Game Suggestion: Penalty for leaving war before it ends

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

Penalties and restrictions wont work and in fact will likely backfire.

They will either drop a barb twice as described.

Or they will troll your clan until it forces you to kick them which is more damaging than if they just go.

I am sorry you are struggling. pasted here is a quote from a different thread where someone was having the same issue you were. Please read it all and try adopting. I am actually pretty comfortable it will help if you do this stuff. It was written before opt out became available so this stuff is even easier to implement now.

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Yes, these are all perfect suggestions. I wasn't aware that SC was never going to implement anything negative (in all honesty it's a good form of keeping consumers).

Thank you for your input!

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Originally Posted by Gama321

Only go to war with people who will attack then. You are the one who let these hoppers war and yet it doesnt seem that you feel any remorse or have reflected on your actions. They should penalise the person who started the war so he is aware of his position a little.

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So what your saying is that I should be able to read the future, then? Because how am I suppose to know that a person will or wont attack? I've had people leave the clan during a war without attacking and they've attacked in previous wars. Your logic is extremely flawed.

Will not work. Apparently I war with our sister clan and we finish both of our ATTACKs, we would leave the clan to return. I would love it, if you would be penalized for not attacking

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Originally Posted by Thatdude23

Will not work. Apparently I war with our sister clan and we finish both of our ATTACKs, we would leave the clan to return. I would love it, if you would be penalized for not attacking

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Yes, We've mentioned that before. It would be for people who have not attacked at all.

I wish we could punish them lol but...

I have heard of clans recruiting people, starting wars, kicking those people out so they cant war, and then cancel the war. Those poor people are left unable to war for two days for a war that doesnt exist.

Request and leave clans that want easy war stars do this too (without the cancelling part).

they are humans they will not attack anyway (u cant force them to attack) also if they cant leave they will make u kick them

they will give goblins to every request
they will sit their base to be super easy to 3 star
they will waste both attacks for nothing

u cant force them to do what u want

First of all, no one can force you to be in a war if you've opted out. There should be a penalty but ONLY IF you leave the clan without using both your attacks. If you have then i don't see any reason why you should be given a penalty, you have done yout part. Also, the penalty should be something like not eligible for war for 2 days. Or maybe just one day, prep day is a pain which will make it 3 :/

can we not just hunt them down like dogs?

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Originally Posted by LordOfMayhem

I wish we could punish them lol but...

I have heard of clans recruiting people, starting wars, kicking those people out so they cant war, and then cancel the war. Those poor people are left unable to war for two days for a war that doesnt exist.

Request and leave clans that want easy war stars do this too (without the cancelling part).

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i dont think you are war locked if they stop the search

First off, I would love a 7 day curse for people that leave clans without attacking that would prevent them going to war again. I thought about the idea several days ago, and then quickly realized how easy it is to get around it. Just like previous people said, they could just drop a single troop and get around it.


What we need is a rating system. When someone leaves the clan, a message pops up just like when you can accept or reject someone wanting to join the clan, but the message will allow you to give them a thumbs up or a thumbs down. It's a simple idea. Of course, I would either like to leave comments or rate them 1-5 on several criteria, but let's keep it simple with a thumbs up or a thumbs down. Now, either the whole clan can vote, or just elders and up, or just the leader and co-leaders. Should everyone be able to vote, the votes should be weighted based on their position in the clan - member votes worth 1, elder worth 2, co and leader worth 3. The final stat would look like 30/60 or 80/100 based the number of people that voted.


Then simply put it on the player's profile. Either keep just the last clan stats until clan rating resets or keep an average for all the clans during say the last season. Perhaps, put the number of clans that rated them too. If they do the average they obviously have to get a common denominator when different size clans vote, ect. So the stat would just say "# of clans X Score of xx/xx."

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Originally Posted by irevenge

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What we need is a rating system. . . .


Then simply put it on the player's profile. . ."

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Oh goodie. I get to repeat myself again!!!

First to your quotes, SC has a long standing policy of not putting a negative statistic/badge/mark/rank/etc. of any kind on any players profile. They have a fairly strict no name-n-shame policy, as they should. You can accept those ideas as ruled out at face value.

Second for the OP. . .

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Originally Posted by iceageg

You need to remember who you are complaining about here. Either the player leaving is leaving because you have a poor clan and/or poor leadership, or they are leaving because they have questionable moral integrity. For the sake of argument lets assume you are a wise and effective leader, so this must be one of those d-bags that hangs you out to dry. If you get your way and players are forced to stay or penalized for leaving . . . <fade to foreshadowed scene>

1) D-bag joins
2) You start war
3) D-bag wants to leave but can't (SUCCESS!!! He is stuck with you now!!!)
4) D-bag is a d-bag and wants out, so he decides to get kicked out
5) So he fills war castles with goblins and wallbreakers
6) And fills donations with goblins and wall breakers
7) And turns your clan chat into something that makes global look like bible study
8) And defames your clan on global
9) Then wastes both attacks in the war anyway
9a) Set their base up so it is super easy to 3*
10) And continues to fill war requests with ♥♥♥♥ troops
11) Maybe even comes to the forums to badmouth you and your clan
12) You kick them out
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12) Your other clan members leave because you won't kick out the D-bag

Remember, this is already a person who doesn't care if they hurt your clan. Long story short, you are requesting a way to force people who don't want to be in your clan, who you don't even want in your clan, to be stuck in your clan. NOTHING good can come of this. Bad idea every time it is suggested.

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Also, in an effort to not only help the OP understand the horrible repercussions of their idea, here is a list of many of the most common things successful clans do to prevent "D-bag hoppers" from being a nuisance (a nuisance, not a problem). Quoting myself from a recent thread again . . .

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Originally Posted by iceageg

Most people who switch between clans do it for very good, fruitful reasons. Since the game can't tell these players from your much maligned "hoppers" the majority of us would end up penalized because a few players who didn't want to be in your clan but you let in anyway. The truly nefarious hoppers are usually very easy to spot and deal with. Players who are genuinely searching for a clan are simply part of the game, just like people searching for the right job are a part of real life. What you have hear is a clan management problem. One all of us have experienced and learned from. It has been discussed on the forum many times. Here's how most of us have solved this.

1) Set the clan to invite only.
2) Don't give elder to anybody who can't conduct themselves as an adult
3) Don't give Co-leader to anybody you don't trust
4) Make sure both elders and Co's understand that it is ok to accept new members
5) Make sure they understand they are expected to BOOT new members if
5a) They introduce themselves by asking for troops
5b) Introduce themselves with profanity
5c) Introduce themselves with some form of "rate my base!!!!"
5d) Don't respond when welcomed
5e) Ask for elder/Co in the first conversation
5f) Start filling castles with ♥♥♥♥
6) Clan rule that new members don't participate in the first war (Opted out by leader/co)
7) Only recruit 1-2 new players between each war, none during

Others may chime in with additional ideas but those are the basic ones. Follow those and hoppers will end 99% instantly. Not to mention you will crack a smile when you apply your boots to their crack.

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All of us clan leader types have experienced this and learned to preventing through our own leadership skills and clan rules. There is no need to institute a system that will punish the most social and giving players while making the lowest quality players more destructive.

In my time on the forum here I still have yet to see the answer to these simple questions. Why do you want to force somebody that you don't want in your clan, to be stuck in your clan? What does that say about you as a person?