New troop: VOLCANO MAGE!

http://i.imgur.com/A6dqt3o.png

Description

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A long time ago, one lone Wizard became tired of enemy buildings that seemed to be immune to his fellow troops' firepower. But one day, with a mighty roar, he noticed something change. With every attack, enemy buildings seemed to be going down faster than ever.

The Wizard felt proud - the battle was finally won. In his victory, this one Wizard was named the honorary Volcano Mage.

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Table of Contents
I. Description
II. Summary
III. The Volcano Mage
IV. Statistics
V. Sound too powerful? Look again!
VI. Attacking strategies
VII. How to redo your base
VIII. Thanks for reading!
IX. Latest update


Summary
✔ The Volcano Mage fires lava at his targets, doing low damage.
✔ This troop has a built-in ring of fire in which anything inside will take more damage from your attacking troops.
✔ Heroes and defending Clan Castle troops can also be affected by this ring of fire.
✔ The damage between multiple Volcano Mages does stack, but Volcano Mages themselves are not affected by the fire.
✔ A strategic troop especially for ground and hybrid army compositions.


The Volcano Mage
When deployed the Volcano Mage will walk to the nearest target, like many other troops. However, a ring of fire follows this troop around and anything inside the radius (that's not a friendly unit) will take more damage from your other troops. Although he does low damage himself, the Volcano Mage can boost the damage significantly of many armies.

http://i.imgur.com/zr140tr.jpg

Statistics
✔ Housing space: 14
✔ Training time: 10 minutes
✔ Movement speed: 18
✔ Attack speed: 1.8 seconds
✔ Range (of attack and fire ring): 4 tiles
✔ Dark Barracks level unlocked at: 7

Level	Damage per second	Damage per attack	Damage boost	Hitpoints	Training cost http://i.imgur.com/r1cVlrn.png	Research cost http://i.imgur.com/r1cVlrn.png	Laboratory level required	Research time
1	25	45	70%	142	230	N/A	N/A	N/A
2	30	54	80%	164	245	60,000	8	10 days
3	40	72	100%	206	280	80,000	9	12 days
4	55	99	140%	260	320	120,000	9	14 days

Sound too powerful? Look again!
The Volcano Mage has low HP, meaning he should not be deployed as a front-line unit else he will be quickly destroyed and his damage increase will be useless. Giant Bombs can also cause significant trouble to these troops, meaning a troop similar to the Rabbit could be very beneficial to clearing the area before the Volcano Mage is dropped.

http://i.imgur.com/HTaATh2.jpg

Attacking strategies
✔ Good to have included in any ground army composition (GoWiWi, GoWiPe) but especially useful in hybrid attacks (GoHo, GoLaLoon) to help the Kill-squad quickly burn through heroes or Air Defenses.
✔ The Volcano Mage needs to be tanked so he can help units take down important core buildings or dangerous units (Inferno Towers, X-Bows) that are usually in the center of the base faster.


How to redo your base
✔ Leave open spaces in your base to trick the attacker into thinking there may be a Giant Bomb there, as it is a very useful tool for ridding of the Volcano Mage early.
✔ Placing traps on the outside of your base will also help dispose of any Volcano Mage that may be deployed without a proper tank or troop to scour for any traps.


Thanks for reading!
Comments and ideas for improvement are greatly appreciated! I'd also like to thank Clannis for the artwork of the Volcano Mage and Charbeldegr8 for the image of Dark Barracks level 7.


Latest update (12/1/15)
✔ Laboratory level 9 is now confirmed, so all question marks removed! :)

I like the overall premises of the idea but maybe consider a different name and design for the overall look. Making it a mage makes it seem to much like a hero wizard instead of it's own kind of troop. But I do like the abilities it has.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

This was partially inspired by another thread but I added some things to it. Anyway, here goes.

Description: This fiery wizard sticks to the biggest pack and with every shot, he makes it easier for his team to destroy the entire village.

Why this is unique from other troops in the game:
-He does not enrage other units. He attacks a building like normal but slightly increases the damage taken on that unit.
-This damage boost works for buildings, walls, and CC troops!
-Has low damage, similar to a Witch
-Is not like a rage spell; he only increases damage taken, not speed.
-He has I think the most unique AI. He will stick to the nearest group of 2 or more troops.
-Ranged, like wizard and archer

Offensive strategies:
-The Volcano Mage has low damage and low hit points, so is not reliable by himself. However, he is a great addition to cleanup when time is running low.
-Use tanks as always to distract defenses so he will not die easily.
-Great for getting rid of CC troops faster

Defensive strategy:
-This could be a great time to put the builders hut at the corners of the base. Because even though the Volcano Mage can increase the damage taken on buildings, he is not a fast troop nor can he make any other troop faster.
-Make splash damage defenses hard to destroy, separate them by walls.

Info:
-Damage boost increases at each level. Level 1: 10% damage increase to that building, level 2: 20%, etc.
-Has a slow attack speed (maybe 2s) and the damage boost lasts for about 1.5s.
-Buildings have fire around them to indicate they have been hit by the Volcano Mage.

I would like constructive feedback, as I actually have been working and perfecting this idea for over two months. Thanks and I'll see you around the forums!

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Hey! This seems like a pretty good detailed idea. One question about the damage boost: would it stack with other volcano Mages' attacks and the it's attacks? For example, if it hit a building 5 times, would the damage that building receives increase by 50%? If this isn't the case, then I wanted to suggest it. Maybe each wizard attack would increase the damage by, say 5%? And it would stack up to a certain percentage, maybe 50-70%? There would have to be a limit obviously, but I think it could be a possible modification to your idea. I believe the damage boost should be a bit longer, but not entirely sure. In any case, it is a good and balanced troop!

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Originally Posted by Nightfury4321

I like the overall premises of the idea but maybe consider a different name and design for the overall look. Making it a mage makes it seem to much like a hero wizard instead of it's own kind of troop. But I do like the abilities it has.

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Thanks! Any suggestions for a name? I'll admit that Volcano Mage does kind of sound like a hero :)

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Originally Posted by Aedeman2

Hey! This seems like a pretty good detailed idea. One question about the damage boost: would it stack with other volcano Mages' attacks and the it's attacks? For example, if it hit a building 5 times, would the damage that building receives increase by 50%? If this isn't the case, then I wanted to suggest it. Maybe each wizard attack would increase the damage by, say 5%? And it would stack up to a certain percentage, maybe 50-70%? There would have to be a limit obviously, but I think it could be a possible modification to your idea. I believe the damage boost should be a bit longer, but not entirely sure. In any case, it is a good and balanced troop!

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Thanks for the positive feedback! I'm glad you like the idea. Yes the damage does stack, and I think at level 1, 30% is a good cap. Then at level 2, 50%, and 3, 70%. And do you think I should increase the damage boost to 2s? Or maybe just 1.8?

And by the way, I like your skill tree suggestion :)

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Thanks for the positive feedback! I'm glad you like the idea. Yes the damage does stack, and I think at level 1, 30% is a good cap. Then at level 2, 50%, and 3, 70%. And do you think I should increase the damage boost to 2s? Or maybe just 1.8?

and by the way, I like your skill tree suggestion (;

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About the damage boost duration... I guess it depends whether or not a single mage should be able to stack the increase of damage on a building just by himself... If it lasts less than 2 seconds, I think that means that the damage increase disappears right before he attacks again, right? Maybe an idea would be to start with 1.8 seconds of boost, then with each level upgrade of the troop it would increase by a certain amount (0,4 seconds for example) so at level 1 he wouldn't be very strong without being with others of his kind, while at level 2 he could boost the damage up to the cap even when alone. As for the name for this troop, I have no idea ;).

I appreciate that you liked my post :) if you ever come up with ideas that could improve it, feel free to jump on it and tell me!
Clash on!

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Originally Posted by Aedeman2

About the damage boost duration... I guess it depends whether or not a single mage should be able to stack the increase of damage on a building just by himself... If it lasts less than 2 seconds, I think that means that the damage increase disappears right before he attacks again, right? Maybe an idea would be to start with 1.8 seconds of boost, then with each level upgrade of the troop it would increase by a certain amount (0,4 seconds for example) so at level 1 he wouldn't be very strong without being with others of his kind, while at level 2 he could boost the damage up to the cap even when alone. As for the name for this troop, I have no idea ;).

I appreciate that you liked my post :) if you ever come up with ideas that could improve it, feel free to jump on it and tell me!
Clash on!

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Yes, I made the damage boost so that it intentionally takes less time than it does for him to attack. While I do like your idea, I do not think it should gain more time as he upgrades. I think the damage boost should just increase. If you have anymore suggestions, please feel free to comment as I really would like Supercell to read this idea and see how great it is!

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Yes, I made the damage boost so that it intentionally takes less time than it does for him to attack. While I do like your idea, I do not think it should gain more time as he upgrades. I think the damage boost should just increase. If you have anymore suggestions, please feel free to comment as I really would like Supercell to read this idea and see how great it is!

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Ok then, it seems logical, maybe time upgrades would be a bit overpowered. Maybe he could be immune to inferno tower damage, since his like a fire-related Mage? Also because it has low hitpoints. The inferno tower could just ignore him if set to multi-target, but after a while overpower him if set on single.

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Originally Posted by Aedeman2

Ok then, it seems logical, maybe time upgrades would be a bit overpowered. Maybe he could be immune to inferno tower damage, since his like a fire-related Mage? Also because it has low hitpoints. The inferno tower could just ignore him if set to multi-target, but after a while overpower him if set on single.

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Hm...I don't want to make things too complicated but I agree that does make since. Maybe I could just increase his hitpoints slightly? That way, he could withstand the IT for a longer period of time.

Or, I just had an idea. Maybe he is the only troop who can be healed while the IT is attacking him?

I think this is a great idea, I just believe, like the others, that 'mage' isn't exactly the best name for it. Good job, though! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Hm...I don't want to make things too complicated but I agree that does make since. Maybe I could just increase his hitpoints slightly? That way, he could withstand the IT for a longer period of time.

Or, I just had an idea. Maybe he is the only troop who can be healed while the IT is attacking him?

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Seems fine! And maybe be could have an aura around him that lets other nearby troops be healed... But that would add too many effects on one troop.

I really like this idea and it is cool how it helps other troops. Also, do you have any ideas for how it would be when upgraded, if you know what I mean?

Would love to see this troop in the game because this can help alot of people to take out CC troops without wasting a spell(Lightning Spell), and as you said this would be the 1st troop to make buildings vulnerable to attacks.

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Originally Posted by Darkclashlord123

Would love to see this troop in the game because this can help alot of people to take out CC troops without wasting a spell(Lightning Spell), and as you said this would be the 1st troop to make buildings vulnerable to attacks.

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Yes I would agree it would bring very unique strategies - thanks for the support, if you have anymore things to say, feel free to comment!

Great idea, it would be a great troop addition but if this troop does come into play then there must be some defense to challenge it like teslas challenging P.E.K.K.A.S or air defense challenging dragons or air balloons but all in all good idea.

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Originally Posted by DARKminion

Great idea, it would be a great troop addition but if this troop does come into play then there must be some defense to challenge it like teslas challenging P.E.K.K.A.S or air defense challenging dragons or air balloons but all in all good idea.

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I don't think anything should do double damage to it like PEKKA but I'll let Supercell take care of that. Maybe a new wizard tower level idk. But thanks for the good comments anyway!

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

I don't know what you mean ;)

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As in, what will be changed when it is upgraded.

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Originally Posted by IamBobtheFirst

As in, what will be changed when it is upgraded.

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Oh I guess you mean appearance or damage. I'm not sure, so I'll answer both.

Damage: I was thinking that each level of the Volcano Mage would have damage of a similar level wizard. For example, I believe the damage per second for a level 1 wizard is 50, but I might make it 40 damage per second. This would increase 10 or 20 at each level, and there are 3 levels.

Appearance: I was thinking the level 1 Volcano Mage would look like a level 1 wizard - except with a brown coat to represent ash, and flames rising around him. He will attack with a stream of hot, but not too hot looking, magma.

At level 2, his coat would be more full of flames, and now he will attack with a more fiery-looking stream of magma, maybe with a touch of bright yellow.

At level 3, his coat is full of flames and he is now surrounded by fire. His attacks now are more "volcanoey" as in he's shooting lava, magma, and ash. The whole shebang (:

I hope that answers your question and feel free to comment more and ask any more questions. as you can see, I'm very serious about wanting Supercell to read this. WHERE ARE YOU, SUPERCELL?

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Description: A real team player, the Volcano Mage loves attacking with volcanoey madness and making things easier for his team to destroy - he just can't stop giving!

Why this is unique from other troops in the game:
-This is the first troop who attacks to make buildings more susceptible to damage. For example at level 1, with every attack he makes the targeted building receive 20% more damage for a certain period of time.
-This damage boost is a great addition for buildings of course, but also walls - what if your Wall Breaker can't quite one-shot that wall? That's right, the Volcano Mage can help him destroy walls too!
-The Volcano Mage will stick to the closest group of troops (if there are only groups of 1 he will stick to the closest one) so he can take advantage of his special ability.

What new offensive strategies this unit would enable:
-This is a great addition to get rid of Clan Castle troops at the beginning of attack. Note that his favorite target is anything, so this is the one time that if his group is attacking something else, the Volcano Mage will still turn to attack CC troops if they are there.
-Deployed with Hog Riders, the Volcano Mage will help the Hog get rid of buildings faster since they do not have a lot of hitpoints and killed be killed of easily.
-Like any other troop, tanks like Giants and Golems are needed to absorb damage.

How I can set up my base to protect from this unit:
-Make splash damage defenses hard to get to by separating them by walls (for Giants) or placing Giant Bombs around them (for Hogs) because they are the best at taking out the Volcano Mage.
-Use funneling and walls since spring traps and walls can be a major distraction to the Volcano Mage.
-Strategically place the Inferno Tower around important buildings as they block out healing effects and the Volcano Mage is very fragile on its own.

Terms I would use to describe this unit:
-Speed The Volcano Mage either has the speed of an Archer or a Wizard, whichever works best
-Health The Volcano Mage would have decent health, maybe a little less than a Hog Rider
-Damage This troop would have similar damage to a same-level Wizard
-Damage boost The damage boost would be 20% at level 1, then increase by 20 at each level. (Max level 3)

I would like constructive feedback, as I actually have been working and perfecting this idea for over two months. Thanks and I'll see you around the forums!

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Just a few questions:

-Would the damage bonus stack? (I'm sorry if you have been asked this question, didn't see it though)
-Lets say the volcano mage hit an army camp, would the damage bonus apply to the damage that he just did? Lets say the mage did 150 dmg on his first attack without the damage bonus, would the damage bonus still apply to that attack? (180 dmg) or would it only apply for the next attacks?
-When it says "sticks to the closest group of troops", lets say you deploy a large swarm of hogs at the top of the base, then you place a volcano mage at the bottom of the base, would the mage travel around the whole map to reach the hogs?

A few constructive feedbacks:

-I would assume, because it has the same dps as a normal wizards AND it does the extra damage bonus, this would seriously limit the usage of wizards. Maybe it should have less dps to make it more of a supporting troop or more housing space (10-12? you didn't list the housing space) to lessen the amount of volcano mages that can be held?
-I don't think they could be used effectively with hog riders. Unless they skip over the garbage buildings, such as army camps and barracks, to join the group of hogs, by the time they can clear the garbage buildings the hogs will be 1/4 into the base, stranding them to just clean up more buildings.
-Also, I think that the 60% damage increase at a max volcano mage would be too OP. I feel like a 6-10% increase per lvl would be sufficient, eventually adding up to 32-40%.

It would be great if you could read and answer some of my questions and feedback! Other than that, looks like a great idea!

Edit: Ok cool :)

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Originally Posted by Fiery4Jayden

Just a few questions:

-Would the damage bonus stack? (I'm sorry if you have been asked this question, didn't see it though)
-Lets say the volcano mage hit an army camp, would the damage bonus apply to the damage that he just did? Lets say the mage did 150 dmg on his first attack without the damage bonus, would the damage bonus still apply to that attack? (180 dmg) or would it only apply for the next attacks?
-When it says "sticks to the closest group of troops", lets say you deploy a large swarm of hogs at the top of the base, then you place a volcano mage at the bottom of the base, would the mage travel around the whole map to reach the hogs?

A few constructive feedbacks:

-I would assume, because it has the same dps as a normal wizards AND it does the extra damage bonus, this would seriously limit the usage of wizards. Maybe it should have less dps to make it more of a supporting troop or more housing space (10-12? you didn't list the housing space) to lessen the amount of volcano mages that can be held?
-I don't think they could be used effectively with hog riders. Unless they skip over the garbage buildings, such as army camps and barracks, to join the group of hogs, by the time they can clear the garbage buildings the hogs will be 1/4 into the base, stranding them to just clean up more buildings.
-Also, I think that the 60% damage increase at a max volcano mage would be too OP. I feel like a 6-10% increase per lvl would be sufficient, eventually adding up to 32-40%.

It would be great if you could read and answer some of my questions and feedback! Other than that, looks like a great idea!

Edit: Ok cool :)

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OK so first things first, thanks for commenting. Please feel free to comment any more fixes you find necessary in the future :)

-Ok so you ask if the damage boost stacks when they attack. When I first posted this idea, I noted that the attack speed is 2 seconds and the damage boost lasts for 1.8s, but when I was editing, I removed most numbers. Therefore, it is impossible for one Volcano Mage's damage boost to stack at one time, but if there are multiple volcano Mages attacking then yes it does stack.
-When I say stick to the closest group, I actually think that it just might be stick to the closest troop, making attackers plan what to deploy first, etc. But if there's a hog rider on one side and a Volcano Mage on the other, yes I suppose he would wander to the hog rider. Unless you have a suggestion that could make this better, like having a different AI.
-OR, I just had an idea! Maybe I'll turn this around and make troops within a certain radius of him follow the Volcano Mage? This could work, but of course troops that have favorite targets will not follow him until all those buildings are gone.

-I agree this could limit the use of Wizards. I think I will lower his damage to about 30, (that's 20 damage per second less) and lower his damage boost to 20%, which will increase to 30% at level 2 and 40% at level 3.
-I will make the housing space 11. This could be because he is powerful and also because I want an odd number that does not fit in to 240 easily, like the Healers, so it is used with other units.
-Yes, I will make the damage boost 40% at level 3 now.

Thanks for your input! If there's any other suggestions, feel free to comment.

Boy that took a long time to type XD

Thread could be more organized (add sections to it, pros and cons, a picture would be nice) over all one of the better troop ideas I have read lately. With some minor adjustments it would be a cool new troop.

Yea great job. I like the whole concept, but I do think it should not be named a Volcano Mage. Shadow Mage Perhaps?

I dunno man, it seems a lot like a wizard

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Originally Posted by mtommy2597

I dunno man, it seems a lot like a wizard

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I guess it's basically an upgraded and better version of the wizard...like how wall breaker->balloon...it still uses a skeleton and bombs, but for a different purpose.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Description: A real team player, the Volcano Mage loves attacking with volcanoey madness and making things easier for his team to destroy - he just can't stop giving!

Why this is unique from other troops in the game:
-This is the first troop who attacks to make buildings more susceptible to damage. For example at level 1, with every attack he makes the targeted building receive 20% more damage for a certain period of time.
-This damage boost is a great addition for buildings of course, but also walls - what if your Wall Breaker can't quite one-shot that wall? That's right, the Volcano Mage can help him destroy walls too!
-The Volcano Mage will stick to the closest group of troops (if there are only groups of 1 he will stick to the closest one) so he can take advantage of his special ability.

What new offensive strategies this unit would enable:
-This is a great addition to get rid of Clan Castle troops at the beginning of attack. Note that his favorite target is anything, so this is the one time that if his group is attacking something else, the Volcano Mage will still turn to attack CC troops if they are there.
-Deployed with Hog Riders, the Volcano Mage will help the Hog get rid of buildings faster since they do not have a lot of hitpoints and killed be killed of easily.
-Like any other troop, tanks like Giants and Golems are needed to absorb damage.

How I can set up my base to protect from this unit:
-Make splash damage defenses hard to get to by separating them by walls (for Giants) or placing Giant Bombs around them (for Hogs) because they are the best at taking out the Volcano Mage.
-Use funneling and walls since spring traps and walls can be a major distraction to the Volcano Mage.
-Strategically place the Inferno Tower around important buildings as they block out healing effects and the Volcano Mage is very fragile on its own.

Terms I would use to describe this unit:
-Speed: The Volcano Mage either has the speed of an Archer or a Wizard, whichever works best
-Health: The Volcano Mage would have decent health, maybe around a level 5 wiz at level 1.
-Damage: This troop would have a little less damage than a same-level Wizard
-Damage boost: The damage boost would be 20% at level 1, then increase by 10 at each level.

Pros about this unit
-Can help your troops get rid of buildings faster
-Even does damage himself
-Can help get rid of walls and CC troops faster

Cons about this unit
-Not a lot of hitpoints
-Not that reliable on his own

I would like constructive feedback, as I actually have been working and perfecting this idea for over two months. Thanks and I'll see you around the forums! Artwork coming soon!

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Thread's getting better each day! Keep up the good work, would also love to see the concept art your friend is making! :)

Wow that is a good troop idea.
But I would give it another look than like the wizard.
And another name like... GREAMER.

I don't know what is a greamer.
I just try to invent a name.
And why a butter churner???

BTW I just want to make another name because everybody try to make a new mage.
Look at the similar threads.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Ok. And a greamer sounds like a butter churner because you like cream butter and greamer sounds like creamer. So, do you actually have any actual suggestions on how I can improve this idea?

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Oh.... now I got it.
Just don't let it look like a wizard.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

It won't look too much like a wiz.

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If you say it... I will believe you bro.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Lol thx. Art should be here soon

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I am full of expectation!!!

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

This thread has officially reached 50 posts! Thanks for all the support guys and keep commenting if you love this and want this in the game, or even if you have any constructive feedback!

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I was wondering (because I may or may not be the friend who is in charge of the art)...what exactly does the Volcano Mage look like in your mind?

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Originally Posted by Nightfury4321

I like the overall premises of the idea but maybe consider a different name and design for the overall look. Making it a mage makes it seem to much like a hero wizard instead of it's own kind of troop. But I do like the abilities it has.

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I agree with Nightfury4321

I would like to see this in game. It is a unique troop that opens up a lot of army variation, as people have the choice to further increase the supporting power in their army with this troop instead of only spells.

As for the name, I think a Pyromancer would be good, which also fits into the theme of TH10, which is very much based on reds and fire.

Pyromancer. Not bad. Thanks for your feedback and do you have any more comments? :)

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

Pyromancer. Not bad. Thanks for your feedback and do you have any more comments? :)

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Ayyee that was my idea:D

It is so complicated and could be overly unfair you would have no chance against it.

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Originally Posted by StealthKnight14

It is so complicated and could be overly unfair you would have no chance against it.

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With all due respect, I disagree.

First of all, are you like a Town Hall 5 or 6? Because like everything is overpowered at that level.

Next, I have no idea how this is overly complicated - he attacks and for a short time that building gets more damage from all units attacking it.

Attacking has always had an unfair advantage. That's like saying "Oh the lava hound does so little damage. It's so stupid." Have you seen the attack lavaloonion?

And, this unit, at level 1, can possibly be killed in 2 shots by an archer tower. Just an archer tower. Not to mention all the other defenses that will be shooting at it.

I hope you see where I'm going now. And next time, at least say WHY it's complicated or WHY it's overpowered. I did say I want constructive feedback, not "oh, this idea stinks." :)

And thanks for giving my troop idea constructive feedback and second you are probably like th4 so stop talking there big guy!
But all do respect you know!

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Originally Posted by StealthKnight14

And thanks for giving my troop idea constructive feedback and second you are probably like th4 so stop talking there big guy!
But all do respect you know!

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Is that why you're saying my idea is bad? Because I gave you feedback?

You didn't answer my question :) you're avoiding it. And for future reference, I'm a town hall 8!

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Originally Posted by StealthKnight14

And thanks for giving my troop idea constructive feedback and second you are probably like th4 so stop talking there big guy!
But all do respect you know!

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Wow... He honestly gave good feedback and was simply asking why it was so overly unfair... Plus, he honestly meant "with all due respect"... would you rather him say, "wow! you're stupid, you're such a noob!"?.... Don't mock him, he's just using manners.

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Originally Posted by Fiery4Jayden

Wow... He honestly gave good feedback and was simply asking why it was so overly unfair... Plus, he honestly meant "with all due respect"... would you rather him say, "wow! you're stupid, you're such a noob!"?.... Don't mock him, he's just using manners.

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Thanks for the help.

And other OP, I know you're just criticizing my idea because I said your idea was too similar to the witch. I did give feedback, and obviously you don't like this so you come here and start criticizing me /: and you still haven't answered - what town hall are you?

Amazing idea needs adif name to make it seem like its own troop

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Originally Posted by Davidadid727

Amazing idea needs adif name to make it seem like its own troop

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That's what everyone keeps saying...mind suggesting a name? The top suggestion right now is Pyromancer, but personally I don't care for that. I would prefer something with Volcano in it.

I am town hall 8 too
sorry didn't mean to be harsh or mean
i apologize
Hope you accept it

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...e188_anger.jpg

Picture I found. I think that this could look something like the troop. Although if you find it looks to much like a lava hound I could look for something else.

I was actually thinking it would look less threatening lol :) and using the same aspects as the Wizard. Thanks for your input though, and did you vote on the poll?

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Originally Posted by AnthonyVince

I was actually thinking it would look less threatening lol :) and using the same aspects as the Wizard. Thanks for your input though, and did you vote on the poll?

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Lol I guess that it was a bit menacing. Yes I voted, and I had a backup picture. How about this?
http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/...na-d5jq65l.png

Not bad at all - that's similar to what I had in mind. How do you like the new way I've set up the thread?

looks great.

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looks great.

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Thanks! You have no idea how much I hope this idea gets in the game :)

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Thanks! You have no idea how much I hope this idea gets in the game :)

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Yeah, it is a good idea if you get many posts maybe supercell will look at it...

Hopefully :) as long as it keeps getting support

I hope it for you.

Any troop that can stay on the first page after a week is obviously popular.

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Any troop that can stay on the first page after a week is obviously popular.

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That's right. My ideas never stay so long...
You can check it :-P :-P :-P :-P :-)

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Any troop that can stay on the first page after a week is obviously popular.

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Thanks - I never imagined it would gain over 3000 views in a week - that's a lot for the new troop page. If it's popular, I seriously hope Supercell has read/will respond to this idea because I honestly think it would work perfectly in the game. :)

And don't forget everyone, if you like this idea keep commenting to keep it on the first page!!! Thanks!

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Thanks - I never imagined it would gain over 3000 views in a week - that's a lot for the new troop page. If it's popular, I seriously hope Supercell has read/will respond to this idea because I honestly think it would work perfectly in the game. :)

And don't forget everyone, if you like this idea keep commenting to keep it on the first page!!! Thanks!

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good luck with that. I had a thread quite a while ago in this subforum. It had more pages than this one. I don't think supercell even gave it a thought, honestly. it had 218 replies, 22 pages, and over 12,000 views. Enough people need to want a similar thing for them to think about it. Not just one person with a couple supporters. But I support your idea.:thumbsup:

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good luck with that. I had a thread quite a while ago in this subforum. It had more pages than this one. I don't think supercell even gave it a thought, honestly. it had 218 replies, 22 pages, and over 12,000 views. Enough people need to want a similar thing for them to think about it. Not just one person with a couple supporters. But I support your idea.:thumbsup:

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What was your troop idea? Do you have a link for it?

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What was your troop idea? Do you have a link for it?

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It wasn't just one troop actually. It was a whole group of stuff. Link Is actually in my description. Sadly for me, the thread died last november

Oh sorry about that. But I can still dream, can't I? :) it might be in the game eventually

Okay, people, about the artwork...

I am (FOR NOW) making it a different-colored wizard, I have someone working on a whole new drawing right now.

I also found this really cool image online...is this what everyone kinda-sorta thinks of when they read this post?

So...what do you think? I'm obviously not gonna use the exact same thing, because a) it isn't mine and b) if I were to replicate it, it would look nothing near as awesome.

Not bad for now, Bob. I was thinking he would shoot more of a lava looking attack burst, and anything at all possible to separate the look from the Wizard. :)

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I'll put the artwork up soon - I'm on my iPod right now so I can't do it right now :)

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I hope you will do it soon.
I'm curious.

Great idea, I would love to see this added to the game! Only thing is that the name of this troop is a little too boring, (not that it is bad, I love the idea!) maybe "Volcanic Archmage"??? Just a suggestion, it makes the troop sound more attractive and powerful!

Thanks for your feedback! That actually is not a bad name :)

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I hope you will do it soon.
I'm curious.

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Yeah, no pressure.... :)

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Yeah, no pressure.... :)

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Don't worry, it will be fine. Just if you mess this up everyone will hate your idea and it will become ruled out because of how unpopular it becomes. But besides that nothing will be a problem. :straightface:

Threw this together in 20m, tell me what your think!

Lol...........................better than I could do in 20 minutes :)

I kinda have a feeling I will never have any artwork on this troopXD

Thanks guys for all the support! THIS IS THE FIRST TROOP/SPELL IDEA IN A LONG TIME TO REACH 100 POSTS - AND OVER 4000 VIEWS!!!!! THANKS AND I HOPE THIS WILL BE ADDED TO THE GAME;)

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Lol...........................better than I could do in 20 minutes :)

I kinda have a feeling I will never have any artwork on this troopXD

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I could keep working on some, do you want me to? Also, idk what to colour his coat, you said brown for "ash" but "ash" is white (lvl 1 pyromancer) :p Btw, the artwork was made with Paper :D (It's an app)

Just imagine his coat being brown like soil and he shoots a stream of lava, which is a mix of red, yellow, and orange. If you're up to making artwork, I wouldn't mind :)

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Thanks guys for all the support! THIS IS THE FIRST TROOP/SPELL IDEA IN A LONG TIME TO REACH 100 POSTS - AND OVER 4000 VIEWS!!!!! THANKS AND I HOPE THIS WILL BE ADDED TO THE GAME;)

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Over half of those posts were yours :)
Great idea

I was thinking on the name because I had commented on it earlier and you had asked for suggestions but I didn't have any at the time. I think "Vulcan" would be a cool name. Vulcan was the Greek God for volcanoes and fire, the overall feel you want for your troop. I think that's kinda boss!

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I was thinking on the name because I had commented on it earlier and you had asked for suggestions but I didn't have any at the time. I think "Vulcan" would be a cool name. Vulcan was the Greek God for volcanoes and fire, the overall feel you want for your troop. I think that's kinda boss!

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Vulcan? What does Spock have anything to do with this?

Also I say my picture is the best.

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I was thinking on the name because I had commented on it earlier and you had asked for suggestions but I didn't have any at the time. I think "Vulcan" would be a cool name. Vulcan was the Greek God for volcanoes and fire, the overall feel you want for your troop. I think that's kinda boss!

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He sounds a little too much like Spock :)

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He sounds a little too much like Spock :)

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Oh ya.... Didn't think of that.....

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Just imagine his coat being brown like soil and he shoots a stream of lava, which is a mix of red, yellow, and orange. If you're up to making artwork, I wouldn't mind :)

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I'm up to it, will redraw and show him shooting lava

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Just imagine his coat being brown like soil and he shoots a stream of lava, which is a mix of red, yellow, and orange. If you're up to making artwork, I wouldn't mind :)

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I am a terrible artist, but my sisters pretty good. I have her re-drawing my idea, with these specifics. I'll post it when she's done. Best to have as many ideas as possible.

Thanks for all the help guys in making artwork :)

Well, how cool would it be to say I came up with the artwork for the newest CoC dark troop.

Don't know if this is much better, added the new coat, lava, and an amulet-ish thing. I kind of like the first stance better though. Tell me what you think! (Drawing small things, like eyes is soooo hard on an iPad even... lol) This would be a level 1 pyromancer) Also, wouldn't mind a little competition Theking8133 XD

Pretty cool idea, after reading every page of this post I think pyromancer is definitely the best name idea. It doesn't make me think of the wizard and definitely portrays the volcanoe idea you're looking for.. I definitely want to see artwork though 😁

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Pretty cool idea, after reading every page of this post I think pyromancer is definitely the best name idea. It doesn't make me think of the wizard and definitely portrays the volcanoe idea you're looking for.. I definitely want to see artwork though 😁

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See, I like volcanic archmage, or whatever that guy said earlier.

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Having been born deep below the Inferno Tower's flames, the Volcano Mage turns every attack into pure volcanoey madness, rewarding all the troops that follow him into battle!

Statistics:

• Favorite target: Any
• Housing space: 14
• Movement speed: 16
• Lava boost duration: 1.5s

Level	Damage per second	Damage per attack	Damage boost	Hitpoints	Training cost	Research cost	Laboratory level required	Research time
1	30	60	20%	190	300 DE	N/A	N/A	N/A
2	40	80	30%	225	320 DE	60,000 DE	7	10 days
3	50	100	40%	270	340 DE	80,000 DE	8	14 days

Why this is unique from other troops in the game:

• This is the only troop who increases the damage taken by buildings for a short period of time. (Gives Wizards an extra 10% damage boost as well)
• Troops within a certain radius of the Volcano Mage (maybe 3 tiles) will follow the Volcano Mage as long as they do not have a favorite target or their favorite targets are all destroyed.

Offensive strategies:

• Since troops within a certain radius of the Volcano Mage will follow him, you can use this predictable nature to put powerful units (like Wizard or Valkyrie) near him so they can take advantage of his damage boost.
• This unit is a great addition to getting rid of Clan Castle troops at the beginning of the attack, as they increase the damage taken.
• Volcano Mages work well with Healing Spells so they can continue to make buildings easier to destroy, without worrying about being killed themselves.
• Send this unit in with Barbarians and Archers to make a relatively cheap and more efficient army.
• Watch out for Giant Bombs as they can kill the Volcano Mage in one shot.

Defensive strategies:

• Given that the nature of the Volcano Mage is predictable, you can use their feature to lead units against them. Things like the Wizard Tower, Mortar, and Multi-target Inferno Towers will make quick work of the Volcano Mage, as well as the units following him.
• Place Spring Traps strategically so that it can take out the Volcano Mage.

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Here's some things I think need to be adjusted or improved upon to make this troop more viable:

• his boost should last at least as long as the space between his attacks
• does his atk boost stack?
• I don't think using this troop on CC troops is a good offensive strategy. he's worth 14 spaces and most CC troops can be taken out in 1 or 2 hits anyways. a damage increase would not be all that helpful.
• You say that troops within 3 tiles will follow the mage, but his troop speed may push troops outside his follow range. How could you prevent this?
• He has barely 2 DPS per housing space. If 5 wizards followed him and received 20% increase, his 14 housing space would still only be doing the damage of 1.5 wizards (at 6 HS). This should be adjusted to make him more valuable.
• It seems this troop is most beneficial when paired with wizards. Are wizards not already a little OP in this game?

I like the idea. Just had some thoughts that I hope get answered to make this troop even better.

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Here's some things I think need to be adjusted or improved upon to make this troop more viable:

• his boost should last at least as long as the space between his attacks
• does his atk boost stack?
• I don't think using this troop on CC troops is a good offensive strategy. he's worth 14 spaces and most CC troops can be taken out in 1 or 2 hits anyways. a damage increase would not be all that helpful.
• You say that troops within 3 tiles will follow the mage, but his troop speed may push troops outside his follow range. How could you prevent this?
• He has barely 2 DPS per housing space. If 5 wizards followed him and received 20% increase, his 14 housing space would still only be doing the damage of 1.5 wizards (at 6 HS). This should be adjusted to make him more valuable.
• It seems this troop is most beneficial when paired with wizards. Are wizards not already a little OP in this game?

I like the idea. Just had some thoughts that I hope get answered to make this troop even better.

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He has soome good points here. First off, I agree, lower the troop spacing. It doesn't do much damage, which should offset the amount of damage bonus it does. Also, at the moment, he has 2 seconds between attacks. That is a bit long. I think 1 second would be a bit better, that way the troop is always casting a boost onto the building he is attacking. Although I disagree with the last statement. I, personally, would pair these with some golems to tank damage, and some dragons.

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He has soome good points here. First off, I agree, lower the troop spacing. It doesn't do much damage, which should offset the amount of damage bonus it does. Also, at the moment, he has 2 seconds between attacks. That is a bit long. I think 1 second would be a bit better, that way the troop is always casting a boost onto the building he is attacking. Although I disagree with the last statement. I, personally, would pair these with some golems to tank damage, and some dragons.

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Unfortunately, the way he has these set, these troops would only work with ranged ground troops (not golems or dragons). It's low health forces you to provide cover, so making him the only ground troops in a dragon attack is a bad idea. Also, his follow range is shorter than his attack range, which means melee troops that attack places directly would not follow him. Plus, this troops does not focus defenses, so golems, giants, and hog riders would not follow him either.

just put it in the game already..

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Here's some things I think need to be adjusted or improved upon to make this troop more viable:

• his boost should last at least as long as the space between his attacks
• does his atk boost stack?
• I don't think using this troop on CC troops is a good offensive strategy. he's worth 14 spaces and most CC troops can be taken out in 1 or 2 hits anyways. a damage increase would not be all that helpful.
• You say that troops within 3 tiles will follow the mage, but his troop speed may push troops outside his follow range. How could you prevent this?
• He has barely 2 DPS per housing space. If 5 wizards followed him and received 20% increase, his 14 housing space would still only be doing the damage of 1.5 wizards (at 6 HS). This should be adjusted to make him more valuable.
• It seems this troop is most beneficial when paired with wizards. Are wizards not already a little OP in this game?

I like the idea. Just had some thoughts that I hope get answered to make this troop even better.

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Gracias for the feedback!

-This actually makes a little bit of sense, so the Volcano Mage can have a steady stream of boosting. WILL ADD.
-No it does not, I am pretty sure I answered this in a previous post. If not, thanks for clarifying!
-I will slightly lower the housing space, but keep in mind that he will greatly help get rid of Golems and Lava Hounds in the Clan Castle. WILL ADD.
-His troop speed is one of the slowest in the game - the same as the Wizard.
-Ok I will slightly increase damage. WILL ADD.
-They can be OP, but someone mentioned that this is essentially too similar to the Wizard, so I decided to make an incentive for using the Wizard with the Volcano Mage.

Once again, thanks for your support and if you have any more comments, please do so because as you can tell, I and many others would love this to be in the game! Thanks!!!

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Gracias for the feedback!

-His troop speed is one of the slowest in the game - the same as the Wizard.

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This would still cause troops to fall outside his range of following. As of right now, the only troop that could benefit would be wizards because they hold the same movement speed. Wizards are already overpowered. I'm starting to like this idea less and less...

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This would still cause troops to fall outside his range of following. As of right now, the only troop that could benefit would be wizards because they hold the same movement speed. Wizards are already overpowered. I'm starting to like this idea less and less...

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Hey dude, be quiet. You forgot barbarians, barbarian king, P.E.E.K.A also have a 16 movement speed. Also, things like Golems, giants, and others I don't feel like listing, which only have slightly less movement speed, will still be following the troop. They will be within the troops range, and chances are, by the time they fall out, they are already closest to the building the volcano Mage is targeting. The only problem is that the range the troops follow him, is smaller than his attack range. I would just make his follow range larger than his attack range so melee troops will follow him, like 5 spaces rather than 3. THAT would fix this problem. So rather than complaining about a problem with the troop, suggest a solution.

Very organized thread... Pretty useful... Balanced stats... Not a bad idea for the game... Check all! Hope that get added to the game! (But try to show some photos of him in the barrack image, icon and in-land, counting the three levels)

Uhhh... Sorry, but how do I vote? I have never voted in any poll...

Volcano Mage: Follow me guys, lets take out this base!

Giant Bomb: Hello:smirk:

Mage: AAAHHH
Wizard: AAAHHH
Archer: AAAHHH
Illuminati: AAAHHH
World: AAAHHH

*ded*

This was on purpose. The volcano mage already has decent damage, pretty good hitpoints, and a high damage boost. The giant bomb and any other multi target defense can help balance this. If you want, I can lower his housing space to 10 so it's less of a hassle to use him. :) Thanks for the feedback!

You know this is a pretty popular idea. Assuming that all the people who voted that it needed work would now vote that they like it, over 77% of the people who voted want it in the game.

Sorry if I offended you; that was not what I had intended. For the record, I think it's a good idea, but when we start looking into the logistics, numbers, technicalities, etc... it makes this troop very difficult to work with and keep it unique. Once you increase the follow range to 5 tiles, the "Volcano Mage" begins to look more like the Barb King's special ability. Supercell won't like that; they want something unique. But I think you've done a good job so far designing a troop. I like to see when the community comes together to work on a project like this.

Keep up the good work. Remember, though, we can make something great out of this troop and Supercell still has the right to not acknowledge it. Only if they've seen everyone working together to make the best possible troop will they turn an eye to our idea.

OK so the artwork my sister's working on is almost done. Should be up in a day or two.

Is the definitive artwork coming up soon?