Problems with BARCH [Advice needed]

Every guide I read preaches the gospel of BARCH, everyone says it is the easiest way to farm, and the most efficient for making gains on walls and elixir upgrades. But I have just not found that to be true, every time I try to BARCH, the only thing that I get is a mediocre payout and a renewed resolve not to use BARCH. I used BARCH for a good chunk of my time in TH8, but now as a TH9, I have found that it is really difficult to find anything worth raiding.
My issues with BARCH:
-I have a hard time finding bases with high loot (dont like to rely on collector bases)
-It feels very weak since the 4th mortars were added

Questions I have:
-Is Barching only worth it if you play in sessions? (I generally raid about once an hour, running Loonion right now)
-What is considered acceptable loot for a BARCH raid?
-Will I need to be next'ing for a long time? (because I have a 5-10 minute tolerance for nexting)
-What is a good BARCH composition?

DISCLAIMER: I am a fairly casual player, I enjoy this game, but dont often sit down and raid in sessions.

What trophy range are you farming in? I stick to crystal 1 mostly and I can usually find a decent collector raid within 5-10 min of nexting, usually not even that long. I hear good things about the Gold range, but I like the win bonus of Crystal too much.

My criteria for raiding is a base with full collectors as well as easily accessible ones with at least 100K or close too if I'm getting sick of nexting.

When I barch I use two finger and drop barbs first, surrounding the base, then archers in the same fashion. Spells and Royals for clean up if needed, but I try to avoid it.

I'm not too informed of the BarchLife, but having 8 wall breakers within your composition will help out ALOT if you are trying to barch.

Whenever I use barch, I always rely on collectors to find loot. I usually go for 100k or more in each resource other than DE. However, if the collectors are easy to get with minimal troop usage, I'll take 80k or more. I always have 1 rax full of barbs and the other 3 full of archers and always carry heal spells. As always, barbs first then archers. If it's a must, or if you're going after storages, heal spells and royals will help tremendously. Instead of the typical 2-finger drop or 4-finger drop, I "dissect" the base. Couple of barbs and archers on one collector, as long as its enough to take it out.

Here is my guide to barch: http://clashfordummies.com/2015/03/0...barch-farming/

Hope this one is better than the previous ones!

I'm a lower level but I've pretty much given up on barch already. Ever since I started using giants, I've been much better at raiding. Also, I usually add 4 or 5 goblins which I deploy near the end if I'm pressed for time. Of course, I also use some archers and barbarians, but not that many.
I'd say if you intend to farm the really juicy bases you need about 4 wall breakers, but the total elixir and time cost does add up.

Basically from what I understand if you barch you're not even trying to get ALL the resources.

Barch can farm a ton of loot if done correctly. First, you need to look for bases with either collectors or full storages that are easy to get to. I usually to 2 barracks barbs 2 arch, but you can do 3 arch if you want. Nexting usually takes a few minutes to find a good base. Just deploy a couple of barbs on a mine/collector, followed by a few archers.

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Originally Posted by Hexquo

Every guide I read preaches the gospel of BARCH, everyone says it is the easiest way to farm, and the most efficient for making gains on walls and elixir upgrades. But I have just not found that to be true, every time I try to BARCH, the only thing that I get is a mediocre payout and a renewed resolve not to use BARCH. I used BARCH for a good chunk of my time in TH8, but now as a TH9, I have found that it is really difficult to find anything worth raiding.
My issues with BARCH:
-I have a hard time finding bases with high loot (dont like to rely on collector bases)
-It feels very weak since the 4th mortars were added

Questions I have:
-Is Barching only worth it if you play in sessions? (I generally raid about once an hour, running Loonion right now)
-What is considered acceptable loot for a BARCH raid?
-Will I need to be next'ing for a long time? (because I have a 5-10 minute tolerance for nexting)
-What is a good BARCH composition?

DISCLAIMER: I am a fairly casual player, I enjoy this game, but dont often sit down and raid in sessions.

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i think most barchers sit for hours an barch away for profit but low profit, i prefer to attack once or twice than leave i use a stronger army for bigger loot

"dont like to rely on collector bases)" theres your problem from the start. You expect to get into the center of a th9 and get all their storages? I think not... Especially with a cassic barch. You can always try giants or bloonion

To raid active bases, add some giants to your army.