how many nhs are competing?

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Originally Posted by SmudgedScreen

Zen, you say in part..don't tell me because you are a higher level, more coins is of no use to you, that's why you sell at a cheaper price to me........ I'm not understanding why this is a problem. I sell everything to all my neighbours for $1 always. I do not need the money. They still have machines to buy and I don't. Am I to worry that I am insulting them by doing this? No, I think not, they appreciate it. You seem angry that people would sell cheaply to you, perhaps they really don't need the money and are being kind.

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Zen didn't sound angry to me at all. But frustrated by unfair treatment.

For me, I most enjoy figuring out the puzzle of making things run efficiently and maximizing profits. When I joined my first NH at level 29 it was a requirement that everybody sell at max. I've been doing that since then. IMO giving handouts is depriving people of the opportunity to figure out the puzzle. I'll spend hours discussing profit and production strategy with neighbors. But other than the occasional gift, where the recipient has nothing to do with level, this neighborhood doesn't work as you describe.

Zen, don't lump us all together. There are many kinds of people playing HayDay. Although it can be troublesome to find a good neighborhood fit.

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Originally Posted by XYZZY

Zen didn't sound angry to me at all. But frustrated by unfair treatment.

For me, I most enjoy figuring out the puzzle of making things run efficiently and maximizing profits. When I joined my first NH at level 29 it was a requirement that everybody sell at max. I've been doing that since then. IMO giving handouts is depriving people of the opportunity to figure out the puzzle. I'll spend hours discussing profit and production strategy with neighbors. But other than the occasional gift, where the recipient has nothing to do with level, this neighborhood doesn't work as you describe.

Zen, don't lump us all together. There are many kinds of people playing HayDay. Although it can be troublesome to find a good neighborhood fit.

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So sorry XYZZY, I went ahead and push everything to big NH. I know I shouldn't have said that, its just that when someone said those in small NH (1 or 2 players) should be punished, then I took it too heavy. I'm sorry I do not blame all big NH, its just that certain players (who happened to be in big NH) are behaving that way. Maybe a lot of the small NH players don't come to forum but as one of the players in small NH, I think I have done nothing wrong in voicing out the issues. If we don't voice out any issues while Derby is still new, once it becomes permanent, changes won't be consider. Btw, thank you for your PM, I replied to you.

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Originally Posted by XYZZY

Zen didn't sound angry to me at all. But frustrated by unfair treatment.

For me, I most enjoy figuring out the puzzle of making things run efficiently and maximizing profits. When I joined my first NH at level 29 it was a requirement that everybody sell at max. I've been doing that since then. IMO giving handouts is depriving people of the opportunity to figure out the puzzle. I'll spend hours discussing profit and production strategy with neighbors. But other than the occasional gift, where the recipient has nothing to do with level, this neighborhood doesn't work as you describe.

Zen, don't lump us all together. There are many kinds of people playing HayDay. Although it can be troublesome to find a good neighborhood fit.

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I see what you are saying about strategy, it may be taking away a piece of the puzzle. But we also talk a lot about the finer points of HD play too. I guess my selling at $1 may be for more my sake than theirs. Lol, but its hard to sell items full price when you really don't want the money. It makes me feel greedy. I also ask my members to charge me full price. But I appreciate it when they dont. The other coin rich neighbours in my nh also sell for $1. If a neighbour wants items I have and they say charge me full price, I do. Of course trading is just a small fraction of how we help each other so i always try to make lower levels feel appreciated and useful in other ways. Thanks for your insight.

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Originally Posted by zen2071

Incentive to join a bigger NH? There isn't any because they will tell me that because I'm lower level than most of them, its rule of thumb for them to help me and I don't have to repay or compensate that, that to me is not working, because I'm a competitive person and I only do fair trade. If I sell at full price for a trade, I expect the same, don't tell me because you're higher level, more coins is not much use to you, that's why you sell at cheaper price to me. Me and my wife left, as we don't want to feel useless. I announced back then to a mod to delete my recruitment posts because I don't want the same thing to happen with my NH just because I recruited more members. Only the Co-Leader there knows about the issues I'm facing there.

I'm just waiting for Nick to tell me, if his team is not going to tweak the 5th checkpoint and my NH needs at least 3 players in order to reach the 5th checkpoint, then am I allowed to create a 2nd farm to join my NH just for the sake of hitting the 5th checkpoint? If he gives me a green light, then I'll stop bickering here. Thank you all for your comments.

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In my neighborhood, if someone is selling to a neighbor for a request it is always at the default price, whether it is a high level selling to a low level or vice versa. If someone just has extra stuff to sell, they put it in their shop for as much as they want, and let people know they have good stuff for sale. I wouldn't think of trying to make a profit (sell for max) when a neighbor asks if I can spare something, that's what the DD is for. ��

And as far as the problem of a 1 or 2 member neighborhood not being able to get the fifth checkpoint, just be glad that such a small neighborhood is allowed to be in the derby at all. In Clash of Clans, you need at least 10 people in your clan to participate in Clan Wars.

Also, SC has always told us clashers that 1 account per device is allowed, so if you have a tablet & a phone you can have 2 accounts.

On Topic: We have 30 in our NH. Last derby, very competitive and we came in 4th. This one, we are in 1st with just over 8,000; 2nd place has 6,300; and 3rd place has 5,100. 4th & 5th are right around 100, and none of the others have anything.

Out of 15 NHs only 1 has 0 points. Our nh is 1st with barely over 16700 points (all 5 rewards wooohooo) and have 27 members, almost all are active and daily players.
Other 13 nhs listed have at least 4000 points, 2nd has around 12000 and 3rd aroun 10000 I think.

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Originally Posted by Spleenless9

And as far as the problem of a 1 or 2 member neighborhood not being able to get the fifth checkpoint, just be glad that such a small neighborhood is allowed to be in the derby at all. In Clash of Clans, you need at least 10 people in your clan to participate in Clan Wars.

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SC only mentioned that in order to participate in Derby, we have to join a NH, but didn't mentioned that we have to have at least 3 members in order to reach 5th checkpoint.

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Originally Posted by zen2071

SC only mentioned that in order to participate in Derby, we have to join a NH, but didn't mentioned that we have to have at least 3 members in order to reach 5th checkpoint.

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First, the prizes are not that great. Reaching 5th checkpoint really not that big a deal

Second, 2 people are not a hood they are a family.

3rd. There are some hoods that do not even allow chat, asking or giving help. They got together for town visitors only.

4th. SC probably does not want to encourage people not to join "proper" hoods - the kind they envisioned when they started them.

Choices in life have consequences. Do not like the consequences, rethink your choice. Want to stay separated from other farmers, that is great. No problem. No checkpoint.

Buy the way. It may offend you, but i really do not need any coin. Nothing left to buy. If you do not want to buy what i have to sell for 1 coin, do not buy it. Problem solved.

Happy farming

Oh this time there was no competition at all. We are like 25.000 horseshoe ahead of the first runner up and we even took over some 240-250 hs tasks towards the end. Normally we do 280+

For the first time there are a couple of hoods that scored zero overall.

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Originally Posted by haydayforum

First, the prizes are not that great. Reaching 5th checkpoint really not that big a deal

Second, 2 people are not a hood they are a family.

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Agreed. The prizes aren't something I'm going to lose sleep over. But if they are going to have a 5th checkpoint, at least make it reachable for my Army of 2 :D

30 people isn't a hood, it's a clan :)

It certainly isn't the prizes on offer which make the Derby interesting, it's the challenge itself.

In our NH we learnt on the first mini-derby when we came 2nd, the first full week one we came 1st well ahead of the rest, and we're currently way out in the lead in this week's, something like 10-12,000 ahead of the next NH.

It brings all of us together and we enjoy seeing the fact that we're a competitive NH with great active members.

There is at least one lot who have 0 this week too.

But wouldn't it be good if Neighbourhoods started to become seeded based on each week's results and then got drawn against each other in upper/middle/lower quartiles. Then it would be game on:D