TH 8 gold/essence balance

I hit TH8 just when they made a few changes. Lots of changes were good, but I'm now at a point where I still need heaps of gold, and have no idea what to use the essence for. It just adds up so I become a sexy target, while upgrades requiring gold lines up into eternity (almost).

I usually level up everything before next TH, but not sure how that will work out now. It's mainly troop upgrades left (and one dark barrack). Still I have numerous defence units still needing upgrades, and perhaps 80 percent of walls. Walls alone take 500k each. Before change one could choose between gold or essence for walls, but it was revoked.

Good for clan members, I try to get rid of essence through crazy costly troops, but they take a lot of time to cook.

I could go for wizards, dragons and PEKKA armys, but then it would take hours between army being ready.

I do believe making walls a choice between the two resources would help even it out, at least for me. But not sure how most players experience it. Anybody else facing the same issue of imbalance between gold/essence?

You probably put down the game for a longer period of time a couple of times a day (at least). Just train up high cost troops then. I like balloons, so I always train up a set (with spells) at night, and raid with them first thing in the morning, and then train another set to use first thing in the evening. You could do dragons, which are much more costly.

I had the same problem at TH7 with DE, and had fun doing hog raids every couple of days or so!

I'm early TH8 and war with dragons alot, so I can't get enough elixer, and I'm overflowing with gold.

Not related to the OP at all, but I have never heard it called, 'essence', before.

ive had no problems maxing th 8 ic ould make 6-8 million gold on a good day which is every day :D



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They aren't going to tell you this but TH8 having no use for elixir is because there is such a high need for elixir at TH9. When they allowed TH8 to use elix on walls, there were was a huge backlash from alot of angry TH9s because the elixir pool pretty much dried up and caused a massive imbalance in the economy. Instead of finding ways for TH9s to make more elixir they just decided to move it back to TH8s being the elixir donate stations for TH9.

Currently I'm maxing my last couple of buildings at TH8 before moving to TH9. I am usually close to maxed out with elixir and have almost nothing left that takes elixir, I moved all my elixir storage's outside of my base next to my town hall. I've had good luck in TH9s sniping my base and elixir storages and leaving alone my gold and dark elixir. I guess if they can get a free 300k in elixir without using a ton of troops they are happy with that and don't bother attacking my other resources. I also train dragon armies for fun and to revenge all the zappers.

How my attack log looks like:
http://i.imgur.com/IzwhUvj.png
Currently have another army ready, and four more PEKKAs on queues. :rolleyes:

Put your th in a corner of the map unprotected...and put one of your lix storages right beside it.

Sure you will lose 90k elixir each attack but lots of people will stop at that and take their win.

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Originally Posted by coachmoneyball

Put your th in a corner of the map unprotected...and put one of your lix storages right beside it.

Sure you will lose 90k elixir each attack but lots of people will stop at that and take their win.

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Tried that, didn't work as they would still hit the th and then try for more loot. Its better in the base to delay there troops as your defense destroy's there army.

Max your Mortar's and centralize them. That will hold off a lot of attack's. and prevent other's from attacking.

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Originally Posted by chow13

Tried that, didn't work as they would still hit the th and then try for more loot. Its better in the base to delay there troops as your defense destroy's there army.

Max your Mortar's and centralize them. That will hold off a lot of attack's. and prevent other's from attacking.

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I do understand your logic...assuming you believe thats better then I assume your th is always inside your walls?

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Originally Posted by Ekornpai

I hit TH8 just when they made a few changes. Lots of changes were good, but I'm now at a point where I still need heaps of gold, and have no idea what to use the essence for. It just adds up so I become a sexy target, while upgrades requiring gold lines up into eternity (almost).

I usually level up everything before next TH, but not sure how that will work out now. It's mainly troop upgrades left (and one dark barrack). Still I have numerous defence units still needing upgrades, and perhaps 80 percent of walls. Walls alone take 500k each. Before change one could choose between gold or essence for walls, but it was revoked.

Good for clan members, I try to get rid of essence through crazy costly troops, but they take a lot of time to cook.

I could go for wizards, dragons and PEKKA armys, but then it would take hours between army being ready.

I do believe making walls a choice between the two resources would help even it out, at least for me. But not sure how most players experience it. Anybody else facing the same issue of imbalance between gold/essence?

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Essence? you mean elixir??

If you need gold and have heaps of elixir, mass drag farm. It's soooo fun to grab 300k gold and 20-30 trophies with mass drags. If that does not meet your fancy go with other expensive troops: Pekka's for instance.

If each raid pulls in 300k gold, and you do not care about your other resources, just protect the gold storages. You wont get hit that hard between raids. Right now I log in and use the dragon army/spells I cooked. Restart the troop creation and log out. come back later, do it again. Half the time I have been TH sniped with minimal loss of resources between each raid.

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Originally Posted by coachmoneyball

I do understand your logic...assuming you believe thats better then I assume your th is always inside your walls?

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What, no. Putting the elixir storage beside the TH in a corner does not work. It did not increase the number of TH sniper's in my experience. I found it was better to have the storage in your base with the TH out. Since putting the elixir storage with your TH outside your giving up another 2000 hit point's( where no defense's are attacking it)

Edit: I use my elixir storage's to take the damage as my splash defences take out the attacking troop's and protect my gold/de

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Originally Posted by chow13

What, no. Putting the elixir storage beside the TH in a corner does not work. It did not increase the number of TH sniper's in my experience. I found it was better to have the storage in your base with the TH out. Since putting the elixir storage with your TH outside your giving up another 2000 hit point's( where no defense's are attacking it)

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No I understand that thinking. So shouldn't your town hall go inside because it also has lots of hit points almost twice as much as an elixir storage. So it should be inside making defenders attack that.

I agree with you in theory...as long as your th also is inside.

I mean with your th out isn't the attacker "they would still hit the th and then try for more loot. Its better in the base to delay there troops as your defense destroy's there army." Doesn't this still apply?

I have seen elixer, elexer, eliksir, elixor, even elexor, but never essence.

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Originally Posted by coachmoneyball

No I understand that thinking. So shouldn't your town hall go inside because it also has lots of hit points almost twice as much as an elixir storage. So it should be inside making defenders attack that.

I agree with you in theory...as long as your th also is inside.

I mean with your th out isn't the attacker "they would still hit the th and then try for more loot. Its better in the base to delay there troops as your defense destroy's there army." Doesn't this still apply?

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No, a sniper is going to snipe and give you a free shield, a barcher might choose to attack your base since they know they can recoup the cost of a barch army by hitting your TH and elixir storage that are outside with 3-4 troop's and then they can focus all the rest of there troop's on getting gold or de. I also noticed I would get more zapper's as they could also get there zap cost back.

Edit: It also encourages more expensive armies to attack as they know they can get most of there army cost back and still try hitting the base.

Most of my clan members have ended a lot of excess elixer because there are fewer things to spend it on at TH8.

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Originally Posted by Yoyobuae

How my attack log looks like:
http://i.imgur.com/IzwhUvj.png
Currently have another army ready, and four more PEKKAs on queues. :rolleyes:

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Do not defend Supercell's stupid decision to simply revert the update, restricting walls to only TH9/10s. You may be showing that you "have a use" for all that elixir but what I'm seeing is that you're farming ~300-400k loot per hour. Not gold per hour. Not elixir per hour. Total loot. You can barch and easily make 1.2M gold/800k elixir per hour as a TH8, totaling 2M per hour. You may not have the problem of overflowing storages but you're certainly not managing your time or resources efficiently either.

Do not hold anything back when blaming Supercell for a completely lazy band-aid fix to a problem that still plagues TH10s post-update, when what was really needed was a reform to the elixir for walls system. The latter would allow for every single level of wall to be upgraded with gold or elixir, and have no negative impact on the economy either.

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Originally Posted by Goobers

Do not defend Supercell's stupid decision to simply revert the update, restricting walls to only TH9/10s. You may be showing that you "have a use" for all that elixir but what I'm seeing is that you're farming ~300-400k loot per hour. Not gold per hour. Not elixir per hour. Total loot. You can barch and easily make 1.2M gold/800k elixir per hour as a TH8, totaling 2M per hour. You may not have the problem of overflowing storages but you're certainly not managing your time or resources efficiently either.

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I don't give a damn about your stupid barch and stupid "1.2M whatever per hour".

This whole "farming efficiency over everything" is just plain dumb. Why put so much effort into something you'll never enjoy because you're too busy being "efficient" all the time? It's dumb I tell you.

It's like working your ♥♥♥ off your entire life to afford stuff you never use because you're too busy working, then you die without having enjoyed any of the things you worked so hard for.

In fact, it's the "farming efficiency over everything" mentality is what causes this "overflowing elixir" problem in the first place. If you guys weren't farming so much, maybe you wouldn't be overflowing elixir. Yes, you wouldn't be upgrading stuff as efficient as possible, WHO CARES!?!? you can enjoy the game with what you have NOW!!!

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Originally Posted by rhound50

TH8s being the elixir donate stations for TH9

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haha, yes!

It's kind of funny when people rename things...

This is my first time too hearing someone refer to elixir as essence.

Another guy referred to Wizards as Mages...

funny stuff..

Thanks for all the thoughts and ideas around this. And yes, it's called elixir! My bad, mixed it up with some other game (Not sure which).

I'll definitely play more with expensive troops, I guess it's the only way. And perhaps find a clan doing wars (and loses).

:)

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Originally Posted by Yoyobuae

I don't give a damn about your stupid barch and stupid "1.2M whatever per hour".

This whole "farming efficiency over everything" is just plain dumb. Why put so much effort into something you'll never enjoy because you're too busy being "efficient" all the time? It's dumb I tell you.

It's like working your ♥♥♥ off your entire life to afford stuff you never use because you're too busy working, then you die without having enjoyed any of the things you worked so hard for.

In fact, it's the "farming efficiency over everything" mentality is what causes this "overflowing elixir" problem in the first place. If you guys weren't farming so much, maybe you wouldn't be overflowing elixir. Yes, you wouldn't be upgrading stuff as efficient as possible, WHO CARES!?!? you can enjoy the game with what you have NOW!!!

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Well that's a cute analogy, but in life you can take a step back and just enjoy the time you have with whatever resources you have available to you and your family. To try and make that same comparison here is just... what? By taking such an inefficient way to farm, you are spending more time, away from your life, to earn far less resources, meaning you don't have as much to create the things in this game that make it fun. This is a stupid phone app game; why spend hours upon hours of your real life on it getting nowhere?