or just use the opt in/out feature and war with the people in your clan who do want to war.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveZGE
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or just use the opt in/out feature and war with the people in your clan who do want to war.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveZGE
I'm confused on the advantages of clan perks. Everyone in my clan has max troops, so how do I get two upgrades on troops?
People will start comparing clan level after the update and it won't take long for everyone to get use to the idea. For most it's about pride as well believe me being in a high level clan with fancy badge will appeal to many. Also, established or not, bringing in new quality blood is the key to any clan.Quote:
Originally Posted by James169
Yep you make a good point. This update will separate the truly good clans from all the pedestrian clans. And there are a LOT of mediocre clans out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bianjing
The clan level won't matter if they are a loyal clan to each other, or if it matters they can do what I suggested earlier- war once a week/fortnight until they get whichever perks they wantQuote:
Originally Posted by Bianjing
once a week/fortnight means they don't waste much of their farming time on wars
So what? That still changes nothing for farming clans. Higher level clans will only attract players who want to war. For players who have no interest in war, farming clans will still exist. If a farmer wants to join a high level clan but not contribute anything to the war effort that player will be booted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bianjing
The selfishness in being upset over added features for players who love war is astounding. It doesn't change how you play.
These so-called perks are war related ONLY.
Why the hell do you care about them if you are in a farming clan?
I don't think this update will be the end of farming clan at all, however it does seem to encourage people to stay, and therefore it discourages hopping
or you could just have ten guys go to war while the rest of the clan watches and farms with the new opt in opt out function you can war once a week and just take shifts for the week meaning if you have 40 people you would only war once a month..maybe two if there are 5 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bianjing
I'm so confused, where does it say all this "war only" stuff?
So... the only way to win clan xp will be with clan wars? I don't like that. And Sp didn't say nothing about use heros in clan wars while they're upgrading... how we can win wars in a farming clan without heros? You reward the clans who does wars but we can't do wars everytime if we want to upgrade our heros
The upgraded donations, does that apply to all donations or just donations to war clan castle? That's pretty epic that a lower TH with only lvl2 dragons will end up donating a lvl4 dragon. Same for really any expensive-ish troop (PEKKA, golem, lava hound). I'm assuming all donations though, and that sounds pretty cool.
I realize that SC can't please everyone but there are way too many complaining ppl on this forum. This game is fun and they update it pretty frequently with good stuff too.
This particular update will promote team play within the clan and emphasize clan wars...cw i a feature that we all loudly desired and got. I think this update will be awesome for the game. It will definitely be huge for my clan.
Nice update! More rewards for ♥♥♥♥♥ers. Nice.
It is the end of fair game.
or they'll just opt out so they can simply donate and be in the clan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba061
you gain clan xp by going to war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slamzilla
To clarify, the farming clans are those who don't war at all or start continues war but only do th sniping. Those suggest war weekly or two weekly are suggesting switching to hybrid clans
So you have a choice to make, and you are making a choice to upgrade your heroes. Other people are sacrificing upgrading their heroes by instead clan warring. Others are going into wars without heroes. It's your choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamero87
that was the point of my post if farming clans want perks then go to war...IMO this update is just to increase how many people go to war and could help with the matchmaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bianjing
Really dude? What do you thinks gonna happen? Lol maybe you can start letting some less experienced members in and it will help you feel like it's working... You can always make them opt out of war now and let them grow and donate.Quote:
Originally Posted by looktrick1979
And a competitive war clan will waste a roster spot on someone who sits out every war? A farmer who has no interest in war won't sit out and make expensive troops for war donations.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrispeterson
They'd be a sponge looking to reap benefits for themselves and would be booted for a player who would contribute to clan growth.
Hence the end of PURE farming clanQuote:
Originally Posted by chrispeterson
Yoh Ryan,Quote:
Originally Posted by always52078
Someone kicked me off iQuit last time I joined lol.
Not every war clan has that full 50 spots some war clans are small war clans that don't like big wars. If someone has a guy that they want in that small war clan that wants to just farm donate and chat with friends then there is no problem with opting out he's not reaping any benefits except gaining donations and any GOOD clan would just kick him if he doesn't donate to their standards. and all farmers are not like that there are players that will just donate and farm you can't assume that ALL farmers will do what you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba061
[QUOTE='Anoushka[Supercell];3919956']Hi there,
Time to start these sneak peeks rollin' eh?
#1 Introducing the Cannon level 13! It packs a punch and takes a lot of damage!
http://i.imgur.com/Crlbfwf.jpg
Forum exclusive: Healers no longer trigger air traps - just keep clear of Air Defense!
#2 Make your clan stand out!! Craft a clan badge with your choice of pattern, background and border!
http://i.imgur.com/NbhIZyb.png
Forum exclusive: Clan Castle troop deployment is no longer prevented by tapping on obstacles or decorations.
#3 Soon your clan has full control of Clan Wars!
http://i.imgur.com/L2Bj8ib.png
Forum exclusive: See a preview image of any player's Village from their profile, without having to visit.
#4 Clans are leveling up! Level up your clan and earn perks, prestige and fancy badges! Introducing Clan Perks!
http://i.imgur.com/NEkcKQz.png
Forum exclusive:see complete list of perks here --> http://supr.cl/ClanPerks
:D[Anyone know when the update is?]
[QUOTE=Tucker1413;3949381]this is what I think cus it usually works like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Anoushka[Supercell]
no there won't be an end to PURE farming clans some might not care about the perks period since they only have a real use when going to war. with that being the case since you don't want to go to war the perks won't have any real benefit except you can donate more and your troop levels would be increased when you donate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bianjing
Yes dude really.Quote:
Originally Posted by FueledChaos
Still holding on to the hope of being able to use heroes that are upgrading - at least during clan wars. At 7 days each level means I may have to use that opt out feature:) I know I know- attack down , but just saying.
You're absolutely correct. However I'm responding to the fact that farming clans will lose out on recruitment to war clans. War clans will only want to recruit players interested in war. If a players sole interest is farming, clans still exist for that. This type of player wont have interest in a high level warring clan. Nothing changes for farming clans. Everything stays the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrispeterson
A player SOLEY interested in farming is not going to waste his time building expensive troops for every war effort. Cost isn't the issue. It's cook time that slows down their farming.
Stay Tuned Guys !
Of course, it's my choice... but why heros (and al buildings) are defending in war while they are upgrading? if they are defending they must be attacking. Why people who farm a lot can't go to the war with the same weapons? In this moment I have my two heros upgrading and my Dark Elixir Storage almost full... should I stop farm DE? I want to play clan wars but I can't do without heros because they are a very important weapon that we need to upgradeQuote:
Originally Posted by nubulator
Just spoke with my clans our the new perks and we are all super excited about it. Im very happy with this update. A new clan system will bring another new fun element to the game.
Why not war till you get all the perks then go back to farming?
I can see that for higher level warring clans but that point is still flawed by the clans that only want a smaller war but a big clan. my clan personally would love this because we could recruit farmers and still have our 20 on 20 wars AND have a bigger and active clan without the need of having people who don't want to be in war accidently pulled in war. Basically, clans can be sectioned off now so the real question now is....will this be the end of having a feeder clan for low members you're trying to develop? Because with the update you can just change it to a family system and simply opt them out until you feel they're adequate enough for war. another thing you could say is this could end hoppers because now you can simply opt them out until they've been in long enough and they won't leave during war leaving them to option to either establish loyalty to that clan or simply leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba061
Very very much excited about this updates, thanks SC!!! More PVE content!!! YaYa:cool:
I understand your gripe is that you can't use heroes while upgrading, as is many people's gripe. I would rather be able to use them on attacks as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamero87
But everyone is affected by the same thing, the difference is you are choosing to be a farming clan. So why should you have the perks of a clan who chooses not to be a farming clan?
You get the advantage of getting more loot by being a farming clan to begin with.
Not the end
Lvl 13 Cannon Looks great. Also The Clan War Opt In and out could be very useful espically to farmers and players that dont do clan wars all that much
I think these clan levels will add an interesting new bit to the game but I was kindof hoping the XP wouldn't just be earned from clan warring. My clan wars twice a week but I thought that maybe there would be some gold grab type acheivements as well that also encourages the farming aspects of the game.
Nice sneak peeks. Can't hardly wait for the update soon. And please SC, don't forget to add this simple idea too about war log base number:Thanks in advance! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenArch
Exactly what I was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madd
And if anything this update will benefit farmers. With a lowered request time farmers that use barch will be able to actually have a full CC every time they go out to raid even if they use it every time. It will also help people with donations because they won't be scared to donate low level troops because they will get buffed therefore donations will also go up.
When is the update? or do we have to wait for another sneak peak?
But will clans want smaller war efforts now? You'll level your clan up faster with larger war rosters. Depending how XP is awarded it could be possible for a 40 size clan that loses all the time to level up faster than a 10 size that wins all the time. We have to wait and see on that.
I am curious to see the dynamic on feeder clans, though.
Farming clans do not "get" more loot. They farm more loot. Anyone else is welcome to do the same. I do agree overall though, that upgrading heroes is a choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by nubulator
Exactly, never understood the logic of some who thinks cw gives you loot. CW has always been about the win. With Elixir/DE costs of cc donations, war day donations, building your own army...your net profit (assuming you win) is not worth it for 2 attacks over 24 hrs. Unless you are war farming (but that's more off topic than my off topic response) :oQuote:
Originally Posted by scanners107
There's a reason the game is called Clash of Clans, not Farm with friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveZGE
Can't a clan have 10 TH6 accounts (very easy to make them) and use only those to go to war. The opponents will likely be very weak, and CC can receive up to a dragon, which would make it very easy to win the war against a much weaker clan.
I think farming clans will just figure out a way to farm clan level as well.
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I've yet to read even one reason why or how this affects farming clans in any way.
"Well we won't be able to level up and have access to perks unless we war." So? You're a farming clan; you don't need the perks.
I've never understood farming clans to begin with though. In my clan that wars 1-2 times per week, no one ever has problems with farming. It's rare to see a donation request last for more than a minute or 2 without being filled, unless it's in the middle of the night in America where most of our members reside, and the request is for specialty troops. Why not farm AND war, unless you just really hate wars?
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Originally Posted by DocJC
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Yes, they get more loot by farming for it. When you war you don't have as much time to farm as you are focusing on preparing an attack, calculating the attack, helping others with attacks, donating for every attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete82
Did we not get a forum-exclusive sneak peek this time?? :P (confident I'm not the only one to notice it, or even say it; too lazy to confirm either)
It is now in the OP sir.
Only the top clans aren't farming clans, almost all players are upgrading their village. Why all defenses are working in war while we are upgrading them? It's not make sense! If all defenses are working all "attackers" would be working. Ok, It's the shame for all player... of course, but if Supercell want to reward active clans wars they shouldn't penalize the farmers who are upgrading all their village to be a top player in the future, and more because the 80% or more are player who are farming in the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by nubulator
I wonder if loosing a war would still award a little clan XP? If it does then war farming could become more prevalent.
Bottom line is that most clans will choose to be warring back to back. People may sit out when they have heros down, they are busy at work, they are on vacation, or they just need a break. This will be good because it will mean less kicking before searches and fewer people booted after a war for not attacking. This rinse and repeat process is hard on leadership as it is impossible to know whether someone's internet really quit working suddenly or they really did have a family emergency come up. We are constantly recruiting after kicking 3-4 people after every single war. That gets old.
Good update. It will also reward those who are running clans now as we get a head start on all players starting the game after us. I don't mind that at all.
I like the update.
Dang what a bunch of wussys !!!!
Crying and whining !!!!
- Why not just expect 100,000 gems with each new update ??
- Sure why not that would only be fair, so you can compete whit the champs at 4,xxx...
Heck yeah I have B!T^Hed about some things SC has done but this isn't one of them...
The leaked information seems pretty good to me ! But (for example only) farmers crying that his clan wont get as much loot or experience cuz they don't war.... Really ???
Why would you even think you should ??? Ba!!up children this is a war game...
NOT EVERYONE GETS A TROPHIE, SAME AS IN LIFE !!! LOL
But yes I would also like to see Hero's that are upgrading be able to attack and defend in wars...
- I wont gem to finish just for a war and I don't think most would either ....
WE NEED THESE THINGS RIGHT NOW !!! it will be an awesome update Supercell :p thankssssQuote:
Originally Posted by Anoushka[Supercell]
everyone is penalized equallyQuote:
Originally Posted by gamero87
So what I am taking from this is just another advantage to ¡mod clans. I don't really like the rewarding of ♥♥♥♥♥ers they need to end the ¡mod mass ♥♥♥♥♥ing before benefiting wars more. I am also hoping th8 can't donate each other max pekka not that I care at th10 but I think that kind of kills the game a bit. Having those troops is a perk of being a th10
I know, it really sucks that your opponents have leveled-up heros AND get to use them in wars the entire time while you must choose to use them or level them up.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamero87
Wait...pretty sure it's even all the way around for everybody.
What do you think?
My war army takes over three hours. On War day that is 6 hours that I cannot raid. My war army takes hundreds of thousands of elixer depending on what I use for that raid. Prep day is ruined too because I train CC troops and cant raid with those troops to farm. If I am farming heroes then I cant really war because I wont want to have them asleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by thegajone
The reason that some people do not notice is because they aren't quite as active. They start a war army training and then come back when its ready, rinse and repeat. When I load the game I want to raid, not wait to do my war attack.
Are updates usually 3amish tuesday or 3amish wednesday PST? I don't wanna miss golden hour and need to know so i can have my boosts ready and not sleep or take a nap also.
For those of you arguing about farming and wars, this game was called clash of clans before wars were introduced. Everyone plays the game differently and you should respect that.
Any leader who loses his clan in such a manner never deserved the clan in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by rohitkorde
Can anyone confirm if the donation perks (levelled up troops, cost refund) apply to all donations or just ones to war clan castles? :confused:
Yes, where is our forum historian?
It does not. There is no way to account of how, when, and by whom those wars were won.Quote:
Originally Posted by WarrenR86
Really? Are you sure? Company in distress makes the sorrow less... One thing can be wrong for all the same and it doesn't make rightQuote:
Originally Posted by FisherPrice
Usually they come out Wednesdays. Idk what time, I have a life, so every hour is golden hour.
so update will be on 25.2 2015 wednesday?
When is the update?
Haven't most updates been on Thursdays? Or is it Tuesdays?
Junk!! Discriminates against farming clans......Pointless
You do realize they can opt out now, right? You only need ten people to go to war.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveZGE
anoushka has made a thread detailing this. clan exp is earned through wars.
Anoushka didn't say sneak peek tomorrow, does that mean tomorrow hopefully we will get the update? anyone think so?
As a TH10 I'm not sure I fully understand the benefits of more CC storage. My maxed CC currently can hold 2 million gold or elixir and 10,000 dark lix.
In our current war if I was to three starred both top two enemy bases I would only reap around 1.1 million gold/elixir and 5,700 dark.
Is this more geared at those in the lower TH range?
Can anyone give a sourceQuote:
Originally Posted by Matthew81
Knowing sc, probably take 100wins at least to get to lv10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madd
A. You can save the loot in your cc now for 3 wars... Benefits: gold and elixer can be raided for only 5% while in storeges iTS much more %Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinkpickle63
What if you want to keep your resources in CC for two wars. Maybe have 2 big upgrades at the same time for example. I used my cc storage when I upgraded to TH10 to do 2 infernos at the same time to have them both in warQuote:
Originally Posted by Stinkpickle63
I have a farming clan and I wont let the update bully me ino changing policy. :mad:
Its remains to be seen how useful these 'perks' actually are and whether they are reatined once gained or does it reset every sesaon?
the best bit of the update is the opt/in/out thing ( probabaly, depending on how it actually works in practice) but the rest is really just meh....
the perks stirke me as not more than a bit of frill ...
Farming is still what makes this game great. I think you might see clans get to lvl 10 then do straight farming again but idt you will ever see farming clans just die
and thats wednesdat early am for pacific standard time?
SC will not make it too easy to get level up a clan for sure. To switch to a casual war clan for the perks then switch back to farming only will probably take much longer than you expect. And by then, how much of farming spirit still remain?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tmoss1125
No one in my clans use CC for storage and immediately dump the loot into collectors after wars as - assuming you've set up your base properly - its the safest place to store loot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saleh47
I suppose, in theory, there could be upgrades coming that will require more loot than what storage can handle alone?
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaKai
LOL! That's like saying Ferrari discriminates against slow drivers. The narcissism on this forum is so entertaining.
I have nothing against farming clan. Actually think pure farming clan are real hardcore and competitive. I'm just merely pointing out a fact: sc gives out perks and recognition to those who war a lot. I think it is a significant message.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bwit51
Farming clans have the ability to start wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaKai
But you know that CC is the safest place to store loot in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinkpickle63
I store it in cc until I need it for wall upgrade before I sleep or for a big upgrade when I need to close game and have a free builder. Don't think anything coming that would need more than 8 millions. In many updates when they add new levels to a defense or a unit they decrease the price of the previous and set then new to max or near max storage of gold/elixir storages
I take it I am right to assume clans level up based on war wins. When clans lose wars they get angry and many clans will have arguments over this. Clan levels give even more incentive to win and i have a feeling people will want to reach the top level asap.
No doubt this is going to cause more and more drama in clans already and people will hate losing
after all... why stick in a clan that may lose a few when you can join a clan that has a better chance at reaching max level faster... right..?
No it will make them to stick
A properly set-up base will have the clan castle centralized, where it is most protected. You can only take 5% of the loot from it also, so that is twice the reason to store loot in it, if you are saving up for a big upgrade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinkpickle63
true...
i'm already trying to think what i would say to my members... lol
So lvl ten clans, get +2 lvls on troops donated (to def cc only im guessing) so if thats the case,th7 s and under will have maxed troops in def ccs,making def very OP to say the least for th lvls3-7, if this is what it looks like,making attks a lot more harder for clans that dont have maxed troop support from maxed players in clan already,there will be a rush for everyone to reach lvl clan, but will many just shy away from wars? And im guessing that +2 troop lvl means nothing to maxed ten bases and troops since theres a lvl cap.. Just popping of random thoughts lol,EDIT: so hows a TH4 attking another TH4 gunna kill a maxed drag? Witch an. Valk ètc ya catch my drift now?
At least we get to opt-out the people that suck :cool:
lets think the logic behind many playersQuote:
Originally Posted by Ahorer
why stick in a clan that is likely to lose when you can join a better clan that wins more?
like anyone liked losing beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by hjennings69