Skull Walls with elixir - with a twist

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March 18th, 2015
Seuss145

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Originally Posted by DarkLord10928

Another idea would be to simply let TH8s upgrade their walls to level 9, so they would have a way to dump some of their elixir.

Already lvl 8 walls are hard to upgrade at th8, what about lvl 9 walls? You just want to make it harder dont you, even then, that option would cripple the economy and SC would change it to lvl 10+
March 18th, 2015
DarkLord10928

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Originally Posted by Seuss145

Ok want a better one? How about those:
When you take away elixir at the bottom of the food chain, the higher guys do not get any of the elixir. So the economy crippled. With lvl 8 walks at th8, it's a major issue, as lvl 8 walls aren't overly expensive and a th8 can quickly max out elixir then channel everything to his/her walls. So there is no more elixir for th9's and 10's. The reason SC made it lvl 9 walls and up was because those wall upgrades are insanely expensive, 1 mil for 9, 3 for 10, and 4 for 11. With that, the troop upgrades are extremely high, 6-8mil average. So a th9 is storing mass amounts of elixir more often and is a capped raid. Also, by the time a th9 maxes out wlixir, most or all of the walls would already be lvl 9 so a th9 is holding close to 3 mil usually, this makes it easy for th9's and 10's to attack them and get the elixir.
So the wall upgrading with elixir option doesn't cripple the economy for th9's and th10's when it is at lvl 9+, however at lvl 8+, it will defenitely effect th9's and also th10's, as there would be no more elixir to raid, thus, crippling the economy.

I don't think you understand my point: this will not change the amount of loot you find. Read Xitra's first post on the subject, he explained it better than I ever could have.

Edit: He seems to have deleted it? Not sure, but you can just see my answer where I quoted his post.
March 18th, 2015
Xitra

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Originally Posted by DarkLord10928

I don't think you understand my point: this will not change the amount of loot you find. Read Xitra's first post on the subject, he explained it better than I ever could have.

Edit: He seems to have deleted it? Not sure, but you can just see my answer where I quoted his post.

My post is still there, on page 2.

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Originally Posted by Seuss145

Ok want a better one? How about those:
When you take away elixir at the bottom of the food chain, the higher guys do not get any of the elixir. So the economy crippled. With lvl 8 walks at th8, it's a major issue, as lvl 8 walls aren't overly expensive and a th8 can quickly max out elixir then channel everything to his/her walls. So there is no more elixir for th9's and 10's. The reason SC made it lvl 9 walls and up was because those wall upgrades are insanely expensive, 1 mil for 9, 3 for 10, and 4 for 11. With that, the troop upgrades are extremely high, 6-8mil average. So a th9 is storing mass amounts of elixir more often and is a capped raid. Also, by the time a th9 maxes out wlixir, most or all of the walls would already be lvl 9 so a th9 is holding close to 3 mil usually, this makes it easy for th9's and 10's to attack them and get the elixir.
So the wall upgrading with elixir option doesn't cripple the economy for th9's and th10's when it is at lvl 9+, however at lvl 8+, it will defenitely effect th9's and also th10's, as there would be no more elixir to raid, thus, crippling the economy.

I totally agree with you. But you missed the point of the suggestion. If implemented as suggested, a TH8 would not be able to spend all their elixir. They would still be offering the cap (300k elixir). They would only be able to spend elixir that is truly in excess of what could be raided. This would have virtually no impact on the economy.

I say virtually, because obviously it would have an impact on the economy. Those TH8's would have stronger walls (purchased with elixir), which would make them harder to raid. They also might choose not to use crazy expensive armies, since they no longer feel the need to "burn" elixir that would otherwise be useless to them.

But this suggestion is not going to reduce the elixir in circulation for TH9's to farm.
March 18th, 2015
Drackos

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Originally Posted by DarkLord10928

We all know the struggles of excess elixir at TH8. When you are a midway - maxed TH8, you constantly have max elixir storages and nothing helpful to spend it on.
So here's my idea:
Return the ability to upgrade lvl 7-8 walls with elixir... But you can only upgrade them if you have over the max amount of storage to have the max amount of elixir stolen from you. For example: I believe the max amount of elixir available to be raided requires 2.14 million elixir. You would be able to upgrade a wall if you had over 2.64 million elixir, so you could use the excess elixir but not drain elixir from the economy.
Leave your thoughts, comments, and hateful messages below! (Preparing for the inevitable :P)

I'm fine with just towmhall 8 walls. Level 7 walls weren't even hard to do. So I suggest since you THINK you have the solution and you MIGHT have it. That's you choose 8 instead of 8 and 7
March 18th, 2015
KrashX

The real solution

It would be much better and more balanced, if spending walls with elixir cost MORE than with gold. EX: 500k gold for lvl 8, and 600k with elixir. Something like that
March 19th, 2015
Drackos

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Originally Posted by KrashX

It would be much better and more balanced, if spending walls with elixir cost MORE than with gold. EX: 500k gold for lvl 8, and 600k with elixir. Something like that

Not really balanced as the value of gold would be less.
March 19th, 2015
Medici

Upgrade to th 9. Problem solved.
March 19th, 2015
DarkLord10928

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Originally Posted by Medici

Upgrade to th 9. Problem solved.

So you are saying to go to TH9 with half maxed defenses, lvl 7 walls, half of your research done as soon as you start experiencing the TH8 elixir problem? No. The thing is, all TH8s about halfway through experience this problem, and instead of just saying "Go to TH9! Problem solved!", this problem needs to be fixed. We don't want to be a rushed TH9, so we need to fix this problem and these are some possible ways how. Imagine this problem at early TH9 and everyone says "Go to TH10!" That's not very helpful, is it.
March 19th, 2015
Medici

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Originally Posted by DarkLord10928

So you are saying to go to TH9 with half maxed defenses, lvl 7 walls, half of your research done as soon as you start experiencing the TH8 elixir problem? No. The thing is, all TH8s about halfway through experience this problem, and instead of just saying "Go to TH9! Problem solved!", this problem needs to be fixed. We don't want to be a rushed TH9, so we need to fix this problem and these are some possible ways how. Imagine this problem at early TH9 and everyone says "Go to TH10!" That's not very helpful, is it.

Sounds like a personal problem. My solution works 100% as intended. When is not my concern.
March 19th, 2015
DarkLord10928

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Originally Posted by Medici

Sounds like a personal problem. My solution works 100% as intended. When is not my concern.

We need to think about everyone. Evidentially, you have no experience with TH8 and its struggles involving elixir, which means you are TH7 or below, or you rushed TH8 to get to TH9. Some people simply aren't like that. They need to max everything out, or at least most of it, before upgrading to the next TH level, like me. For the TH8 maxers, this problem needs to be solved.
On a side note, I didn't say that your strategy didn't work, just that a lot of TH8s wouldn't agree with it.

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