War bets for more loot

Everyone knows wars are expensive. War loot was raised recently (I think) which helps, but still seems like winnings should be better for all the time, effort, resources spent. It would be great to have a betting "table" where my clan members can put up gold/elixir/dark against their clan. Nobody would be required to contribute to the clan wager, but can choose to contribute if they want a chance for extra war loot. All members can contribute to the wager on war prep day and resources bet will be taken from the user and held until the war ends. At the end of the war anyone one from the winning clan that contributed resources to the wager will get a portion of the winnings from the other clan. Obviously the losing clan forfeits the resources they wagered. It would add an interesting spin on the wars and allow for more loot to be earned.

The bets would probably have to be equal from each clan, so if my clan wagers 1mil gold/elixir and 500k dark collectively, and the other clan only wagers 800k gold/elixir and 300k dark, then the difference in the wagers would be refunded to the contributing clan members and the lower wager would be the final from each clan.

This feature could tie into the new Clan Perks too. At higher clan levels, the losing clan is refunded a certain percentage of their bets.

they need to change it so you get all the loot in your clan castle rather than just what fills it, i often have players get 300 400k a war and their clan castle only holds 250k, they cant upgrade till they upgrade th and they wont do that till they max everything at th5, why does it have a limit anyway?

This feature could be separate from the CC loot. It doesn't have to be, but it could.

To your point... I see so many low level guys in global chat looking for war clans. Lots of them want to be warring constantly. These lower level would be better served focusing less on wars and more on upgrades. If you want to max out your stuff before upgrading your TH, go to war less often and start raiding/farming for upgrades.

This "war wagers" idea is mainly for those of us who spend a ton of loot filling people's war bases with good troops, spending lots of loot to build an army worthy of earning stars on good war bases, and donate good troops to others to use for their attacks. In addition, while building all of these expensive troops that can take a long time to make and focusing on war battles, it's makes it harder to do raids so you will be missing out on stealing loot you would have gotten if you weren't at war. There are so many times when war win loot doesn't come close to covering the cost of going to war. If I was able to get more loot by "betting" on our clan, that would certainly help.

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Originally Posted by docmattman

This "war wagers" idea is mainly for those of us who spend a ton of loot filling people's war bases with good troops, spending lots of loot to build an army worthy of earning stars on good war bases, and donate good troops to others to use for their attacks. In addition, while building all of these expensive troops that can take a long time to make and focusing on war battles, it's makes it harder to do raids so you will be missing out on stealing loot you would have gotten if you weren't at war. There are so many times when war win loot doesn't come close to covering the cost of going to war. If I was able to get more loot by "betting" on our clan, that would certainly help.

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I agree completely!!!

I spend a million out of pocket on donations each war. This is for a 15 man clan......I can't imagine the costs for a 40+ clan.

Most people don't realize how quickly it adds up. That figure doesn't even include MY war army to even attack the opponent! Let's say my 14 other clanmates get a max dragon in their clan castle. That's 588k elixir, just to fill war CC's for defense. Let's use a few pekkas for donations on offense. Max pekka = 50k. so 10 clanmates want a max pekka, that's another 500k. Rest want dragons? Another 200k. I haven't even built my army yet!



This is why it's so frustrating when you don't get those stars. The "war loot" doesn't even scratch the surface of elixir or dark if you fill/donate dark troops.

Fill 10 CC's with witches and it's 3500 dark. Donate 10 witches and it's another 3500 dark......war dark is usually 2500-5k in return

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Originally Posted by Guest12345

I agree completely!!!

I spend a million out of pocket on donations each war. This is for a 15 man clan......I can't imagine the costs for a 40+ clan.

Most people don't realize how quickly it adds up. That figure doesn't even include MY war army to even attack the opponent! Let's say my 14 other clanmates get a max dragon in their clan castle. That's 588k elixir, just to fill war CC's for defense. Let's use a few pekkas for donations on offense. Max pekka = 50k. so 10 clanmates want a max pekka, that's another 500k. Rest want dragons? Another 200k. I haven't even built my army yet!



This is why it's so frustrating when you don't get those stars. The "war loot" doesn't even scratch the surface of elixir or dark if you fill/donate dark troops.

Fill 10 CC's with witches and it's 3500 dark. Donate 10 witches and it's another 3500 dark......war dark is usually 2500-5k in return

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Exactly! It's fun to go to war, but it doesn't make sense loot-wise if your clan depends on you for good troops. It also takes me away from my usual farming activities, which can provide me with a couple million gold/elixir or more on a good day. So we loose out on that potential loot as well.

I don't like the idea. It's a way to make more money from all the extra money you are putting into the war. If a clan really wants to win the war, they can spend 6 million E doing so. But to make all that back because they "bet" they can win, I don't like it.

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Originally Posted by edomingox

I don't like the idea. It's a way to make more money from all the extra money you are putting into the war. If a clan really wants to win the war, they can spend 6 million E doing so. But to make all that back because they "bet" they can win, I don't like it.

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So you aren't a fan of having your expenses covered??? I can't see how this would be a bad thing. When you attack in multiplayer mode, do you not pick bases that will earn you more resources than you spent on your troops? If war winnings can't cover the cost of going to war, then what is the point? Unless you are fully maxed out and don't have anything to spend loot on, I don't see the downside to want to cover your costs.

Remember, this wouldn't be free money that you earn from winning a war. It comes from the enemy clan. They put up money against yours and the winner takes it. It also wouldn't be mandatory, so the opposite clan doesn't have to match your clans wager or even make a wager at all.

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Originally Posted by docmattman

So you aren't a fan of having your expenses covered??? I can't see how this would be a bad thing. When you attack in multiplayer mode, do you not pick bases that will earn you more resources than you spent on your troops? If war winnings can't cover the cost of going to war, then what is the point? Unless you are fully maxed out and don't have anything to spend loot on, I don't see the downside to want to cover your costs.

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People would be encouraged to spend a lot to do whatever it takes to win the war, and at the same time, if they win, they bet the max to recover the expenses. There needs to be a balance on how much you are willing to spend to win. This war betting will offset that balance.

Yes, I only attack bases that have enough elixir to rebuild my army. What if I was to be able to bet on that? I would bet 1 million elixir that I can beat a TH 7 (I'm a TH 9) and I would use all dragons or pekkas or whatever. You lose the risk when betting can offset the value of the attack.

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Remember, this wouldn't be free money that you earn from winning a war. It comes from the enemy clan. They put up money against yours and the winner takes it. It also wouldn't be mandatory, so the opposite clan doesn't have to match your clans wager or even make a wager at all.

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Coming from the enemy clan... That won't happen if the clan is mismatched. Why would I bet against a clan that can over power mine? I (and I'm sure you) can usually tell before the war starts, who is going to win just by looking at the bases.

And the opposing clan doesn't have to match your clan's wager or even make a wager at all? Then this option has automatically failed. Why have it if the opposing team doesn't have to wager? It seems like you are only looking for someone dumb enough to make the bet.

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Originally Posted by edomingox

People would be encouraged to spend a lot to do whatever it takes to win the war, and at the same time, if they win, they bet the max to recover the expenses. There needs to be a balance on how much you are willing to spend to win. This war betting will offset that balance.

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Wars should be about your best going against their best. Otherwise, why would they allow things that are being upgraded at war time like xbows, inferno towers etc to be usable?

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Originally Posted by edomingox

Yes, I only attack bases that have enough elixir to rebuild my army. What if I was to be able to bet on that? I would bet 1 million elixir that I can beat a TH 7 (I'm a TH 9) and I would use all dragons or pekkas or whatever. You lose the risk when betting can offset the value of the attack.

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You aren't betting on each individual battle. You are investing on the outcome of the war. You wouldn't be able to bet on multiplayer raids, because the defender wouldn't have a chance to bet against you. Again, this isn't free money that drops from the sky. It's taken from the other clan who willingly chooses to put up a wager against you.

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Originally Posted by edomingox

Edit: Coming from the enemy clan... That won't happen if the clan is mismatched. Why would I bet against a clan that can over power mine? I (and I'm sure you) can usually tell before the war starts, who is going to win just by looking at the bases.

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That is true. But there are also many pretty evenly matched wars out there too. If you feel you are the underdog in a war, maybe it would be more incentive for you to use better, more expensive troops to win. Then if you be on your clan, you can offset that more by winning. Otherwise, you could like at a more powerful clan and not even bother attacking because you feel so mismatched. If you use your best troops, maybe it won't be as much of a mismatch as you think. But if you can't pay for better troops with winnings, than it's tough to be motivated to try against an "overpowered" war clan.