How do you feel when raided?

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March 18th, 2015
kingslayer1990

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I've been attacking this poor game play issue with defense for a while now (as some here know), but sorely lacking real usable feedback and data. I'm assuming a lot of things, which likely are correct to a large degree, but I want to make sure.

This is one of my assumptions is that defense utterly sucks. Because of repeated bad experiences with defense (up until end-game at late stage TH9 and TH10), you have people keeping the game logged on as long as possible with no offline openings while raiding, and using the exposed Town Hall layout to hide from punitive raids. That basically tells me defense is a very bad experience, and highly counter to one's village growth, and in turn, fun. I see this as a root cause to several complaints people have, and if this gets addressed, so will the other issues be addressed indirectly!

I agree. I believe defenses should be able to hold off attacks, to a certain extent, by attackers below you and one level above you. For example, a TH7 should be able to fend off uncoordinated attacks from up to TH8. Now, if an intelligent attack with a clear and precise strategy breaks my defense, then they deserved it. Overall, the AI for both defense and troops should be improved i believe.
March 18th, 2015
Xitra

I have several accounts. Maybe "several" is the wrong word. A few?

Anyway, on my newest account, a TH4, I pushed my way up to about 800 trophies to find good loot. I didn't want to go higher than that, because, well, I'm only TH4. At the time, I didn't even have wall breakers yet. It's amazing how much you don't even think about walls, until you're a TH4 without wall breakers. All of the sudden, anything more than wooden walls start to look daunting...

Anyway, I parked at 800 trophies, got my upgrades going, got my income up (collectors/mines), and then just stopped raiding. I would sit for hours with no shield. I won like a dozen consecutive raids over the course of 3 days, got pushed all the way up to about 1040 trophies. I only finally lost a raid, because I got raided 3 times last night. The first two raids failed, but cleaned out my CC. The third guy, a TH5 with balloons, finally took me out, because I don't have my AD yet. (Saving the build until my next war.)

To be honest, I was damn proud! Decent base layout, maxed CC with 15 troops space, TH8 troops in the CC, and bam! Got 22 or 23 defense wins in the last week.

Whatever loot I lose, I make up in hours, so I honestly don't care how much loot they take, as long as I win the battles.

On my higher accounts, getting raided gives me mixed reactions. I'm curious to see if they've found a weak spot in my defenses. Even though my TH is in the corner, I know I'll probably get raided when my loot is high enough. So even though I'm hoping for the shield, I still try to keep my defenses strong. When they find exploit a weakness I know about, and am unable to fix at the moment, I get a little bummed out. Nothing I could do but watch the inevitable. When they find a weakness I didn't know was there, I usually at least try to look on the bright side: something I can do to prevent the next raid from being so successful.

I haven't been 3-starred in months on either of my TH7+ accounts. My defenseless account (currently TH7) actually doesn't get 3-starred very often either, which is kinda funny. I don't care when it gets raided, because I know it's bound to happen. Honestly, I'm surprised when people take the TH snipe and move on, and grateful too!

I would like to defend more often, and when I don't have much loot to offer, I put my TH inside. But why would anyone hit my base when I don't have loot to offer? So I usually sit for hours, until my collectors fill up. Most of the collectors are inside walls. Can be reached with archers, but the enemy is going to lose troops to get them, so that weeds out the lower TH attackers.

If I didn't lose more in a raid than I could make up in a raid, I suppose I would be okay with defending. Actually, that gives me an idea. Well, an expansion on an idea I had before. I'll drop that in my next post so it's easier to reply to.
March 18th, 2015
victort

Overall, I'd say, care a little.....

If it's a th10 with max troops it's annoying, but hey, I will be doing the same when I get there and my aq is in her 30's

Anyone else, I check replays to see if base needs tweaking....

If it's a zap.... who am I to whine, afterall i'm an inveterate zapper......

I don't bother with targeted revenge, I just idly go through my defense log occasionaly, and smack anyone who has loot and is available...

The attacks I find most annoying, are those who revenge me, long after they are gone from my attack log... It irritates me that I don't know who came off best, or what I did in the original attack.....:cool: (fortunately, revenges are as rare as hens teeth, thanks to our friendly snipers)
March 18th, 2015
kingslayer1990

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Originally Posted by victort

The attacks I find most annoying, are those who revenge me, long after they are gone from my attack log... It irritates me that I don't know who came off best, or what I did in the original attack.....:cool:

Yea I wish they wouldn't go away either. It sucks not being able to compare attacks.
March 18th, 2015
Json8r

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Originally Posted by Fanboy39

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March 18th, 2015
rwelshjr

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

Sorry, no suggestions on this thread. This is data gathering so I can make some better suggestions later. Please vote, and feel free to make comments on the experience. This could be a General forum topic, but I'm wanting info from here. If someone does do this in General, or elsewhere, please let me know! I want to see the results :D

On average, (based on the last raids during the last two months, if you need something precise) and ignoring any times being just Town Hall snipped, how did you feel when you were raided, regardless of the win or loss condition?

Comments in () are just examples of feelings to help with voting.

Reported as perfectly sensible and interesting question.
March 18th, 2015
victort

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Reported to the dikchead police... via the Muppet monitoring department, as it looks like one of kermit's pals has got loose:facepalm:
March 18th, 2015
Xitra

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Originally Posted by Xitra

If I didn't lose more in a raid than I could make up in a raid, I suppose I would be okay with defending. Actually, that gives me an idea. Well, an expansion on an idea I had before. I'll drop that in my next post so it's easier to reply to.

I made a suggestion a couple weeks ago, when the clan perks came out. (I didn't make it an "official" suggestion in this subforum... maybe I should?)

What about league perks? I mean, the league bonus is a kind of perk, right? And so is the league badge.

But I'm talking about perks similar to the clan perks. Here are some suggestions:
1. Attack Loot Bonus %. I'm not talking about a flat bonus for winning. I'm talking about a multiplier for the loot that you raid. For example, with a 20% loot bonus, if you raid 120k gold / 100k elixir / 1500 DE, you would get a bonus of 24k gold / 20k elixir / 300 DE. On top of the league bonus. This would encourage people to hit bases with loot, rather than just sniping TH's or barching for 50%. Based on attacker's league.

2. Defense Loot Protection %. This is like the attack bonus, but for defense. For example, at 20%, let's say you get raided for the same 120k gold / 100k elixir / 1500 DE. Well, you would actually only lose 96k gold, 80k elixir, 1200 DE, because of the loot protection. Based on defender's league.

3. Resource Collector % Increase. Boosts collector/mine/drill output, and stacks with the gem boosts.

Combining 1 and 2, the attacker would get 144k gold, 120k elixir, 1800 DE, but the defender would only lose 96k gold, 80k elixir, 1200 DE. The difference would come out of thin air, due to the league perks.

Basically, these league perks would encourage people to move up in leagues, and it would help protect/produce loot at higher leagues.

I don't know what percentages should kick in when, but here's just some wild guesses:

Bronze III - Attack Loot +5%
Bronze II - Defense Loot -5%
Bronze I - Collector +5%
Silver III - Attack Loot +10%
Silver II - Defense Loot -10%
Silver I - Collector +10%
Gold III - Attack Loot +15%
Gold II - Defense Loot -15%
Gold I - Collector +15%
Crystal III - Attack Loot +20%
Crystal II - Defense Loot -20%
Crystal I - Collector +20%
Masters III - Attack Loot +25%
Masters II - Defense Loot -25%
Masters I - Collector +25%
Champs III - Attack Loot +30%
Champs II - Defense Loot -30%
Champs I - Collector +30%

Yes, I know that there isn't a Champs 1-3. Yet. Obviously those would need to be added. maybe 3200-3600 Champs 3, 3600-4000 Champs 2, 4000+ Champs 1?

Anyway, just an idea I was kicking around. For TH8's, hanging out in silver I gives only 10% perks. Pushing up to Gold 1 means 15% perks, which might slightly offset the extra difficulty on defending. TH9's might find it reasonably to push to masters, rather than hang out in gold.
March 18th, 2015
rwelshjr

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Originally Posted by Fanboy39

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March 18th, 2015
ironagedave

For me there are several feelings towards raids, as there are several different types of attack.

One the good raid - yes you just went for my th
two the irksome raid - damn you zapped me
the b-a-s-t-a-r-d raid - you expertly harvested my a-s-s and took a substantial amount of my stored up loot.
the beautifully crafted raid - I once saw a level 40 queen with just heal spells get 2 star on a partially rushed but still defensively strong town hall 10 - it was probably the best raid I saw, perfectly executed.
the laughable - you tried to take on my base and not snipe my TH ROTFL, or giant drop are you kidding me?
the bonus raid - 1 archer drop.

Hope this input has helped XD

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