Game Suggestion: Penalty for leaving war before it ends

Starting a new clan is difficult enough; especially when no one may know one another, loyalty is hard to come by, and more often than not, people will attempt to destroy a clan far quicker than they will attempt to help it grow.

I've been in clans for months, weeks, days, and hours (depending on the other members' personalities), but I've never left a clan during a war without doing both my attacks first. I just find it rude and inconsiderate, because every attack counts and not doing even one attack can be detrimental to the entire war.

I'm in a new war now, with a new clan. Our first war we had 3 people leave just as it started, we won the war but only by 1 star. still, very frustrating, especially considering that the entire clan is very well rounded, not abusive or mean in any way.

This is our second war now and 5 out of 20 people left right as it started, 6 if you include the guy who only did one attack. Again, we are winning, but that's not the point. The point is how easy it is for anyone to screw over an entire clan with one simple click of a button.

So, I'm suggesting that SUPERCELL were to implement a penalty system into the wars, where if you want to leave a war before you've attacked at all, you must pay a fine to do so. Nothing terribly extreme, but just enough so that there is an actual negative consequence by leaving during a war.

Buy out of the war by using gems, gold, elixir, or dark elixir. But for the damage it causes, there should be some negative effect for the person who causes that damage.

Anyone else agree?

I definitely agree, as a leader its a pain when people hop, and are included in wars!

actually no just for the fact that sometimes you never wanted to be in the war in the first place. It would really annoy me if I joined a clan for the first time, set my preference to opt out as I was still feeling out the clan and a leader or co started a war ignored my preference and put me in it and then I'd have to pay my way out of it if it turned out I couldn't stand the clan.

maybe an 5(could be any number) day war ban?

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Originally Posted by kirky74

actually no just for the fact that sometimes you never wanted to be in the war in the first place. It would really annoy me if I joined a clan for the first time, set my preference to opt out as I was still feeling out the clan and a leader or co started a war ignored my preference and put me in it and then I'd have to pay my way out of it if it turned out I couldn't stand the clan.

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I wasn't aware that they could force you to be in a war? But, if that's the case, then it wouldnt be difficult to program a line of code that prevents you from being penalized if you've opted out.

But to avoid this the people can attack with only a barbarian so SC can't give the penality
Sorry for my awful english

Only go to war with people who will attack then. You are the one who let these hoppers war and yet it doesnt seem that you feel any remorse or have reflected on your actions. They should penalise the person who started the war so he is aware of his position a little.

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Originally Posted by Arithen

I wasn't aware that they could force you to be in a war? But, if that's the case, then it wouldnt be difficult to program a line of code that prevents you from being penalized if you've opted out.

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Penalties and restrictions wont work and in fact will likely backfire.

They will either drop a barb twice as described.

Or they will troll your clan until it forces you to kick them which is more damaging than if they just go.

I am sorry you are struggling. pasted here is a quote from a different thread where someone was having the same issue you were. Please read it all and try adopting. I am actually pretty comfortable it will help if you do this stuff. It was written before opt out became available so this stuff is even easier to implement now.

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

Understood your anger and emotions, completely justified.

However SC has a policy to never post negative stats and this would go against that. So this might not be directly 'ruled out' but via that policy it still is.

Here are some things you can do...

• Make guys sit through at least one full war before joining into one. Depending on your schedule that will be at least 2 days, (and maybe you want to make it one war or 4 days whichever comes first) a hopper will leave before that. Remember that the biggest weakness hoppers have is a lack of patience so use that against them.
• Watch for unexpired war timers. The more time left the bigger the alarm that is. Maybe a guy with an hour left finished out his war, but guys closer to a full 25 hours that looks like they ditched someone. A good reliable war guy will as a course of pride still follow through with their war obligations even in bad situation they plan to ditch as soon as it is over. Guys that don't are proving themselves not to be the real deal however they want to believe otherwise. So ignore what they tell you and know what you are looking at.
• In absence of negative stats use the positive ones to infer what the story probably is. What level is the guy? That gives you an idea how long he has been around. How much war loot and/or war stars has he gotten vs how long he has been playing? A habitual war hopper will have very low numbers.
• Ask him. A lot of times they say things like the other clan stinks or they don't donate. Ask him the clan name. If he won't give it (I don't remember = ♥♥, they are avoiding telling you) that's an answer right there) If he does then take a look at them. If he says they never donate then check their numbers to see how true. if he says they are bad at war check their wins.

Use the above in combination. If their story and other indicators are not adding up well enough extend the waiting period before you are willing to rely on them in a war. Always be up front. Tell them what you see that concerns you. Its fair to give them a chance to speak to it and often informative if it leads them into BSing that you then catch. The legitimate guys will understand exactly what is going on and will understand also if something looks bad and they need to let you take your time. The ones that can't handle answering a few questions or act like they are put out to have to wait will almost always be guys you are better off losing.

Never feel beholden to anyone. Some guys believe or at least represent themselves to be some sort of prize that you should be after. (Yes, there are hoppers who actually think you should feel blessed at your good fortune to have been hopped by them) Don't get excited because they have a high level base. A single reliable level 50 is worth more than a hundred unreliable level 100s. (and in war it's even true that sometimes a reliable level 50 is worth more than a reliable level 100) If they are not reliable then they are nothing. That's important. Also don't get flustered at any talk that you are blowing your 'big chance' if you make them decide to leave. There are NO single players in all of coc that by themselves are anyone's big chance. No one guy makes or breaks a clan. I have received many parting speeches about how I blew it and have now lost out on my chance to save my clan (we are on a 17 war win streak, how much saving do we need) and screwed my entire clan that will now be ruined. We are still waiting for that ruin to hit, but I'll let you know.

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Nothing wrong with leaving during a war, the problem is people leaving without doing their attacks.

There should be some negative for abandoning wars. Maybe SC will accept a short term negative, such as ineligible to war for seven days after being in a war and not using an attack.

This is to get people who join, are opted-in, and just can't be bothered. Attacking the lowest already-three-starred target with one barbarian should be enough to escape the seven day curse. Should only apply to players opted-in for the war.