Reservation opponents in war

As the title, I propose a booking service inside the game to allow for a more professional management of the war strategy in the clan.


Some external services (eg. Clashcaller) have taken steps to bridge this shortfall, but I think this service must be integrated within the game as it is easier to access for members of the clan that does not have to exit the game in this case.


The benefits are known to everyone, and I am sure that most of the clans organized, already proceed to make reservations war on opponents, to handle attacks and plan the attack strategy of the clan.


For example we use messages email in the game to reserve for the attacks on the villages opponents but as you can imagine, it is not easy to plan a war when we are 35/40 and emails are only 10 available.


In any case, a dedicated service would surely have a more intuitive and less labor intensive than any other artifice or subterfuge invented. The benefits would be undisputed.


Please do not send this 3D into oblivion, comment and keep active to seriously consider this service to Supercell.


Although dissenting opinions are accepted. The important thing is to argue and discuss to give importance to this fundamental aspect of the game, yet strangely overlooked and unfulfilled.


thanks for your time


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nobody really considers this necessary funcionality? no comment?

thx

Well I think talking to your clanmates is enough. The idea is not bad, but some trolls could misuse it, too.

Now and then, we had this kind of member who attacked an opponent 10 places below him. That is pretty unfair against our weaker opponents. For exmple you are in a 25vs25 war and your number 10 is reservating number 22?

Or what if someone is reservating an opponent but then he does´nt attack? Would this opponent be blocked for the other clanmmbers?

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Originally Posted by Trivian

Now and then, we had this kind of member who attacked an opponent 10 places below him. That is pretty unfair against our weaker opponents. For exmple you are in a 25vs25 war and your number 10 is reservating number 22?

Or what if someone is reservating an opponent but then he does´nt attack? Would this opponent be blocked for the other clanmmbers?

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hello Trivian, we have internal rules on the limits of bookings through reference ranges that can be integrated into the booking engine.


In my case the reference range is built based on the number in the ranking of war. (eg. the number 1 can choose an opponent from number 1 to number 10, example 2: the number 10 can choose an opponent from number 5 to number 15)

or the range can be separated in groups of tens, where the first of our 10 may reserve in the group of the first 10 opponents, then from 11 to 20, 21 to 30, 31 to 40 and 41 to 50 (These limits can be chosen at will: for example 5 instead of 10)


As for the battle, we book course by the end of the preparations and only the first attack that must be made within 12 hours after the start of the war, otherwise the opponent back free (this time can be changed at will with a 'option in case it is integrated into the game)


if there are irresponsible behavior, we degrade the member, but these are measures that can take the boss or co-leaders based on the behavior of the members of the clan

well for me to avoid trols in your idea, i think leaders can only put reserve attk i mean... leader only has the authority to put reservations, like when rank #22 like to reserve on 10 he will ask leader to put his name on it...

were also using clashcaller cuz it helps alot thou i duno if they ccan really copy the idea of what clashcaller do in coc cause of the notes... so basically if there are no notes in this idea only reservation it will also be not good i think

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Originally Posted by alextolomei

hello Trivian, we have internal rules on the limits of bookings through reference ranges that can be integrated into the booking engine.


In my case the reference range is built based on the number in the ranking of war. (eg. the number 1 can choose an opponent from number 1 to number 10, example 2: the number 10 can choose an opponent from number 5 to number 15)

or the range can be separated in groups of tens, where the first of our 10 may reserve in the group of the first 10 opponents, then from 11 to 20, 21 to 30, 31 to 40 and 41 to 50 (These limits can be chosen at will: for example 5 instead of 10)


As for the battle, we book course by the end of the preparations and only the first attack that must be made within 12 hours after the start of the war, otherwise the opponent back free (this time can be changed at will with a 'option in case it is integrated into the game)


if there are irresponsible behavior, we degrade the member, but these are measures that can take the boss or co-leaders based on the behavior of the members of the clan

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actualy i think internal references will not be good ...
cuz in my clan usually we do 30v30 annd sometimes 40v40

and i usually command my rank 38-40 members to atk rank 1-3 of th10 clans just to get 1star (50% dmg target) and it usually work on me specialy if cant get to 2star the th10 due to max def and walls..

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Originally Posted by KAIRIURDANETACHAMPS

actualy i think internal references will not be good ...
cuz in my clan usually we do 30v30 annd sometimes 40v40

and i usually command my rank 38-40 members to atk rank 1-3 of th10 clans just to get 1star (50% dmg target) and it usually work on me specialy if cant get to 2star the th10 due to max def and walls..

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i mean references range lol sorry wrong typo in "internal references" must be the hunger dindt eat diner yet

Not much to say about it, it should have been implemented since the clan wars update.

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Originally Posted by dzabotto

Not much to say about it, it should have been implemented since the clan wars update.

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Should schmould. Why don't you get off their backs and go get your clan in order.

It will. It was on a list of planned features they published last year and have been working through ever since. This was simply lower than the others. I agree with their choice of priorities, this was definitely lower of importance than the things they did instead. This is nothing more than a crutch for poorly organized clans that can't coordinate wars making in nohing more than a minor nice to have.

So be patient. It will come.

There are so many better things they could work on than this... Just not a useful idea. Teach your clan some discipline.

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Originally Posted by TravisB

There are so many better things they could work on than this... Just not a useful idea. Teach your clan some discipline.

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I agree. There is really no way to keep high level players from attacking low levels in war than to discipline them.

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Originally Posted by TravisB

There are so many better things they could work on than this... Just not a useful idea. Teach your clan some discipline.

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Agreed. But the OP can rejoice that they are indeed going to do it. Still to your point I can understand why everything else on this list went first.

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Originally Posted by Marika[Supercell]

Here are some ideas you guys have suggested that we would like to implement. Please note that we are not confirming the addition of any of these features, but they are currently under consideration. Ideas not on this list can be safely considered "ruled out" for the time being:

War Base Layout - saved layout separate from actual village
Dismiss War Base Clan Castle Troops
Numbers next to bases
Loot adjustments
Opt-in/Opt-out of wars
More War Info
Claiming Targets

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Instead of reservation i would prefer that leaders and co leaders can change the recommended target for each player.

And write a comment field on each enemy, if you select him, you see who should attack him and some strategy advices maybe

I think we deviate from the original subject. The issue here is not whether strong players attack much weaker players, but whether there is (or should be) a way for me to communicate to my clan mates my wish to attack a certain base (whether I should be attacking the base in the first place is, as I said, a separate discussion.)

In my clan we have a strict rule of no reservations. This is because the only way to achieve reservations currently is through clan chat, and, as only 100 or so messages are kept in memory, a reservation will go out of screen and some may fail to see it. Then there is dissent in the clan: "Why did you attack this base, I had reserved it!", "Oh sorry I did not see your reservation!" etc.

There is no way in hell a clan can be organized to such a degree as to maintain an out of game reservation system, except perhaps the most hardcore clans. Actually reservations would be a great idea, if they could be achieved in game, because they would allow a player to build an army customized to a specific base. This would make the game much more interesting and fun.

So, I fully support the implementation of an in game reservation system for war opponents.

I agree, some form of in-game reservation/request system would be very useful. I am trying clashcaller.com for the first time today, but a few clan members have expressed reluctance to go to a third-party app, and several haven't said anything on the subject and have just attacked without reserving. So the initial experiment isn't going very well. But especially at TH9 and above, where different strategies are warranted for different opponents, and builds are long and expensive, a better coordination mechanism than clan chat is needed.

Would be helpful, but I prefer 3rd party systems. You can't physically stop someone from taking the base.

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Originally Posted by KAIRIURDANETACHAMPS

i think leaders can only put reserve attk i mean... leader only has the authority to put reservations, like when rank #22 like to reserve on 10 he will ask leader to put his name on it...

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use the reservation only for the leaders may be a possibility but I think the real utility of being able to reserve an opponent is exploited by members who have a lower level.

it is they who must book an opponent who consider appropriate for their troops to attack and are usually within a clan are "the weak link" and are unlikely leaders.

who is a leader has troops attack stronger and to the benefit of the reservation is only in the organization of the attacks of the clan.

In summary, I think for the leaders to attack an opponent rather than another does "little" difference, while for the lower levels, the benefit is more a necessity than a strategy.

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Originally Posted by KAIRIURDANETACHAMPS

actualy i think internal references will not be good ...

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I thought long and hard about the range and frankly I have not found other intuitive solutions to get a form of general strategy of attack (of the whole clan mean).

in my view, a rule must be given to the whole clan, this rule as you have read in my previous post, can be changed at will under a certain general condition.

We have identified two solutions with reference to the classification of war (numbering according to the "strength").

1) the first to be based on a range of tens (1-10,11-20,21-30,31-40,41-50) where your number can choose an opponent in the ranking of "strength" of the opposing clan .

2) The second according to its growing number of usual ranking of "strength" where you can choose an opponent in a range of 5 units, above and below your number (eg. You are the number 24, you can choose between an opponent 19 and 29)

on the basis of these two rules, the reference ranges may change the units on the basis of an option in the game. So for example, the clan can choose whether to use option 1 with a range of 5 or 6 or 11 or 12, etc .. since the division probably will not be uniform, the latest numbers in ranking will benefit from a range more wide based on the remaining units that do not complete the range selected in the option of choice. ((eg. 38 clan members, option 1 range selection of 6 units: result 5 groups of 6, and 1 group of 8 (1-6,7-12,13-18,19-24,25-30,31-38)

this result is consistent with a greater benefit for members of weaker clans that will have a wider choice of where to attack.

your attack strategy kairurdanetachamps under which you attack your weakest members with stronger opponents even for a star, is very clever indeed it is probably the only viable solution to defeat clan, with an average level opponents stronger .

These variations in my opinion should not be included in the reservation system of the game, to avoid complications with the conceptual method for reservation.

Variants of this kind should be directed by e-mail or chat predeterminately causing the strongest, the opposing clan, are not booked.

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Originally Posted by TravisB

There are so many better things they could work on than this... Just not a useful idea. Teach your clan some discipline.

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hello travis, not much approve of your answer. It is not a matter of discipline, it is a problem of how to have a tool to proceed with the will to do so.

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Originally Posted by WingChris

Instead of reservation i would prefer that leaders and co leaders can change the recommended target for each player.

And write a comment field on each enemy, if you select him, you see who should attack him and some strategy advices maybe

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probably any variations can improve the service but my fear is going to complicate a simple thing

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

Agreed. But the OP can rejoice that they are indeed going to do it.

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Originally Posted by kdrakakis

I think we deviate from the original subject. The issue here is not whether strong players attack much weaker players, but whether there is (or should be) a way for me to communicate to my clan mates my wish to attack a certain base (whether I should be attacking the base in the first place is, as I said, a separate discussion.)

In my clan we have a strict rule of no reservations. This is because the only way to achieve reservations currently is through clan chat, and, as only 100 or so messages are kept in memory, a reservation will go out of screen and some may fail to see it. Then there is dissent in the clan: "Why did you attack this base, I had reserved it!", "Oh sorry I did not see your reservation!" etc.

There is no way in hell a clan can be organized to such a degree as to maintain an out of game reservation system, except perhaps the most hardcore clans. Actually reservations would be a great idea, if they could be achieved in game, because they would allow a player to build an army customized to a specific base. This would make the game much more interesting and fun.

So, I fully support the implementation of an in game reservation system for war opponents.

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sorry if i quote the whole message but I consider it centered in the subject of 3D.

the benefits range from the organization, at the time of an attack strategy, to create an army dedicated according to the reservation made, etc..

The current tools of the game do not allow professional management of the clan. We tried to chat but deletes, with the e-mail but they are only 10, with a group of whatsup and with third-party systems but with poor results. Too many management problems. To do a proper job this feature should be implemented in the game!

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Originally Posted by EricS568

I agree, some form of in-game reservation/request system would be very useful. I am trying clashcaller.com for the first time today, but a few clan members have expressed reluctance to go to a third-party app, and several haven't said anything on the subject and have just attacked without reserving.

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are the same problems that I encountered even I, the main reason is the problem of "exit" from the game and access to a third party service.

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Originally Posted by UnknownShadows

Would be helpful, but I prefer 3rd party systems. You can't physically stop someone from taking the base.

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No, from my experience, do not recommend to use third-party applications.


If a reservation system within the game will have its development, the opponent that book can not be attacked for a specific period of time that you can choose (eg. Within the first 12 hours of the start of the battle)

any other comments? :-)

This is a small, minor feature, but VERY useful :thumbsup:

I agree it would be useful but I would suggest a call system instead of reservation (so people know you plan to attack it but it doesn't actually stop them attacking).

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Originally Posted by webbie

.. I would suggest a call system instead of reservation (so people know you plan to attack it but it doesn't actually stop them attacking).

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webbie hello and thanks for the comment.


to reflection approve of your notes, I think is sensible and I share your opinion.


To simplify we divide the two options:


a) RESERVATION


This system allows you to not attack the villages booked within a specified period of hours, with the possibility to change this time (eg. within the first 12 hours after the start of the war). These opponents villages can not be attacked by other members of the clan with all the pros and cons that come with it.


b) CALL


This system allows you to book the village without constraints keep "busy / locked" by the other members of the clan. nevertheless, allows you to have an internal organization to the strategy of attack of the entire clan. In summary, if a clan wants to use the service, has a tool that allows the planning of the attacks and can follow the internal rules that are shared by members of the clan. Since you "see" the reservations of the other members, any misbehavior can be judged and punished by the leader and co-leaders.

I approve of your idea and I think that the option CALL (b) suggest that it is the easiest to implement to avoid complications.


stay tuned .-)

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Originally Posted by Kowalski711

This is a small, minor feature, but VERY useful :thumbsup:

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thanks kowalski, Also I think it's very useful and improve the harmony and integration of people in each clan. It 's definitely a reason to interact with all members together, in addition to the benefits of organization, planning strategy and professionalism.

Organised clans won't be as organised as they were because there is a easy method, people spend time planning outside in war, maybe attackin mirror +5 -5
However this would help lower clans a lot and organize them faster,
It has its good points though

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Originally Posted by Renclasher

Organised clans won't be as organised as they were because there is a easy method, people spend time planning outside in war, maybe attackin mirror +5 -5

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Ren Hello, thank you for the contribution, I can tell you our experience and the problems that we encountered.


believe me, we tried to coordinate the best out of the war but every time we struggled with technical problems rather than problems will.


The members of the clan never connect simultaneously, and this leads to have a tool that allows the whole clan to verify the choice of others.


We tried with range to tens (1/10 - 11/20 - 21/30 - 31/40 - 41/50) and in a window as you wrote yourself to 5 above and 5 below.


The methods used were:


- Chat. but the limitation to 100 messages keeps a historical selections.


- E-mail. but the limitation to 10 email does not allow to maintain a historical selections.


-clashcaller. but members find complaints to exit the game and access to the third external application.


- Whatup. but not all members use it and remains a difficulty "reading" intuitive opponents booked and available.


- During the period of preparation for war. write number opponent in the space of text related to the request of the troops when the classical form. But even in this case, the "reading" is not intuitive and need a control laborious to check opponents booked.

at the present time we gave up and attach the corresponding number in the standings to avoid complications. But frankly, it leaves too much room for luck. Such a solution can only be tackled by clans that have troops adapt for all the members and do not need to select an opponent because they have the ability to attack anyone.


We are not yet at this level and to get good results and stimulate more clan, each member would be appropriate to be able to choose their opponent based on the consideration that he is free to decide. Only he is able to know himself and how it can get the best results with the troops at his disposal and his method of attack.


The only way to make this choice is to book a village opponent and have time to prepare the troops dedicated to the study and attack strategy.


It is not a matter of organizing before the war. is a problem of how to technically implement the will of a clan who want to book their opponents in war, in a simple and intuitive way.

Could be abused; i.e lowest member could reserve #1

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Originally Posted by Osirus

Could be abused; i.e lowest member could reserve #1

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Once the tool has been implemented, you can have internal rules to the clan that let you decide the method by which a reservation can be made.


if you read my post above, in our case, we can choose to dozens of groups based on the automatic numbering of the game in the standings during the war. This is done according to the "strength" of the resort so we always take as a reference.


Or any member can choose an opponent who has numbered in ranking in the top 5 or 5 below (eg the number 17 can choose an opponent who goes 12-22)

If these internal rules are broken you can see who attacked a number to him mismatch and will be the leader and co-leader to take action on (degradation, expulsion, prohibition of war)

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Originally Posted by Osirus

Could be abused; i.e lowest member could reserve #1

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I think they are talking about a tool for communication, not enforcement. It would be advisory, and would give a warning ig attacking abase someone else has said they want, but would not prevent the attack.

And then clan management can assign targets before a war according to what is best and also taking input from guys.

After that if a guy suddenly is not showing up you want to be free to have someone else get that target. (and you can deal with the no show later). And guys that start just ignoring it and hitting other guys targets are also for clan management to deal with, not an enforcement tool.

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

I think they are talking about a tool for communication, not enforcement. It would be advisory, and would give a warning ig attacking abase someone else has said they want, but would not prevent the attack.

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hello rwelshjr, exactly as you describe, I think is the easiest solution to baste.


I really like the expression you used "tool for communication", makes the very idea of ​​what it takes.


My original idea was more complex and certainly this service can be completed in a second phase. The first step in my opinion is as you suggest too: something very simple!


Just two things essentially:


- Allow users to book "CALL", option b Post # 26


- A warning before attacking an opponent booked ("called") by someone else (for example, similar to the message that alerts you when attacks in war if the opponent you have chosen has already been attacked by someone else and to which were already taken at least one star)


I would avoid inserting another at this time, then if the service is implemented, there will surely be time to add additional tools or improvements in a second phase of upgrade if necessary.

:-)

an additional food for thought can be considered to whom to address this service.


considered the new program on the level of the clan and given the fact that this service is related only as regards the war, perhaps it can be evaluated the inclusion of the reservation ("CALL") in an intermediate level of the clan.


an advantage enjoyed by the clan of a certain level.


An example would be the level 6 clan. what do you think?

other impressions on the subject of reservations opponent in war? do not be shy, come on .. :-)

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Originally Posted by alextolomei

other impressions on the subject of reservations opponent in war? do not be shy, come on .. :-)

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Stop self bumping. Just stop. You are spamming the forum. if others are not commenting then they find it not interesting. Sticking it in their faces again anyhow is not respecting the other forum members.

I have supported your idea, I was one of the (apparently very) few that did find it interesting. So I hope it does happen. But I still ask that you stop the self bumping as that is always wrong to do. It bad for the forum.

One suggestion I give for you to do instead - Just chill and wait for it. Some of the info I posted earlier in this thread shows you that SC has already decided to add something like this and they are working on it. So you can stop all the bad behavior, its not even necessary. And instead just wait for it to come to you.

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

Stop self bumping. Just stop. You are spamming the forum. if others are not commenting then they find it not interesting. Sticking it in their faces again anyhow is not respecting the other forum members..

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rwelshjr, honestly, I regretted. I do not wish to dirty the forum. I'm not very practical forum in general and understand your comments.


My good faith thought to maintain "active" this 3D weekly, in order to allow those who do not know it to add their comments.


I repeat that it is not my intention to make "self bumping," I'm just trying to get more people involved in the argument.


Rightly, as you point out, probably not interested in the topic and mine is just an attempt to convince forced on something that I consider of high utility. But perhaps, I may be wrong.


I'm sorry if I offended the forum. I do not be speaking anymore.

all the best

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Originally Posted by alextolomei

As the title, I propose a booking service inside the game to allow for a more professional management of the war strategy in the clan.

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After a lot of clan wars i've come to a similar thought. Would be great to develop such functionality for clan management in a war. This would avoid misunderstanding and better to plan the waging war. I assume that those permissions of the booking(approving) attack must have only a leader and Co.
My vote :thumbsup:. :)

I dont like it :thumbsdown:

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Originally Posted by Jimothon

I dont like it :thumbsdown:

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hello, I would like to ask you why you do not like this idea?

thx

any other comment on this 3D? come on.. improve together the chance of implement :-)

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