"Multiple Mythologies" For Play - CoC 2.0!

So, after reading numerous posts requesting new troops and buildings, which range in style and real-world mythology form around the world... I started getting the idea that what people want is more variety. Far and away the two most common requests seem to be Clan War, and a variety of troops and defense types.

My thoughts went to the original Starcraft, with well-balanced playable "races," each with a unique mix of troops and buildings. So: What if CoC had different "races" as paths of development? Each with a different balance/specialty?! (Maybe call them "mythologies" or something else less loaded.)

Realistically, the more troops added to the game as it exists, the more complex it will get. The end result is that there will either be a gazillion different troops, watering the whole thing down, or new troop additions will be so disruptive to the game balance it could make the whole game fail. So adding more troops to the existing game is perhaps the wrong direction to go. Perhaps more troops can be added a different way...

So what if, like Starcraft, players could start their village and choose a path? This path would affect everything from the types of troops to spells and to defenses. How? you ask?

By electing a "Mayor" to govern your Town Hall! Once your village reaches the level where the basic 4 "races" of troops are unlocked, players could select a "Mayor" in the TH that defines what "mythology" their village follows.

So, what "races or mythologies"? you ask? The game has already got a mixed, multicultural society that includes barbarians, goblins, giants, skeletons, and dragons -- a really mixed mythology. And of course there's already the goblin villages. Instead of trying to come up with whole new mythologies, it would be easiest to just create specialty villages based on (and extended from) what already exist. There could be a development mode for each race/mythology/type, but with some (i.e. the Wizard, Healer) being a universal class type, and unique Heroes.

For example (and remember, just examples for the purpose of illustrating the idea!):

The Multicultural Mix: the existing setup.
- Same as currently exists, represents a good balance between high number versus high damage and a range of HP.
- Defenses are balanced, with variety of types of damage and air vs. ground.


The Vikings: source troop, the Barbarian/Archer/Giants.
- experts in brute force
- Generally low troop cost and housing space, medium/average production times
- Average HP, Average Damage, Average Speed, High Numbers

• Most troops are ground-based (fewer aerial troops, but aerial troops are stronger to offset imbalance)

- Defenses: much like current, good mix, but one less mortar and one extra canon.
- Wizard-class: (The Seer) deals fire-damage, purely offensive
- Other specialty units:

• The Battering Ram (wall breaker unit - weaker damage than bombs, higher HP and survives after destroying a wall, moving on to the next wall, moves somewhat slowly)
• Mountain Giant: damage soak, and ranged attacks by throwing barbarians into villages (can be shot down, aerial unit)

The Goblins: source troop, the Goblin.
- experts in stealth and speed
- Low and medium troop cost/housing space, either fast or slow (not medium) production times.
- Low HP, Low Damage but Specialty Damage multipliers, High Speed, High Numbers

• All troops are highly specialized, gaining multipliers against target, but otherwise weak

- Defenses: extra traps, extra walls, but one fewer canon and archer tower
- Wizard-class (Shaman) deals acid damage (low initial damage, but acid damages is cumulative over time, and persists for 3 or 4 seconds after unit is destroyed)
- Other specialty units:

• The Goblin Catapault (fires goblins into the base over walls! fires 5 to 10 troops at a time, but somewhat inaccurate!)
• Goblin Balloons: individual goblins strapped to small individual ballons, take 2 housing space, are cheap to make but quickly shot down (damage soak unit/distractor)

The Undead: source troop, the Wallbreaker/Balloon.
- experts in explosives and regeneration
- Generally medium to high troop cost, highly variable housing space, medium to slow production times
- Low HP (but regenerate), Variable Damage, Variable Speeds, Variable Numbers

• Weak troops, but take HP from what they damage, extending their life (therefore weakest at range, deadliest close up)

- Defenses: favours splash damage types, Lich Tower reanimates attacking troops after death as Zombies
- Wizard-class (Lich) deals lower damage with ice-based spell, but reanimates opponents Clan Castle troops after death
- Other specialty units:

• Zombies: very low production cost, .5 housing space, deal very little damage, have very little HP. Instantly destroyed by fire and archers.
• Vampire: flying unit until it lands to attack, fast movement

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Other ideas:

The Forest's Revenge: a village made up animal troops, pixies and nymphs, druids, and natural buildings (Treant's as defensive towers?)

The Desert: a desert villages with scorpion riders, sand worms (burrowing troop!), and pyramids...

etc...


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Anyway, this is just a fledgling idea, but could be a way to introduce whole new collections of troops to be developed without over-complicating the existing game.

the idea is not bad but it has some flaws to it for example, the idea has to be made copyright and this is acually asking for too much as it will be hard for them to make it with a game already play by millions but it would be best if this idea were to be put into a new game which you could suggest to supercell

By that logic this game is already breaking copyright because it's a lot like Warcraft I & II.

The game mechanic isn't something you can copyright. There are other games very similar to Starcraft, too, and they're fine.

I like the way there will be a more diverse base to attack not just because of the layout.

Check this thread, it also has some specialization ideas
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...0106-Clan-Gods

I love this idea! A "Choose your path" method would be very effective. I was thinking it would cost gems to change class or whatever you call it. Best one of these ideas ever! May i suggest that you add that each group has a nemesis/opposite? (more effective or less effective etc.) Also, their nemesis is the replacement of the goblin campaign.

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By that logic this game is already breaking copyright because it's a lot like Warcraft I & II.

The game mechanic isn't something you can copyright. There are other games very similar to Starcraft, too, and they're fine.

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ok but that doesn't change the fact that it will be hard to put on as there are already tons of people who play coc and this idea requires the whole thing to almost completely change.

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ok but that doesn't change the fact that it will be hard to put on as there are already tons of people who play coc and this idea requires the whole thing to almost completely change.

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Well......... people have to adjust anyway and it doesn't change as if they are removing all barracks and that, it is still keeping the original idea.

they could implement an idea like this after level 10

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I love this idea! A "Choose your path" method would be very effective. I was thinking it would cost gems to change class or whatever you call it. Best one of these ideas ever! May i suggest that you add that each group has a nemesis/opposite? (more effective or less effective etc.) Also, their nemesis is the replacement of the goblin campaign.

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Personally, I don't think it needs to cost gems to "elect a mayor"/change class/race/mythology. But, I can see that attaching a small gem cost might be a good idea. To explain...

Part of an idea like this is adding an element of play to extend the game, so high level players don't just sit there at the top with nothing left to do, and so new players can explore different paths. The things is, gems can pose the same advantage as they do currently.

Basically, let's say a player hits level 50 in the regular game as we know it, then decide they want to develop a Goblin village. They tap the Town Hall, elect the Goblin mayor, and reload the game into their brand new Level 0 Goblin village. So they set some things to upgrade and start developing their village. The village will develop only if the "mayor" remains in power -- in otherwords, you can't jump from class to class to get them all developing simultaneously. You have to do them linearly.

Gems are really just a shortcut. You get impatient, so you spend money. The same will hold true if development from mythology/class to mythology/class remains linear. So the financial benefit to Supercell remains the same, and in fact effectively adds 3 times the number of opportunities to use gems (if it was just this model exactly, with a Viking, Goblin, and Undead class added -- though more are of course possible).

So, that's why I don't think gems to elect a mayor are required.

If it went this way, the other thing would be that trophy count would be unique to each class. So you might be a level 50 Multicultural Mix (the current regular game) with 1560 trophies, and Level 12 Goblin with 403 trophies, and Level 0 of the other classes. They'd have to do this to ensure fair competition between villages. All things considered, that's relatively easy to keep track of. Then, if there was a player ranking that included you level and trophies in each class, there'd be a broader dimension to it.

Plus, clans could have mixed village types, which adds a tactical element to clan leadership. (I have another idea for Clan Warfare that I'm working on and will post sometime in the near future ;) )

I like the idea of a nemesis. :) Rock paper scissors built into the game!

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ok but that doesn't change the fact that it will be hard to put on as there are already tons of people who play coc and this idea requires the whole thing to almost completely change.

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I included the existing game as the default way to play, so it stays there. I don't think it changes completely. This is just to add something else to do, expanding the game, adding interest and options for new and old players, and adding lots of elements of strategy.

Plus, with all the other changes that keep being made (like Dark Elixir, new troops for DE and for regular ol' E, extra defenses), the game changes anyway. BUT, it only changes for the highest level players. If they add new troops, I think it would add interest if they weren't just adding high level troops, but also low level troops, so there can be alternatives to the barbarian, archer, and WB, to expand the way we play, rather than only making the game a grind to get to the highest level, which is just expanded forever further and further out of reach of new players.

Keeping the game development to the end fairly short makes a game more interesting to new players. The further out of reach it gets, the more impossible it seems. Also, there's the entrenched top Clans, which will basically never go away, because they are made up of the longest-playing players. Fair enough on the one hand, but disheartening to newer players on the other because it's basically impossible for someone new to ever be top ranked.

Instead of expanding the game linearly by adding higher levels and not changing it at lower levels at all, which will only cause the game to stagnate, I think it would be wiser to go lateral and broaden the ways to play within the existing game mechanic. I'm proposing we play the exact same way, but with options based on alternative balances within the mechanic.

I think adding this to the game would make it more complex and unneeded i think the game is best the way it is and YES

People do want clan wars and more troops to make it interesting which I agree on but this idea although good will make the game more complex rather than interesting so
maybe people are right when they say clan wars or new troops but also considering the people who have already started the game wat then they would have to restart he game going by this idea which people like Jorge Yao won't be happy about


anyway nice ispdea but not needed