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lol .... the last event, when they reduced the training time for dragons was hilarious --- Watching those mass dragons fail everytime when some th7 or 8 thought they'd like my DE .....
Utter garbage that a "decent th9" could be 3 starred by draogns.......
OP at TH7? -- probably --- but a decent mid/late TH8, should have no problems defending mass drags ....
That's theoretical, but not what I've seen in real wars. Sure there are designs that make it more difficult by luring dragons around the edge and centralizing the AD, but show me a base design that can't be 3 starred from any angle with dragons, especially with the help of max balloons. Remember, in clan wars the attacker can study the base for a whole day to find the weaknesses.Quote:
Originally Posted by victort
I have bounced around in many clans and have seen different clan types and make ups.
At Th7, dragons are so dominate its not even funny. There are other strategies, but with the effectiveness of dragons, few bother to use anything else. Giant/Healer can 3 star. Hogs can be worked in for 3 stars (with giants). .... But really their isn't many war troops in a Th7 repertoire.
But at Th8 their is a big difference between hardcore war clans and what they use verses the average clan.
The typical Th8 is pretty heavy in dragon usage, and they are still present in higher skill level war play
But when talking about skilled players Dragon attacks aren't even dominate at Th8. GoWiPe is frequent, GoWiVa, and Hogs are all used just as often if not more used. And in my opinion a good Giant/Healer attack is still powerful against certain base types at Th8. (on my little account I 3 star base with Giant/Healer/Hog)
Yes, early Th8 dragons still kick butt - but once that 3rd AD gets leveled and you adjust your base they really aren't more impressive than other Th8 strategies.
I 3 starred th9 in clan wars. ..period
In our clan we regularly joke about how stupid dragons are. "Oh, something is shooting at me; I think I will smell the pretty flowers." is how we put it.
A bit off topic but I've wondered if changing the AI so a dragon would go and attack whatever was attacking it might make them a bit more effective without being OP.
I'm not sure which side of the debate you're on, but what you said seems to help prove that dragons are OP even at TH 8. Sure, if you're very skilled you can use other attacks, but it doesn't take much skill to 3 star with mass dragons against most TH 8 bases. If they were less powerful, then others might try other approaches like what you mention. This would also help prepare them for TH9, where those types of attacks are more of a necessity.Quote:
Originally Posted by NioTheDreamer
Dragons are really strong against Th7. Pretty easy for 3 stars and people get hooked on them. Once you go Th8 it starts taking considerable skill to get 3 stars past mid way point. Once a Th8 has higher level teslas, higher level archer towers, and air defense lvl 6, dragons are no longer your best bet. Hogs are by far the best attack on Th8 bases in my opinion but many players do not level their hogs. At Th9 dragons are pretty much useless unless you enjoy 1 star attacks with a possibility of 2 stars.
This is my take from a pretty successful Th7/8 focused war clan. We are very good with our dragons but those top th8 bases require countless attacks with dragons to get a 3 star. We also encouter clans that use a majority of mass dragon attacks and they fail to 3 star most of our th8 bases. I think the dragon is fine just where it is. Its balance is just right. Mid to top level Th8 is a chore for our skilled dragon players and its much easier to use hogs and 3 star those bases. We don't use dragons at all on Th9 bases as they are to weak to get a 3 star, ever. This observation is from clan wars where we go up against well leveled bases most of the time. We don't allow premie Th in our clan so we rarely get matched up against them. I would assume if your clan has a bunch of premature bases and you get matched up against similar clans the dragons would be more OP or seem more OP.
No I find they are quite stupid. Haven't used them in months.
This is what I meant in my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram979
Dragons are not over powered, l2p. If your Air Defense is under developed or poorly placed then prepare to be eating alive by air units in general.
At higher level of play dragons are useless. I have a decent base for a TH9, but I just watched a TH10 player throw an army composition at me that had 7 max level dragons and used 5 spells and only got 39% on me.
If anything, dragons need some serious work.