When Players Leave The Clan During War

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March 5th, 2015
SonnySupreme

When Players Leave The Clan During War

There should either be an option available to the leader to replace someone who leaves the clan during war prep/war. Or, Lock players into war & do not allow them to leave Clan while Clan is at war or in war prep.
March 5th, 2015
ShaneHed13

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Originally Posted by SonnySupreme

There should either be an option available to the leader to replace someone who leaves the clan during war prep/war. Or, Lock players into war & do not allow them to leave Clan while Clan is at war or in war prep.

Can't lock people into not leaving during a war, some clans war back to back to back and a person would have no opportunity to leave.
March 5th, 2015
SonnySupreme

Not lock them into the clan. Lock them into the war until it's over. You're not war eligible until the war that you're in is over anyway. This way you just can't leave a clan stuck with an empty spot. Eliminates hopping.
March 5th, 2015
YBAHero

Other Options

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Originally Posted by ShaneHed13

Can't lock people into not leaving during a war, some clans war back to back to back and a person would have no opportunity to leave.

I actually like this with the opt-out options. And during war you could always ask the leader to leave you out the next war.
March 5th, 2015
YBAHero

Also...

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Originally Posted by YBAHero

I actually like this with the opt-out options. And during war you could always ask the leader to leave you out the next war.

Then again, you can't make a person attack, so keeping them there might not do anything for the clan anyways.
March 6th, 2015
rwelshjr

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Originally Posted by YBAHero

Then again, you can't make a person attack, so keeping them there might not do anything for the clan anyways.

They wont "not do anything", in fact they are likely to do pleanty. Since they cant leave they will try to get kicked instead. So they will troll the heck out of your clan and do all they can to be a problem and mess up the war effort until the leader kicks them. They are alreaduy a jerk, you can't change that. You are better off if they simply left.

At least for the rest of your war they can't do another war and a lot of clans will reject them for having that timer so its harder for them to join another clan that's worth joining. But other than that you can't add any other restrictions without hurting innocent people too so it has to just stay the way it is.

Leaders have to use the tools they have been given to screen guys before including them into a war. Or they can skip it as long as they are ok riding out the circumstances. (some are)
March 6th, 2015
SonnySupreme

There should either be an option available to the leader to replace someone who leave

I think you guys are just fixated on the part of locking in. There should be a way to replace a clan member if they leave during the war. I don't think that would be that hard to do?
March 6th, 2015
SpiritEcho

Replace option

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Originally Posted by SonnySupreme

I think you guys are just fixated on the part of locking in. There should be a way to replace a clan member if they leave during the war. I don't think that would be that hard to do?

I completely agree with you. We just had two Gold take out a bunch of people and leave, all while preparing for WAR. It is really crappy of people to screw the clans' chance to win in the war. It's just not right. :(
March 6th, 2015
ShaneHed13

Why do you have brand new people participating in wars with you anyways. Just start the first one without them and if they don't ♥♥♥♥♥/bail, then they'll probably be alright. And sure, they can "ask" to leave after the war is over, but my guess, is if clans are starting wars with terrible noobs they haven't properly screened, it is my guess that they NEED that person in the war to get the number of people they want (the 10th or 15th person in the clan) which is more incentive to not boot the person and lock them in the clan so you can continue doing wars.

I'm completely indifferent about "replacing" someone in a clan who leaves during prep day, but that is not a problem a well run clan ever has so there's probably a 100 other things you can do besides this to fix the situation.
March 6th, 2015
iceageg

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Originally Posted by SonnySupreme

I think you guys are just fixated on the part of locking in. There should be a way to replace a clan member if they leave during the war. I don't think that would be that hard to do?

This won't be possible because of how war matchups are made in the first place. Unless you have an identically upgraded village with identical troops you would change the matchup. Clans would exploit this to the extreme by intentionally replacing weak bases with their clan's top players. That is why nobody is acknowledging the "replace the person" part of your suggestion.

As far as forcing people to stay . . . I will expand on rwelshjr's words

Welcome to the forum. In the future please use the search function and contribute to an identical existing thread instead of starting a new identical thread. Your request gets posted a lot. Incentivizing staying could work except most people who hop between clans are doing so for GOOD reasons. You would be discouraging visiting friends and helping feeder/alliance clans. Self-quoting from one of the previous ones . . .

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Originally Posted by iceageg

You need to remember who you are complaining about here. Either the player leaving is leaving because you have a poor clan and/or poor leadership, or they are leaving because they have questionable moral integrity. For the sake of argument lets assume you are a wise and effective leader, so this must be one of those d-bags that hangs you out to dry. If you get your way and players are forced to stay or penalized for leaving . . . <fade to foreshadowed scene>

1) D-bag joins
2) You start war
3) D-bag wants to leave but can't (SUCCESS!!! He is stuck with you now!!!)
4) D-bag is a d-bag and wants out, so he decides to get kicked out
5) So he fills war castles with goblins and wallbreakers
6) And fills donations with goblins and wall breakers
7) And turns your clan chat into something that makes global look like bible study
8) And defames your clan on global
9) Then wastes both attacks in the war anyway
9a) Set their base up so it is super easy to 3*
10) And continues to fill war requests with ♥♥♥♥ troops
11) Maybe even comes to the forums to badmouth you and your clan
12) You kick them out
or
12) Your other clan members leave because you won't kick out the D-bag

Remember, this is already a person who doesn't care if they hurt your clan. Long story short, you are requesting a way to force people who don't want to be in your clan, who you don't even want in your clan, to be stuck in your clan. NOTHING good can come of this. Bad idea every time it is suggested.

Also, in an effort to not only help the OP understand the horrible repercussions of their idea, here is a list of many of the most common things successful clans do to prevent "D-bag hoppers" from being a nuisance. Quoting myself from a recent thread again . . .

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Originally Posted by iceageg

Most people who switch between clans do it for very good, fruitful reasons. Since the game can't tell these players from your much maligned "hoppers" the majority of us would end up penalized because a few players don't want in your clan didn't want to be in your clan. The truly nefarious hoppers are usually very easy to spot and deal with. Players who are genuinely searching for a clan are simply part of the game, just like people searching for the right job are a part of real life. What you have hear is a clan management problem. One all of us have experienced and learned from. It has been discussed on the forum many times. Here's how most of us have solved this.

1) Set the clan to invite only.
2) Don't give elder to anybody who can't conduct themselves as an adult
3) Don't give Co-leader to anybody you don't trust
4) Make sure both elders and Co's understand that it is ok to accept new members
5) Make sure they understand they are expected to BOOT new members if
5a) They introduce themselves by asking for troops
5b) Introduce themselves with profanity
5c) Introduce themselves with some form of "rate my base!!!!"
5d) Don't respond when welcomed
5e) Ask for elder/Co in the first conversation
5f) Start filling castles with ♥♥♥♥
6) Clan rule that new members don't participate in the first war (Opted out by leader/co)
7) Only recruit 1-2 new players between each war, none during

Others may chime in with additional ideas but those are the basic ones. Follow those and hoppers will end 99% instantly. Not to mention you will crack a smile when you apply your boots to their crack.