War Troop Donations should count!

Members who donate troops are loyal and dedicated. Clan leaders often reward members based on troop donations. Hundreds of or very costly troops are donated for war. These donations should be valued, and therefore counted as donated troops in the clan list. PLEASE!!!

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Originally Posted by Leanneg

Members who donate troops are loyal and dedicated. Clan leaders often reward members based on troop donations. Hundreds of or very costly troops are donated for war. These donations should be valued, and therefore counted as donated troops in the clan list. PLEASE!!!

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I heard an explanation as to why it doesn't count from SuperCell once. And although at first I agreed with you, the explanation they gave for why it doesn't count actually made a decent deal of sense to me. I forget the exact explanation, but something to do with people donating then having them deleted out of the castle.

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Originally Posted by bonesaw13

I heard an explanation as to why it doesn't count from SuperCell once. And although at first I agreed with you, the explanation they gave for why it doesn't count actually made a decent deal of sense to me. I forget the exact explanation, but something to do with people donating then having them deleted out of the castle.

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Thanks for the reply. I guess I would need to read their explanation. I would say that "so what?", the currency(troops) was still paid. I don't donate tons to random troop sucking clan mates, but come wartime, I give u til it really hurts. War troops are given in anonymity....that sucks! I hope Supercell reconsiders.

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Originally Posted by Leanneg

Thanks for the reply. I guess I would need to read their explanation. I would say that "so what?", the currency(troops) was still paid. I don't donate tons to random troop sucking clan mates, but come wartime, I give u til it really hurts. War troops are given in anonymity....that sucks! I hope Supercell reconsiders.

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Yeah I wish I could remember their exact explanation or had the link to the post.. Maybe search the forums? Because I know your not the first person to bring it up.

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Originally Posted by Leanneg

Members who donate troops are loyal and dedicated. Clan leaders often reward members based on troop donations. Hundreds of or very costly troops are donated for war. These donations should be valued, and therefore counted as donated troops in the clan list. PLEASE!!!

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I totally agree with you. It's making some members reluctant to donate troops.

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Originally Posted by bonesaw13

I heard an explanation as to why it doesn't count from SuperCell once. And although at first I agreed with you, the explanation they gave for why it doesn't count actually made a decent deal of sense to me. I forget the exact explanation, but something to do with people donating then having them deleted out of the castle.

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I will definitely look for that explanation. But isn't troops donated to village cc can also be removed.

YES! come war time, I have many times been the guy donating over half of the troops to fill war ccs. Since my clan does back to back wars, have thousands of donates in war. I think i should get xp, Friend in need, and the refund from clan levels. The argument about troops being x'ed out from war castles is invalid.. the same thing can be done in normal ccs. There is no reason for supercell to keep this out of the game.

How about if xp and FiN stats were updated at the end of prep day, just counting the troops that stayed in the castles?

this is ruled out.....because this feature can be exploited easily...........what if one player donates to a war cc...and with the coordination of the other player...he deletes the donated troops...and the first players donates again...and repeats.....so now doest it makes sense? ..

There are already some exploitable XP gain features, but thankfully many of those are very slow, but hard to stop. Adding that in would be an easy and speedy exploit, burning a marginal amount of Elixir for XP, limited only by how fast you can make barbarians, your Elixir storages, and willingness to keep grinding.

If this was added, two conspiring exploiters could grind XP out in a record amount of time, especially if Barracks are boosted (and would be even worse if it was done during the Barbarian and Dragon Event awhile back! http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...t%21%21Boosted Event boosted barbarians, with boosted Barracks? 1 second training!)

I have been wanting this for a long time but i think it might be ruled out

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Originally Posted by ansen123

this is ruled out.....because this feature can be exploited easily...........what if one player donates to a war cc...and with the coordination of the other player...he deletes the donated troops...and the first players donates again...and repeats.....so now doest it makes sense? ..

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How DOES that make sense? Millions of good players lose out because a few will be jerks? Why would someone do that? Kinda lame!

ahh u dont get it.....

let me post another players reply: There are already some exploitable XP gain features, but thankfully many of those are very slow, but hard to stop. Adding that in would be an easy and speedy exploit, burning a marginal amount of Elixir for XP, limited only by how fast you can make barbarians, your Elixir storages, and willingness to keep grinding.

If this was added, two conspiring exploiters could grind XP out in a record amount of time, especially if Barracks are boosted (and would be even worse if it was done during the Barbarian and Dragon Event awhile back!

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Originally Posted by ansen123

ahh u dont get it.....

let me post another players reply: There are already some exploitable XP gain features, but thankfully many of those are very slow, but hard to stop. Adding that in would be an easy and speedy exploit, burning a marginal amount of Elixir for XP, limited only by how fast you can make barbarians, your Elixir storages, and willingness to keep grinding.

If this was added, two conspiring exploiters could grind XP out in a record amount of time, especially if Barracks are boosted (and would be even worse if it was done during the Barbarian and Dragon Event awhile back!

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Anyway, offical word, from Supercell, inside the in-game help function, and in the forum's help function (they are interlinked) http://supercell.helpshift.com/a/cla...s-achievements

Can't get more official than that.

Yes, that way it can be exploited. But the % of exploiters will be very few. Its actually unfair to those who donates in war cc.
Why not delink war cc donations from xp & achievement and at the same time add it to the clans donation counter, which resets at the beginning of a season so there will not be any misuse.
It will give some sort of recognition to donators.

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Originally Posted by WarrenJames

There are already some exploitable XP gain features, but thankfully many of those are very slow, but hard to stop. Adding that in would be an easy and speedy exploit, burning a marginal amount of Elixir for XP, limited only by how fast you can make barbarians, your Elixir storages, and willingness to keep grinding.

If this was added, two conspiring exploiters could grind XP out in a record amount of time, especially if Barracks are boosted (and would be even worse if it was done during the Barbarian and Dragon Event awhile back! http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...t%21%21Boosted Event boosted barbarians, with boosted Barracks? 1 second training!)

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That's a stupid reason to "rule out" something... limit it to X donations per day/clan war. Or keep track of what troops are donated by whom and only reward XP once the preparation day is over ("donation" stats should update on the fly, but conversely, if a troop is removed, the stat should decrease "live" as well; can't do that with XP because if someone is promoted to the next level you don't want to have to go through the process of "demoting" them to their old level if the troop is removed). Having it not count at all is worse for a couple of reasons:

1. As your "donated" numbers don't increase when donating to a war clan castle, it may look like you don't donate to your clan when your co/leaders look at the stats;
2. It discourages people from donating to war clan castle because the stats don't update / there's no recognition;
3. Obviously getting no XP at all is yet another reason to not donate.

Those three kind of tie in with eachother, but you get the point.. if it were me, I'd go a step further in recognizing clan war donators: give them a spot on the main clan war page/screen ("biggest donator" or some such, alongside the best offense/defense raids).

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Originally Posted by darkedgex

That's a stupid reason to "rule out" something... limit it to X donations per day/clan war. Or keep track of what troops are donated by whom and only reward XP once the preparation day is over ("donation" stats should update on the fly, but conversely, if a troop is removed, the stat should decrease "live" as well; can't do that with XP because if someone is promoted to the next level you don't want to have to go through the process of "demoting" them to their old level if the troop is removed). Having it not count at all is worse for a couple of reasons:

1. As your "donated" numbers don't increase when donating to a war clan castle, it may look like you don't donate to your clan when your co/leaders look at the stats;
2. It discourages people from donating to war clan castle because the stats don't update / there's no recognition;
3. Obviously getting no XP at all is yet another reason to not donate.

Those three kind of tie in with eachother, but you get the point.. if it were me, I'd go a step further in recognizing clan war donators: give them a spot on the main clan war page/screen ("biggest donator" or some such, alongside the best offense/defense raids).

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Limit what a person can give per war? Oh yes, that is less "stuipd" an idea. That'd cut off people from being able to do most of the donations, so people with strong units, or the resources would be unable to.

I can agree on keeping track, since it would be good to know who helped and who messed up.

And this XP issue is just... illogical. Levels hardly mean a thing. They don't unlock anything besides decorations, they are poor at showing any kind of base or army strength, they are earned for several things that aren't related; and dispite this fact, people obsess about it because it strokes one's ego, and gives a good emotional feeling of progress and accomplishment, even though it is not used in anything meaningful by the game mechanics.

It should only count if they are not deleted from the clan castle adding to your donation count after war prep is done

Oh....not another one of these threads.....

The reason war donations is because it is very exploitable for both the FiN achievement and XP. XP does make a difference when you start looking for clans.

Also, people need to get it into their thick skulls that WAR IS NOT MEANT FOR PROFIT. Sure, you make a healthy amount of gold and potentially DE, but most successful war clans, EVERY member makes a loss. Clan wars are about offsetting the balance of lots of elixir against a lack of gold. The point is, war CC donations are in the best interests of the clan, and it's up to you whether you're willing to donate for the good of the clan.

If the only reason you won't donate to war cc's is because you don't get XP, well...let's say you won't be in our clan for war. We are a clan of 35, and we organise efficiently so that the cost is spread over as many people as possible. Do they look for credit? No. They just get on with it.

Rant over.

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It's sort of a test of your loyalty. If you don't want to donate just because you won't get points for it, you aren't loyal to your clan. The troops are for defense only, and if you don't want to donate, you may lose the war. It's up to you. Defense, not donations.