leave during war, you are still a part of that war

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

I didn't realize you were suggesting that too.

You are penalizing then everyone that moves around for reasons other than to ditch a clan during war.

Your ideas are not well thought out I sadly have to say. I see you here arguing with everyone instead of getting that. I urge you to get that. Maybe you should step back and learn the game and culture better before pushing any more of this. You may feel you understand it but your responses give away that you don't. They are only showing you to be a guy that thinks he knows everything because he has no idea how much he doesn't know.

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wow seriously you have resorted to name calling?

ok ima clear a few things up here

1. it's not well thought out?

A no it's not well thought out, it was a whimsical idea, i have them from time to time and i have to let the world know, thats why its on a forum, to be discussed i can take negative critisism but not negativity which is all im getting, you offer no arguments or help towards the idea, you offer no alternatives you simply say "rubbish" this is whats known as being a troll, if you dont like it you dont have to say anything, if you can think of a better way of putting it you can say that, if the idea is not possible you can say that, but none of you give me any reason why it cant be done, only that you dont want it too be done?

its a forum im not in charge of supercell, its just about talking about ideas of which this is one, you have said you dont like it, fine that should be the end of it, if you have any information to add those as to why it couldn't be implemented i would like to hear it, and i will give you my reply as to why it can work. but name calling is just childish.

2, learn the game culture?

A not sure what this means, ive been playing this game longer than i can remember, maybe 2011 onwards?, i have ipad iphone samsung galaxy, i play this game every day, i have recently started to come on the forums as i wanted to try them out, but what culture are you speaking about, i am speaking from my many years of experience playing the game.

3. They are only showing you to be a guy that thinks he knows everything because he has no idea how much he doesn't know?

A i have never said i know everything, nor would i, you come across as though you are saying "you dont agree with me so you are wrong" which is what you are accusing me of, which is silly cos i am just trying to get feedback on an idea that i have recently had to make the game more enjoyable, i never said i knew everything and for you to assume otherwise says alot more about you than it does me

all i have asked for is a proper reason why my idea would not work, all you have come back with are things that are already in game as issues and have nothing to do with my idea, in fact my idea would combat most of them anyway.

if you dont like it dont comment, but then again you are trolls so this is what you live for :)

from this point on i will discuss serious posts about my idea only

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wow seriously you have resorted to name calling?

ok ima clear a few things up here

1. it's not well thought out?

A no it's not well thought out, it was a whimsical idea, i have them from time to time and i have to let the world know, thats why its on a forum, to be discussed i can take negative critisism but not negativity which is all im getting, you offer no arguments or help towards the idea, you offer no alternatives you simply say "rubbish" this is whats known as being a troll, if you dont like it you dont have to say anything, if you can think of a better way of putting it you can say that, if the idea is not possible you can say that, but none of you give me any reason why it cant be done, only that you dont want it too be done?

its a forum im not in charge of supercell, its just about talking about ideas of which this is one, you have said you dont like it, fine that should be the end of it, if you have any information to add those as to why it couldn't be implemented i would like to hear it, and i will give you my reply as to why it can work. but name calling is just childish.

2, learn the game culture?

A not sure what this means, ive been playing this game longer than i can remember, maybe 2011 onwards?, i have ipad iphone samsung galaxy, i play this game every day, i have recently started to come on the forums as i wanted to try them out, but what culture are you speaking about, i am speaking from my many years of experience playing the game.

3. They are only showing you to be a guy that thinks he knows everything because he has no idea how much he doesn't know?

A i have never said i know everything, nor would i, you come across as though you are saying "you dont agree with me so you are wrong" which is what you are accusing me of, which is silly cos i am just trying to get feedback on an idea that i have recently had to make the game more enjoyable, i never said i knew everything and for you to assume otherwise says alot more about you than it does me

all i have asked for is a proper reason why my idea would not work, all you have come back with are things that are already in game as issues and have nothing to do with my idea, in fact my idea would combat most of them anyway.

if you dont like it dont comment, but then again you are trolls so this is what you live for :)

from this point on i will discuss serious posts about my idea only

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Actually you yourself were called no names. Your ideas were called 'not well thought out' (its pretty much all others that have been saying 'awful', 'rubbish, and I think I saw 'garbage' too.) but its an accurate statement so you will have to live with that. I will admit I did point out that you are very short on knowledge, but that is something you yourself have been proving, not me. You even went on a long rant after that about how much of what I say you don't understand. Maybe you should walk away until the day you understand it.

You are not even aware of what your own self is saying. At one point you call it a just whimsical idea, then you say you will only accept serious discussion of it? Pretty much everything that has come from you is off any sort of mark.

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You are not even aware of what your own self is saying. At one point you call it a just whimsical idea, then you say you will only accept serious discussion of it? Pretty much everything that has come from you is off any sort of mark.

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this doesn't seem like you are talking about the post, therefore i have decided to ignore it, but i welcome any intelligent discussion regarding the original post, even negative criticism should it actually be about the original post.

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this doesn't seem like you are talking about the post, therefore i have decided to ignore it, but i welcome any intelligent discussion regarding the original post, even negative criticism should it actually be about the original post.

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Yes, I am talking about the post. It can't be discussed intelligently on your terms. You have had lots of intelligent discussion why it is wrong and the problems it would cause. But you actually aren't interested in intelligent conversation if it disagrees with you. What you are saying is you want only feedback that agrees with you. But that would not be intelligent so we have a catch 22.

So far this thread has been nothing but you arguing with the all other comers. I think the thread is unanimous that your idea is not something that should ever be pursued. If you can't get that then fine. If you want us to stop telling you what's wrong with your idea we can do that and it can just roll off the feed.

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Yes, I am talking about the post. It can't be discussed intelligently on your terms. You have had lots of intelligent discussion why it is wrong and the problems it would cause. But you actually aren't interested in intelligent conversation if it disagrees with you. What you are saying is you want only feedback that agrees with you. But that would not be intelligent so we have a catch 22.

So far this thread has been nothing but you arguing with the all other comers. I think the thread is unanimous that your idea is not something that should ever be pursued. If you can't get that then fine. If you want us to stop telling you what's wrong with your idea we can do that and it can just roll off the feed.

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no i have been given many reasons that do not involve my idea, everything that has been said is already in the game and my idea combats them all, i am arguing because this is no longer about the idea and more about you attacking me,

people leave clans, people get kicked out of clans, sometimes it is during a war, all the idea was is that you do not have to be in a clan to view the warmap and use your attacks, it saves time trying to track down a player to make his attacks, it stops clans from banishing players from war on a whim. you have taken this as a personal vendetta because it is my post, and obviously i'm not going to back down, you could ignore this post and it would go away, but you wont because thats not what a troll does is it,

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no i have been given many reasons that do not involve my idea, everything that has been said is already in the game and my idea combats them all, i am arguing because this is no longer about the idea and more about you attacking me,

people leave clans, people get kicked out of clans, sometimes it is during a war, all the idea was is that you do not have to be in a clan to view the warmap and use your attacks, it saves time trying to track down a player to make his attacks, it stops clans from banishing players from war on a whim. you have taken this as a personal vendetta because it is my post, and obviously i'm not going to back down, you could ignore this post and it would go away, but you wont because thats not what a troll does is it,

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Ah, now we do get our first instance of name calling. Well done sir.

So if this is your idea then it makes my point for me.....

"people leave clans, people get kicked out of clans, sometimes it is during a war, all the idea was is that you do not have to be in a clan to view the war map and use your attacks, it saves time trying to track down a player to make his attacks, it stops clans from banishing players from war on a whim."

I actually had not called that specific suggestions 'poorly thought out' before but I will say it now so its official for you to whine about.

Its not a personal vendetta to call this a poorly though out idea. Just like its not a personal vendetta against the sky to call it blue. And you are not stating accurately that guys have not given you intelligent arguments that spoke to what is wrong with it. and I see you know that because you replied to their arguments. (replied with nonsense, but replied)

What's interesting is that it was other guys calling your ideas 'awful", "garbage" rubbish", and stuff like that. I simply disagreed without much comment. I think you might have been too busy writing arguments to everyone to read.

Now, you also mentioned at one point a different idea of having guys locked out of clans until the war ends (I bolded it for you in my earlier quote.) That was the one I called you out on said it was 'not well thought out' and that's the comment you got all excited about. I also in that post gave you the intelligent argument what was wrong with that idea and I was spot on. And you had to face you had not thought that through what you were really suggesting I think. That's why you had to instead resort to crying about feed back that disagreed with you calling it a 'personal vendetta against you'. It was a misdirection because you had no answer to my (nor anyone else's) counters to your ideas.

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Now, you also mentioned at one point a different idea of having guys locked out of clans until the war ends (I bolded it for you in my earlier quote.) That was the one I called you out on said it was 'not well thought out' and that's the comment you got all excited about. I also in that post gave you the intelligent argument what was wrong with that idea and I was spot on. And you had to face you had not thought that through what you were really suggesting I think. That's why you had to instead resort to crying about feed back that disagreed with you calling it a 'personal vendetta against you'. It was a misdirection because you had no answer to my (nor anyone else's) counters to your ideas.

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what were those counters again then?, if i missed them i will address it right now although i dont remember a single one having anything to do with my idea of people being able to complete war attacks outside of the clan they are warring with.

You post ideas wayy too often

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Originally Posted by Json8r

You post ideas wayy too often

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i only have 200 posts

4 pages in, and still no one can see any merit in this ludicrous idea. It appears that no one wants it, and no one needs it.

Plainly everyone else thinks that if someone leaves a clan during war, then they have left, and take no further part... Quite obviously how it should be......