea :smirk:

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Originally Posted by devil9394

Nice idea of a new dark troop, I see you put a lot of effort into making this thread a complete one, and also nice images :) I don't really have any comments to make about it, it looks really good and the stats are well thought. Just a question I have, when you say it can hit 4 buildings at once, and it has a 45dmg/attack at max level, does it mean each of the buildings will get 11.25dmg? Or each gets a 45?

Thanks yous very much. No, each building will get 45. Thinking back, I will probably decrease the damage, I totally forgot he can affect 4 buildings at once. :smirk:

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Originally Posted by Theking8133

Well, probably because the inferno archer is bad. That just tends to be what negative comments mean.

However, I've seen plenty of good ideas shut down because they weren't about what was posted. Please, keep your question about your inferno archer on your inferno archer page. I don't want this to join the "Shut Down Thread" club.

Yes, please keep this thread on topic ;)

Here's what's new!
*Fixes in the "Army compositions" section to make it more understandable
*Damage greatly decreased at all levels! But remember, the Mage affects four buildings at a time so his DPS maybe 25, but he's causing up to 100 damage per second on his own!
*New trivia/FAQ about that ^^^
*Five new defensive strategies! Completely new ways to set up your base that are more descriptive than the two old ones!
July 21st, 2015
jaronhudson15

Hmm looked through the whole thread again, and looked at the time it took to make this troop. Would anyone want to wait (20 minutes) for a troop that takes up 12 spaces, does little DPS, and acts more like a supportive troop by weakening other structures for the rest of the army? Maybe we could lower that a little, perhaps? I'll let you decide.
Question: In your thread it says;"The Volcano Mage's lava only effects ground units" Did you mean it can only support ground troops?Ex: VM weakens a structure, causing ground units to deal more damage, except air units. Or that it cannot attack air units in general?
Had me confused, I suggest cleaning that little part up for all the new people that read your idea. Anyhow, everything else is looking good.
July 21st, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Hmm looked through the whole thread again, and looked at the time it took to make this troop. Would anyone want to wait (20 minutes) for a troop that takes up 12 spaces, does little DPS, and acts more like a supportive troop by weakening other structures for the rest of the army? Maybe we could lower that a little, perhaps? I'll let you decide.
Question: In your thread it says;"The Volcano Mage's lava only effects ground units" Did you mean it can only support ground troops?Ex: VM weakens a structure, causing ground units to deal more damage, except air units. Or that it cannot attack air units in general?
Had me confused, I suggest cleaning that little part up for all the new people that read your idea. Anyhow, everything else is looking good.

Thank you! I have greatly decreased the training time to 10 minutes and clarified the beginning of the post. Yes, the Volcano Mages' damage boost on buildings only works on ground troops.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Level Damage per second Damage per attack Damage boost Hitpoints Training cost
http://i.imgur.com/r1cVlrn.png Research Cost
http://i.imgur.com/r1cVlrn.png Laboratory Level Required Research Time

1 10 15 70% 154 220 N/A N/A N/A

2 15 22.5 80% 172 250 60,000 8 12 days

3 25 37.5 100% 225 325 80,000 8 14 days

Trivia and Frequently Asked Questions
*The name "Mage" is synonymous to "Wizard".
*Even though the Volcano Mage does 25 damage per second at max level, this means that each of the four buildings he hits takes 25 damage per second. So, assuming the Mage is attacking 4 buildings at once, there will be a total of 100 damage per second cast.
*The Volcano Mage has the second-longest range in the game, beaten only by the Archer Queen and tied with the Witch.
*The damage boost does stack between multiple Mages, meaning that three max-level Volcano Mages would do 75 damage per second and boost damage by 300%.
*A maximum of 20 Volcano Mages can fit in a set of fully upgraded Army Camps. This number increases to 22 if you count the two that can fit into a level 4 or above Clan Castle.
*The Volcano Mage's attack style looks like a cross between the Witch's projectiles and the fire that the Wizard shoots at level 6.

I might have missed something but does the mage boost the other mages attacks? So if 3 mages attack a building they would do 75 damage per second each on 4 buildings and they affect other troops too. Is there a max amount of troops the can affect at once. It sounds like an awesome idea, I'd love to see it implemented. Maybe it could take 11 or 10 spaces because other troops don't as well as being able to fit 3 in a cc.

July 21st, 2015
Aluxtu

Too overpowered

While the idea behind the troop is solid, having a damage increase that spreads to nearby buildings and can stack is simply too over powered. Gowivm wouldn't see resistance and forcing an opentent to spread all their buildings out in an already tightly packed map just to counter this will weaken them tremendously. Stacking defense allows them to burn down golems quickly which would be needed for this.

Maybe remove or reduce the spread. If you are going to allow a damage stack than reduce the % significantly. At 100% damage boost wizards would be two shotting everything.

Finally, and this has been mentioned before, please change the name. Honestly volcano mage is absurd and it looks identical to the wizard. Maybe adjust that as well.

Overall I like the concept but without some tweaks and in some areas overhauls I don't see this being implemented anytime soon.
July 21st, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by Allybug01

I might have missed something but does the mage boost the other mages attacks? So if 3 mages attack a building they would do 75 damage per second each on 4 buildings and they affect other troops too. Is there a max amount of troops the can affect at once. It sounds like an awesome idea, I'd love to see it implemented. Maybe it could take 11 or 10 spaces because other troops don't as well as being able to fit 3 in a cc.

Thanks! No, the Volcano Mages' damage boost can stack, but the damage boost will not affect other Volcano Mages. Also, the Volcano Mage can take down as many troops as possible in one shot, as long as they are packed together because of his 0.3 tile radius splash damage.

I have lowered the housing space to 11 :)

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Originally Posted by Aluxtu

While the idea behind the troop is solid, having a damage increase that spreads to nearby buildings and can stack is simply too over powered. Gowivm wouldn't see resistance and forcing an opentent to spread all their buildings out in an already tightly packed map just to counter this will weaken them tremendously. Stacking defense allows them to burn down golems quickly which would be needed for this.

Maybe remove or reduce the spread. If you are going to allow a damage stack than reduce the % significantly. At 100% damage boost wizards would be two shotting everything.

Finally, and this has been mentioned before, please change the name. Honestly volcano mage is absurd and it looks identical to the wizard. Maybe adjust that as well.

Overall I like the concept but without some tweaks and in some areas overhauls I don't see this being implemented anytime soon.

Okay, I have reduced the spread to two buildings at once, but he can still target multiple units if they are packed together.

For your third part, hundreds of people have already said they don't like the name Volcano Mage! Maybe I would consider it if people actually suggested a new name instead of complaining about the one there is. :smirk: Plus, I can't change the thread name, and Supercell can change the name of the troop if they want/choose to implement it.

And for the artwork, this is just a rough sketch! I'm not even the one who made the artwork, so I didn't know how it was going to look like prior. If anyone can make a drawing of this troop that is better, be my guest. But again, out of all 770 comments on this thread, I'm getting tired with the constant complaining of the name and the picture, and not really focusing on the idea itself.

Sorry about that Aluxtu, but I just took this as a chance to tell people to turn their criticism into CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. :smirk: Rant over. Deep breath.
July 21st, 2015
JohnMM

It's good

But it's too much like a wizard
July 21st, 2015
jaronhudson15

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Thank you! I have greatly decreased the training time to 10 minutes and clarified the beginning of the post. Yes, the Volcano Mages' damage boost on buildings only works on ground troops.

Only supports and weakens structures to Help ground troops only? Or cannot target air troops? wasn't completely specified in your reply.
And if the VM doesn't help air units, such as the minion deal more damage, then it sounds sketchy. Why wouldn't air units deal more damage to the weakened structure? Perhaps you should have the VM support both ground and air units, but also have it unnable to target air units.
:l
July 21st, 2015
Aluxtu

Why not just call it a pyromancer since that is essentially what it seems to be. Considering the first things you see are the name and the picture they will most likely receive the most feedback. I think the overall concept is interesting but I would need to see this unit in action to say for sure. 3 of these guys and a wizard following in the wake of a king and/or queen would pretty much burn everything down instantly in my mind but maybe not.
July 22nd, 2015
Fiery4Jayden

Wow... I've quit the forums for a short amount of months, and the progress in this thread has really shot up. Congratulations Anthony, fantastic work!
July 22nd, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by JohnMM

But it's too much like a wizard

I'm not going to say anything anymore.

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Only supports and weakens structures to Help ground troops only? Or cannot target air troops? wasn't completely specified in your reply.
And if the VM doesn't help air units, such as the minion deal more damage, then it sounds sketchy. Why wouldn't air units deal more damage to the weakened structure? Perhaps you should have the VM support both ground and air units, but also have it unnable to target air units.
:l

Yes, it only weakens structures to ground units...but I guess I will make it ground and air, although it would be kind of hard getting the Volcano Mage to support your units with an air raid, it would only be useful with maybe Minions.

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Originally Posted by Aluxtu

Why not just call it a pyromancer since that is essentially what it seems to be. Considering the first things you see are the name and the picture they will most likely receive the most feedback. I think the overall concept is interesting but I would need to see this unit in action to say for sure. 3 of these guys and a wizard following in the wake of a king and/or queen would pretty much burn everything down instantly in my mind but maybe not.

Well, I'm not changing the name right now. So :smirk:

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Originally Posted by Fiery4Jayden

Wow... I've quit the forums for a short amount of months, and the progress in this thread has really shot up. Congratulations Anthony, fantastic work!

Thanks! Haven't seen you around in a while, glad you still support it :)
July 22nd, 2015
D3ATHwiz

Cool

To be honest, the Volcano Mage does sound like a really great idea, but if it were to be worth that much dark elixir I personally think it should have a lot more damage per second. It also has a lot of look similarities to the wizard, so try to change up the look a but.
July 22nd, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by D3ATHwiz

To be honest, the Volcano Mage does sound like a really great idea, but if it were to be worth that much dark elixir I personally think it should have a lot more damage per second. It also has a lot of look similarities to the wizard, so try to change up the look a but.

I can't change the picture because I didn't make it. :smirk:

Here's what's new!
*Hitpoints decreased slightly across all levels
*Range decreased slightly to 3.5 tiles
*The Volcano Mage can now only target and affect two buildings at once
*Training time greatly decreased to 10 minutes
*Housing space decreased to 11
*Damage slightly increased at level 2 and greatly increased at level 3
*Damage boost slightly increased
*Training time greatly decreased across all levels
*Added image for my newer Inferno Spell at the bottom as a preview, as well as adding an image of the Volcano Mage on that post
July 22nd, 2015
jaronhudson15

Yes, it only weakens structures to ground units...but I guess I will make it ground and air, although it would be kind of hard getting the Volcano Mage to support your units with an air raid, it would only be useful with maybe Minions.

Minions are widely used Vince, I use them quite a lot. With a Horde of Barbarians and Minions, the VM could play a huge part. Of course we'll need wallbreakers and tank troops for the VM but think about how beneficial this troop could be. Might be better to have this troop support both ground and air, because all air units attack structures on the ground. Let's just do it. :/
People that always use minions and/or balloons won't use this troop at all if it can't work for them. Plenty of people mix ground and air attacks in, this troop could be in a strategy like that, ya know? There is absolutely no need to worry, because anyone can fix up an interesting, unique, and never before seen troop composition before and make it work.
July 22nd, 2015
jonnguy2014

The attack at Levels 1 and 2 need a buff, Level 3 is fine.
Level 1 to 15, Level 2 to 25
July 25th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Yes, it only weakens structures to ground units...but I guess I will make it ground and air, although it would be kind of hard getting the Volcano Mage to support your units with an air raid, it would only be useful with maybe Minions.

Minions are widely used Vince, I use them quite a lot. With a Horde of Barbarians and Minions, the VM could play a huge part. Of course we'll need wallbreakers and tank troops for the VM but think about how beneficial this troop could be. Might be better to have this troop support both ground and air, because all air units attack structures on the ground. Let's just do it. :/
People that always use minions and/or balloons won't use this troop at all if it can't work for them. Plenty of people mix ground and air attacks in, this troop could be in a strategy like that, ya know? There is absolutely no need to worry, because anyone can fix up an interesting, unique, and never before seen troop composition before and make it work.

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Originally Posted by jonnguy2014

The attack at Levels 1 and 2 need a buff, Level 3 is fine.
Level 1 to 15, Level 2 to 25

I've listened guys :)

Here's what's new!
*Damage boost increased across all levels
*Training time, training cost, and housing space increased
*Hitpoints increased across all levels
*The Volcano Mage now gives an initial damage boost to nearby units when it is first deployed; half the damage boost it gives to buildings, but lasts the entire raid
*Damage increased at levels 1 and 2
July 25th, 2015
Jackdopp

New feature ideas

*Movement speed=17
July 26th, 2015
Cl4UD0

Really good idea! Nice job :)

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

http://i.imgur.com/KTiBA5i.jpg

Hello everyone! Welcome to my newest troop concept, the Volcano Mage. Throughout this thread, I'll go into tons of detail to make sure you know how this troop works and how this will affect the game. You'll also get to see offensive and defensive strategies including this unit, and some example stats.

Beware, this thread is long! For those of you that have to time to read this thread, I thank you. All in all this idea took me a couple of weeks on finalizing this thread and making sure it was ready for presentation. Before I begin, I'd like to thank Charbeldegr8 for the artwork of Dark Barracks level 7, and Clannis for the picture of the troop!

So, now that that's all done with, let's get to the Volcano Mage!

Table of Contents
I. Description
II. Summary
III. Attacking Strategies
IV. Army Compositions
V. Defensive Strategies
VI. Statistics
VII. Trivia and Frequently Asked Questions
VIII. Conclusion

Description
The Volcano Mage fires hot lava onto its target, dealing damage and making it weaker to the power of your other units! In addition, any nearby unit when the Volcano Mage is deployed gains a smaller damage boost, but it is with them for the entire attack!

http://i.imgur.com/HTaATh2.jpg

Summary
✔ The Volcano Mage fires powerful lava at structures and units. This lava both does damage and makes the target take more damage from your other attacking troops and heroes.
✔ When the Volcano Mage is deployed, any unit within a 3.5 tile radius gains a permanent damage boost to use throughout the entire attack, which is half of the damage boost he gives to buildings.
✔ Although he does little damage on his own, the Volcano Mage will greatly increase the attacking force of any army, ground or air, and help take down buildings much faster.
✔ This unit is unlocked at Dark Barracks level 7 and Town Hall level 10.

What kind of strategies this unit would enable
✔ Drop the Volcano Mage behind a couple of Wizards or Valkyries near a Barbarian King at the start of the attack to quickly get rid of him before he causes too much trouble to your main attacking force.
✔ Volcano Mages have high enough health to withstand a few attacks from splash defenses, but point defenses can destroy him very quickly. Therefore, place him behind more durable troops such as Giants or P.E.K.K.As (or support him with the Healer).
✔ A good strategy is to deploy multiple Giants, Balloons, Golems, or Hog Riders, then place the Volcano Mage near them so they will gain the permanent damage boost throughout the raid. This will greatly help, since they target defenses and will probably be separated from the Volcano Mage.
✔ Using Wizards with the Volcano Mage is a very powerful strategy, and since the Volcano Mage's boost can stack, this will help the Wizard cause massive destruction to whatever he targets.
✔ Using a few Volcano Mages with a Haste Spell results in more damage and speed then a max-level Rage Spell does thus resulting the need for one less Rage Spell in your army composition.

Army compositions including this unit
✔ GiVoViz (Giants + Volcano Mages + Valkyries + Wizards) Deploy the Volcano Mage near a bunch of Giants to give them the permanent damage boost; then use Valkyries and Wizards to break into the core of the base with the help of the Mage, all while the Giants are providing a meatshield and a distraction.
✔ GoVoWiPe (Golems + Volcano Mages + Wizards + P.E.K.K.As) Give the Golems the initial damage boost by dropping the Volcano Mage near it, then let it distract defenses as P.E.K.K.As and Wizards easily break into the core with the help of another Volcano Mage(s) causing massive destruction.
✔ GoVoWiWi (Golems + Volcano Mages + Wizards + Witches) With the Golems acting as your meatshield, (and of course giving them the initial damage boost) send in the Wizards and Witches behind, finally followed by a few Volcano Mages. If executed correctly, the Volcano Mage can help both the Wizards and Witch's skeletons do more damage together.
✔ HoWiVo (Hog Riders + Wizards + Volcano Mages) Use the Volcano Mage's initial damage boost with a bunch of Hog Riders, then use both the Inferno Spell and Drought Spell to help get rid of high-damaging defenses. Then you will be able to heal them, and let the Volcano Mages and Wizards do the rest of the cleanup work!
✔ GoVoLaLoon (Golems + Volcano Mages + Lava Hounds + Balloons + Cleanup units) Use the Golems, heroes, a few Wizards, and the Volcano Mage to get rid of one or two Air Defenses, the Archer Queen, and the Air Sweeper in the beginning of the battle. Then send in your Lava Hounds and Balloons to help clear all of the defenses, with the help of a Volcano Mage!
✔ Mirror Mage Rush (Knights + Volcano Mages) The Knight will act as a tank and a distraction for the Volcano Mages, and will be even more powerful with the help of the Mage's initial damage boost. They will also help increase the Knight's big damage and reflection ability!

How to redo your base to protect from this unit
✔ Separate your buildings! The Volcano Mage can affect two buildings at once, but there is a limit on how far away the Mage can attack. Spread your buildings out to ensure that the Volcano Mage can't affect as many at a time, giving your defenses a chance to kill the Volcano Mage before he goes any farther!
✔ Place traps in strategic places outside on the edge of your base! Spring Traps and Giant Bombs are a big threat to the Volcano Mage, so placing traps on the outer edge of your base will ensure the Volcano Mage will be gone before he can do any damage himself or help any other units do more damage.
✔ Set up your Mortars in a smart way! The Volcano Mage's range is long, but that means he will usually not be caught in the blind spot of the Mortar. The Volcano Mage is also fairly weak, so with a Mortar and other defenses firing upon him, he will be gone in no time.
✔ Place your hero's altars and Clan Castle far apart - you don't want them to be so close that the Volcano Mage can help kill Clan Castle troops and heroes almost instantly, before the attack even begins! Spread them out so they don't all go down at once!
✔ Put Wizards, Archers, or Minions in your Clan Castle! While you still run the risk of being targeted by a Poison Spell, the Volcano Mage will waste his damage boost and attack on them - these units will be great at distraction, their hitpoints are so low that the Volcano Mage's damage boost will be ineffectual against them, not to mention the incredibly low damage of the Mage itself.

Statistics
✔ Preferred target: None
✔ Attack type: Area splash 0.3 tile radius (Ground and air)
✔ Housing space: 14
✔ Training time: 15 minutes
✔ Movement speed: 18
✔ Attack speed: 1.5 seconds
✔ Range: 3.5 tiles
✔ Dark Barracks level required: 7
✔ Preferred target: None
✔ Cost to upgrade Dark Barracks: 4,250,000 elixir and 10 days

http://i.imgur.com/A6dqt3o.png

Level Damage per second Damage per attack Damage boost Hitpoints Training cost
http://i.imgur.com/r1cVlrn.png Research Cost
http://i.imgur.com/r1cVlrn.png Laboratory Level Required Research Time

1 16 24 100% 150 190 N/A N/A N/A

2 20 30 110% 176 220 60,000 8 12 days

3 30 45 130% 224 275 80,000 8 14 days

Trivia and Frequently Asked Questions
✔ The initial damage boost the Volcano Mage gives is equivalent to half the damage increase it will give to buildings meaning that it will give a unit a permanent 65% increase in damage at maximum level.
✔ The Volcano Mage is the second troop (besides the Healer) that will not fit into a set of fully upgraded Army Camps evenly on its own.
✔ The damage boost stacks between multiple Mages, meaning that three max-level Volcano Mages would do 90 damage per second and make buildings more than 3x weaker to your other units.
✔ A maximum of 17 Volcano Mages can fit in a set of fully upgraded Army Camps. This number increases to 19 if you count the two that can fit into a level 5 or 6 Clan Castle.
✔ The Volcano Mage's attack style looks like a cross between the Witch's projectiles and the fire that the Wizard shoots at level 6.

http://i.imgur.com/zr140tr.jpg

Thank you SO much for reading this thread and troop idea! If you read all of it, I really appreciate it as it took quite some time to finalize all of this.

Supercell is a great company and always takes into account people's suggestions, so I believe if this thread gets enough support the Volcano Mage could end up in the game. I'd love to hear what SC thinks about this idea – and thanks for commenting too, Daddy!

Here is how you can help! I'd love to hear your comments, opinions, suggestions, and questions as I can always improve upon this idea. Here are some things that would be great to comment on:

✔ Suggestions to make this troop more balanced
✔ Ideas you have for strategies this could enable
✔ Ideas you have for setting up your base to defend from this unit
✔ Description suggestions
✔ Questions about how this troop works
✔ Explain why you do or don't like this troop

If you like this idea, tell your friends! Your Clanmates! That is how you can get SC to see this idea.

Thanks for reading and happy clashing, everyone!
Anthony

P.S. Don't forget to check out my newest concept, the Inferno Spell!
http://i.imgur.com/XkOk7J1.png

What an idea ill start on the ice wicken immediately XD

July 26th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by Jackdopp

*Movement speed=17

Thanks for suggesting, but that's an odd movement speed and is only 1 smaller than his current speed. Mind explaining why? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Cl4UD0

Really good idea! Nice job :)

Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by Castiel2140

What an idea ill start on the ice wicken immediately XD

Thanks, I guess :confused: Not really sure what you're saying :smirk:

Here's what's new!
*Description fixed
*Damage boost increased across all levels, thus also increasing the initial damage boost
*Confirmed that the initial damage boost and the regular building weakening effects do in fact stack
*Hitpoints decreased across all levels
*Training cost raised across all levels
*Training time increased to 15 minutes
*Added strategies with my Inferno Spell and Smasher's Knight and Drought Spell
July 27th, 2015
jaronhudson15

Hmmmm. Now I'm not sure about the ' permanent damage boost' this troop gives when other units are placed near the VM. Probably better to give this ' Damage boost a radius of some sort. Even if the damage boost is miniscule, many troops with the permanent damage boost could cause a lot of destruction. You already know what I'm going to say after that.
I suggest maybe getting rid of the damage boost, and just stick to the statistic where the VM hits a structure and weaken it for other units.
July 27th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Hmmmm. Now I'm not sure about the ' permanent damage boost' this troop gives when other units are placed near the VM. Probably better to give this ' Damage boost a radius of some sort. Even if the damage boost is miniscule, many troops with the permanent damage boost could cause a lot of destruction. You already know what I'm going to say after that.
I suggest maybe getting rid of the damage boost, and just stick to the statistic where the VM hits a structure and weaken it for other units.

I added this feature so it would be able to support units that would likely be separated from him.

The Volcano Mage is fairly balanced right now, as he has low damage and very low hitpoints as well as a moderately high training cost and housing space. Just think of this unit against all the Town Hall 10 defenses. And yes, Supercell always adds a defense level or something when they add a new troop, so don't expect this troop to be super overpowering.

But it again Town Hall 10 deserves a really cool troop since it's the last Town Hall so far. This initial damage boost was actually added to make it more balanced. So sorry, I don't plan on changing/removing this new feature anytime soon. :)
July 27th, 2015
SpiderPig

I think its great and unique, but in the last strategy, what is a knight?
July 27th, 2015
cdtmajorclark

i love the idea

This would be my dream troop to tell you the truth I've been thinking about a troop like this for awhile just didn't have time to work out all the details. The only thing I think could make this any better would be to make it a hero instead of just another troop having it spawn wizards would be amazing
July 28th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by SpiderPig

I think its great and unique, but in the last strategy, what is a knight?

Oh, that would be the popular Knight troop by TheOneTheyCallSmasher. Click the link and you can view it :o

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdtmajorclark

This would be my dream troop to tell you the truth I've been thinking about a troop like this for awhile just didn't have time to work out all the details. The only thing I think could make this any better would be to make it a hero instead of just another troop having it spawn wizards would be amazing

Erm...thanks, but I prefer not to have it a hero and making it spawn wizards and making it...completely different than it is right now :smirk:

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Originally Posted by jonnguy2014

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-Dark-Troop%21

Heh, yeah that's the link to the Knight troop, Spider Pig. :facepalm:
July 28th, 2015
SpiderPig

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Oh, that would be the popular Knight troop by TheOneTheyCallSmasher. Click the link and you can view it :o

Erm...thanks, but I prefer not to have it a hero and making it spawn wizards and making it...completely different than it is right now :smirk:

Heh, yeah that's the link to the Knight troop, Spider Pig. :facepalm:

Oh okay, thanks. Thought you were losing it :smirk:
July 28th, 2015
Antdroid

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Originally Posted by SpiderPig

Oh okay, thanks. Thought you were losing it :smirk:

Who are you????
July 28th, 2015
DaOneNOnly799

I like the overall look of the troop (evil wizzy) along with the attack strategies it would enable! Being able to manipulate and include it in ground and air attacks would definitely be a positive game-changer. I also like how it's compatible with the haste spell making it a special ability.. I would like to know would it be efficient to use in all air attacks? Perhaps to allow lava pups to take out the AQ faster in PentaLava attacks? :)
July 28th, 2015
TheOneTheyCallSmasher

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Originally Posted by SpiderPig

I think its great and unique, but in the last strategy, what is a knight?

*cries*

:smirk:
July 28th, 2015
jaronhudson15

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

I added this feature so it would be able to support units that would likely be separated from him.

The Volcano Mage is fairly balanced right now, as he has low damage and very low hitpoints as well as a moderately high training cost and housing space. Just think of this unit against all the Town Hall 10 defenses. And yes, Supercell always adds a defense level or something when they add a new troop, so don't expect this troop to be super overpowering.

But it again Town Hall 10 deserves a really cool troop since it's the last Town Hall so far. This initial damage boost was actually added to make it more balanced. So sorry, I don't plan on changing/removing this new feature anytime soon. :)

Ight it's fine, just made me a bit skeptical. Guess it can work.
July 28th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by SpiderPig

Oh okay, thanks. Thought you were losing it :smirk:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antdroid

Who are you????

It's another member of the forum, just like you :smirk:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaOneNOnly799

I like the overall look of the troop (evil wizzy) along with the attack strategies it would enable! Being able to manipulate and include it in ground and air attacks would definitely be a positive game-changer. I also like how it's compatible with the haste spell making it a special ability.. I would like to know would it be efficient to use in all air attacks? Perhaps to allow lava pups to take out the AQ faster in PentaLava attacks? :)

Thank you! Yes, this troop would be efficient with air attacks as well but it would only work if either he gives his initial damage boost to Balloons or Lava Hounds, and with the Mage being a ground troop, if you want him to last the whole raid with an air army I would support him with Golems or Heroes (thus encouraging more people to use a hybrid attack!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Ight it's fine, just made me a bit skeptical. Guess it can work.

Thanks! It might seem OP, but remember that this troop is unlocked at Town Hall 10 and just imagine all the Teslas, X-Bows, and Inferno Towers firing upon your army.
July 28th, 2015
Antdroid

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

It's another member of the forum, just like you :smirk:

Thank you! Yes, this troop would be efficient with air attacks as well but it would only work if either he gives his initial damage boost to Balloons or Lava Hounds, and with the Mage being a ground troop, if you want him to last the whole raid with an air army I would support him with Golems or Heroes (thus encouraging more people to use a hybrid attack!)

Thanks! It might seem OP, but remember that this troop is unlocked at Town Hall 10 and just imagine all the Teslas, X-Bows, and Inferno Towers firing upon your army.

I'm a member?! GASP! :smirk: Why does the Volcano Mage make structures take more damage? Where did you get that idea?
July 29th, 2015
AnthonyVince

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antdroid

I'm a member?! GASP! :smirk: Why does the Volcano Mage make structures take more damage? Where did you get that idea?

It came from an old troop suggestion called the Alchemist. What he did was make structures take more damage and do a "burning" damage himself (say, causes 15 damage per second even when he's not attacking it)

I liked the idea so I used the make structures take more damage part, but I changed around and added some stuff: the concept of the troop itself, all of these details and images, the different strategies, and of course added the ability with the initial damage boost the Volcano Mage causes. :)
July 30th, 2015
Antdroid

Does his boost when he spawns affect air troops?
July 30th, 2015
jonnguy2014

Still the best!!!
And I got rid of Illuminati:smirk:
July 31st, 2015
AnthonyVince

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antdroid

Does his boost when he spawns affect air troops?

Yes, which is why it would be great for Balloons or even cleanup troops like Minions :thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnguy2014

Still the best!!!
And I got rid of Illuminati:smirk:

Good, and...even better :smirk:
July 31st, 2015
Jtplauche

Maybe you've heard this before, and maybe it's not the best idea. But I like the sound of "Inferno Mage" volcano and inferno both deal with flame, and as inferno towers are a th10 powerful defense, it makes sense to me to name a powerful th10 troop an inferno Mage. Not my troop but wanted to put my two cents in. Great job coming up with this and managing the press that comes from it so well!
July 31st, 2015
jaronhudson15

I honestly like the name the way it is now. That's typically how I want to refer to this troop.
July 31st, 2015
AnthonyVince

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jtplauche

Maybe you've heard this before, and maybe it's not the best idea. But I like the sound of "Inferno Mage" volcano and inferno both deal with flame, and as inferno towers are a th10 powerful defense, it makes sense to me to name a powerful th10 troop an inferno Mage. Not my troop but wanted to put my two cents in. Great job coming up with this and managing the press that comes from it so well!

Thanks, I try my best. I will take this name into consideration :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

I honestly like the name the way it is now. That's typically how I want to refer to this troop.

Me too. It would be hard not referring to this troop as the Volcano Mage, and I honestly don't see why people don't like it :unsure:
July 31st, 2015
jaronhudson15

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Thanks, I try my best. I will take this name into consideration :)

Me too. It would be hard not referring to this troop as the Volcano Mage, and I honestly don't see why people don't like it :unsure:

Yeah I mean we have "Inferno" tower, "Lava" Hound, "Volcano" Mage. This could be perfect.
August 1st, 2015
AnthonyVince

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Yeah I mean we have "Inferno" tower, "Lava" Hound, "Volcano" Mage. This could be perfect.

Exactly. It would fit with the theme of Town Hall 10 and his name kind of matches the skills he has. I still think Volcano Mage is the best suited name for this troop :smirk:
August 3rd, 2015
jaronhudson15

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Exactly. It would fit with the theme of Town Hall 10 and his name kind of matches the skills he has. I still think Volcano Mage is the best suited name for this troop :smirk:

Bumpy wumpy thumpy yumpy woo.
August 3rd, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Bumpy wumpy thumpy yumpy woo.

Thanks, but if you want to bump this thread I prefer you make an actual contribution like asking questions, making suggestions, tweaking stats, as I don't want this thread to be closed from bumping by OTHER people.

Doing these things will both bring my idea to the top if you like, and give me a chance to respond so people can understand this idea better. Maybe you can even suggest some strategies to use this with :o
August 3rd, 2015
DaScavenger

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Thanks, but if you want to bump this thread I prefer you make an actual contribution like asking questions, making suggestions, tweaking stats, as I don't want this thread to be closed from bumping by OTHER people.

Doing these things will both bring my idea to the top if you like, and give me a chance to respond so people can understand this idea better. Maybe you can even suggest some strategies to use this with :o

This idea seems great now. I would like to see how this troop would work in an actual attack as well. It would definitely change the way people defend and attack.
August 3rd, 2015
liontiger92

wait a sec what about wizards

WIZARD they have mostly every thing in common they have the outfit the pose they have the same ability they both shot fire but after all its a good idea:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
August 3rd, 2015
J1M808

Quote:

Originally Posted by liontiger92

WIZARD they have mostly every thing in common they have the outfit the pose they have the same ability they both shot fire but after all its a good idea:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

He didn't make the artwork.. And the abilities are very different, look at the thread again :)
August 3rd, 2015
jaronhudson15

How big is the 'Small damage boost' when units are placed near the Volcano Mage? Couldn't find that anywhere.
August 3rd, 2015
jonnguy2014

xD look at this...
VM has made it to Google Images!!!
https://www.google.com/search?q=volc...w=1024&bih=677
Anyways, I think the damage boost should be slightly nerfed and the attack slightly buffed
My idea:
Level 1: 80 percent
Level 2: 100 percent
Level 3: 120 percent
DPS:
Level 1: 20
Level 2: 25
Level 3: 30
August 4th, 2015
AnthonyVince

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheScavenger350

This idea seems great now. I would like to see how this troop would work in an actual attack as well. It would definitely change the way people defend and attack.

Thanks, I agree :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by liontiger92

WIZARD they have mostly every thing in common they have the outfit the pose they have the same ability they both shot fire but after all its a good idea:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Um, I'm going to let Jim Bob explain this because I was going to go off on a big long paragraph about this :smirk:

Quote:

Originally Posted by J1M808

He didn't make the artwork.. And the abilities are very different, look at the thread again :)

Exactly. You handled this much better than I would have :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

How big is the 'Small damage boost' when units are placed near the Volcano Mage? Couldn't find that anywhere.

Equal to half of the Volcano Mage's damage boost. (130% damage boost, 65% small damage boost)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnguy2014

xD look at this...
VM has made it to Google Images!!!
https://www.google.com/search?q=volc...w=1024&bih=677
Anyways, I think the damage boost should be slightly nerfed and the attack slightly buffed
My idea:
Level 1: 80 percent
Level 2: 100 percent
Level 3: 120 percent
DPS:
Level 1: 20
Level 2: 25
Level 3: 30

Cool :smirk: And I will think about this, but remember that I want to have level 3 to have a big jump and stats and make this troop less reliant on damage and more reliant on damage INCREASING. But I will take this into consideration, thanks :)

And nice, 800 replies and 50,000 views! Finally, this is IMPORTANT:

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

For future readers, I'll be on vacation until Friday. Still keep commenting as I will be reading them, but probably won't have time to respond to them frequently. Until then, expect my response time to increase to about one day. Cheers :)
August 4th, 2015
BluBest

Give it a staff and its good to go.
August 4th, 2015
FlyAutumn

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluBest

Give it a staff and its good to go.

Personally I think it should be holding a flaming staff instead of having the fire in its hand. Love the art and concept though! This idea has gotten even better than when I first read it a while ago.
August 5th, 2015
jonnguy2014

https://mincraftfreaks.wordpress.com...ew-troop-idea/
August 5th, 2015
Aluxtu

The damage boost to troops is way to over powered. I could drop one of these guys off in a corner followed by hogs around him to grab the boost. I wouldn't even need to send a lot. I could do bursts of 5-6 to avoid a group getting killed by bombs. Can you imagine a hog that gains a 65% boost to its already high damage? Additionally this raises the question of how it impacts defense when in a clan castle? I was a little unclear but does it also boost your defense as it runs outside permanently? It seems like this guy is taking on a game changing/breaking set of abilities. You're stacking all sorts of damage boosts on him. I would stick with just the boost on his targeted buildings, otherwise I don't see it ever being introduced to the game.
August 5th, 2015
jaronhudson15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aluxtu

The damage boost to troops is way to over powered. I could drop one of these guys off in a corner followed by hogs around him to grab the boost. I wouldn't even need to send a lot. I could do bursts of 5-6 to avoid a group getting killed by bombs. Can you imagine a hog that gains a 65% boost to its already high damage? Additionally this raises the question of how it impacts defense when in a clan castle? I was a little unclear but does it also boost your defense as it runs outside permanently? It seems like this guy is taking on a game changing/breaking set of abilities. You're stacking all sorts of damage boosts on him. I would stick with just the boost on his targeted buildings, otherwise I don't see it ever being introduced to the game.

I agree, the permanent damage boost when troops are deployed next to the VM needs to go, but he said 'small damage boost,' so perhaps we haven't anything to worry about?

I think we should have the VM just weaken buildings for other troops, giving this small damage boost may be a little too much.
August 5th, 2015
0011761

Cool troop
August 5th, 2015
Livvyboss

This is a very nice idea, and a great thread as well! :thumbsup:

Quick question, what happens when the volcano Mage dies/goes out of range of the troops it gives a damage boost to? The troops still get the damage boost right?

And can he boost the damage of air troops?
August 5th, 2015
AnthonyVince

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluBest

Give it a staff and its good to go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyAutumn

Personally I think it should be holding a flaming staff instead of having the fire in its hand. Love the art and concept though! This idea has gotten even better than when I first read it a while ago.

Good idea, I like it. Would be hard to change the art now though but I'll try :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnguy2014

https://mincraftfreaks.wordpress.com...ew-troop-idea/

Main brain? Try ONLY brain. :rolleyes: Well, at least my troop is so popular it's spreading to other places! :smirk:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aluxtu

The damage boost to troops is way to over powered. I could drop one of these guys off in a corner followed by hogs around him to grab the boost. I wouldn't even need to send a lot. I could do bursts of 5-6 to avoid a group getting killed by bombs. Can you imagine a hog that gains a 65% boost to its already high damage? Additionally this raises the question of how it impacts defense when in a clan castle? I was a little unclear but does it also boost your defense as it runs outside permanently? It seems like this guy is taking on a game changing/breaking set of abilities. You're stacking all sorts of damage boosts on him. I would stick with just the boost on his targeted buildings, otherwise I don't see it ever being introduced to the game.

I'm going to answer this with a simple sentence: That's the only way I thought of to make the Volcano Mage useful and allow him to support all troops.

And no, on defense, he does not boost defenses he boosts defending Clan Castle troops.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

I agree, the permanent damage boost when troops are deployed next to the VM needs to go, but he said 'small damage boost,' so perhaps we haven't anything to worry about?

I think we should have the VM just weaken buildings for other troops, giving this small damage boost may be a little too much.

In my opinion, the VM was too weak to be a town hall 10 troop when he only had that ability.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0011761

Cool troop

Thanks :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livvyboss

This is a very nice idea, and a great thread as well! :thumbsup:

Quick question, what happens when the volcano Mage dies/goes out of range of the troops it gives a damage boost to? The troops still get the damage boost right?

And can he boost the damage of air troops?

Well, the VM targets buildings so to take advantage of that damage boost, troops (yes it also includes air) must be attacking that same building unless they already have the small damage boost.
August 5th, 2015
Livvyboss

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Well, the VM targets buildings so to take advantage of that damage boost, troops (yes it also includes air) must be attacking that same building unless they already have the small damage boost.

Wait so troops get a damage boost that lasts for the entire battle if they are within the radius at the time of deployment OR attack the same building? Or is the boost for those attacking the same building only temporary?
August 5th, 2015
AnthonyVince

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livvyboss

Wait so troops get a damage boost that lasts for the entire battle if they are within the radius at the time of deployment OR attack the same building? Or is the boost for those attacking the same building only temporary?

There's two things: the damage boost upon deployment (aka small damage boost) and the regular boost the VM gives when attacking a building.

Small damage boost: equal to half of the VM's normal damage boost. Any nearby unit when the VM is first deployed will gain this small boost and it will last for the entire raid (or until that troop(s) being affected dies).

Normal damage boost: when the VM is attacking a buildinrgg, he does damage and makes that targeted building take more damage until it is destroyed. Will only affect one building at a time, but he does small splash damage so it is possible it could affect multiple defending CC units at a time.

Get it now? :)
August 6th, 2015
Livvyboss

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

There's two things: the damage boost upon deployment (aka small damage boost) and the regular boost the VM gives when attacking a building.

Small damage boost: equal to half of the VM's normal damage boost. Any nearby unit when the VM is first deployed will gain this small boost and it will last for the entire raid (or until that troop(s) being affected dies).

Normal damage boost: when the VM is attacking a buildinrgg, he does damage and makes that targeted building take more damage until it is destroyed. Will only affect one building at a time, but he does small splash damage so it is possible it could affect multiple defending CC units at a time.

Get it now? :)

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, ok got it, sounds good :)
August 6th, 2015
Antdroid

Have you contacted SC?
August 6th, 2015
jonnguy2014

Everyone who likes this troop, change your avi to the VM!!!!:smirk:
August 8th, 2015
AnthonyVince

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Originally Posted by Livvyboss

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, ok got it, sounds good :)

Glad you like it then :)

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Originally Posted by Antdroid

Have you contacted SC?

No, they've probably seen it now anyway :smirk:

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Originally Posted by jonnguy2014

Everyone who likes this troop, change your avi to the VM!!!!:smirk:

I would, but I'm too lazy...:smirk:

Now you can view the newest edits to the thread on the original post itself, under trivia! It's becoming too much of a hassle to comment and say what's new, so now just look at the Original Post to find what's new. This goes for the Inferno Spell as well. Cheers :)

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Level	Damage per second	Damage per attack	Damage boost	Hitpoints	Training cost http://i.imgur.com/r1cVlrn.png	Research Cost http://i.imgur.com/r1cVlrn.png	Laboratory Level Required	Research Time
1	10	15	70%	154	220	N/A	N/A	N/A
2	15	22.5	80%	172	250	60,000	8	12 days
3	25	37.5	100%	225	325	80,000	8	14 days