So im a lvl 88 th9.
And i cant stop asking me what if i max my army and upgrade to th10.
Because i could farm th9 bases (only 5% loot reduced) with a maxed th9 army.
Would the defense drawbacks be too much to handle?
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So im a lvl 88 th9.
And i cant stop asking me what if i max my army and upgrade to th10.
Because i could farm th9 bases (only 5% loot reduced) with a maxed th9 army.
Would the defense drawbacks be too much to handle?
Why can you not farm town hall 9 bases as a town hall 9 ?
as a townhall 9 you get most of your loot from th8s usually, not th9s. plus the loot penalty is 10% for 1 townhall level below, 50% for 2 levels. stay th9 and farm everything, i dont understand why you would want to go to 10.
Because i want to go to th10 and upgrade wizzs and farm even better.Quote:
Originally Posted by jkd
And i would have more things to build so my 4 builders would always be busy.
Stay at TH9 and max everything as much as possible.
Farming in TH10 is different than any other TH because of the loot penalty. Dead bases are rare and your only viable option is to either do storage raids or aim for league bonuses (C1 up).
If you are a storage raider, ask your self, are you confident in attacking bases with infernos?
If you rely on league bonus, is your BARCHING skills above average?
I would try to max everything 1st except walls and heroes (at least lvl9 wall and lvl 20 heroes) before going TH10.
why do you use wizards to farm and why do you think like 10 extra damage will help you farm better?Quote:
Originally Posted by nanidev
Like a great youtuber and fellow forum fan always says: "It's all about the efficiency."
That 10% you lose doesn't seem too much now (you lose 40% on th8s btw) but when you are raiding all the time it's suddenly quite a lot. And people can steal more from you too. This is only what you lose, around 10% of your income.
let's move on to what you win, basically nothing in my opinion. You want to farm with lvl6 wizards instead of lvl5, back to the efficiency, the wizard is one of the least efficient troops i can think of when you aim for loot. I don't know what other benefits you will find at th10 really.
so my opinion: try to max as much out as possible! Walls10 and heroes30 are maybe a bit too much, but my advice certainly is lvl9 walls and lvl20 heroes.
cheers.
You probably hardly noticed a gold/elixir farming dropoff from TH8 to TH9, but this is absolutely not going to be the case for TH10. Two main reasons why this is:
1) Elixir for walls allowed for TH9/10s but not TH8s
2) Loot penalty forcing you to hit TH9s unless you come across a totally stacked TH8 base.
Factor in the bump from 750 to 1000 gold per Next, and that TH7/8/9s get to those dead bases much more frequently than you will, in addition to your more expensive troops, and you have a recipe for a very real dropoff in gold/elixir farming per hour. I would say it will drop by at least 50%, whereas you might notice a 15% dropoff at TH9 from TH8. DE farming isn't increased by that much either, nothing like when you went from TH8 to TH9.
There's no reason why you shouldn't max out at least all your structures first before considering moving on. You'll never have wasted overflowing elixir at TH9 w/ elixir for walls and you'll be able to do hero upgrades at TH9 as well. The only time you should think about moving up to TH10 early is once your structures are done and you have constantly idle builders. That or if you're in a hardcore warring clan and they really need you to get your offense to TH10 levels. But even after you finish your structure upgrades you should consider how badly you want to complete all your walls, as you'll be finished with TH10 structures long before you even get lavas completed if you move up early.
This makes no sense whatsoever. First, wiz don't help you farm better. Second, from the looks of it you have a lot of upgrading to do so why u can't keep your builders busy now? Please explain because I'm not getting it. Use barch to farm and not wiz. Upgrade all your defenses to max first then upgrade if you want. Or just upgrade now, it's your game and your time.Quote:
Originally Posted by nanidev
Max the troops you would use, as well as defenses.
I also wanted to go into th10, for lvl 7barch and giants, lvl5 minions and inferno tower, plus, more spells and 20 more spaces. Today i found 10 bases ( th8 ) that in total was 900,000 loot and league bonus. Thats almost 5million gold and elixir raiding the softest guys ever. I dont think ill get such easy raids as a th10 and will most likely stay at th9, because th8s are the easiest guys to loot in the game. Th9 is one of the nicest place to max if you are into that. A th10, if he comes from a maxed th9, takes about two months to max with 5 builders going non stop.
My god these people are unbelieveable.
Get your defense to almost max for th9 except walls. Get your heroes to decent level whatever you think it is.
Then upgrade.
Why fear loot penalty? You literally decimate every single th9 out there with maxed lavalonion. And th9 brings max 8 millions gold elixir. Loot penalty? 300k on the bank each time you annihilate full storages. That is more than enough.
Dont listen to these guys screaming loot penalty this and that.
I think you are just looking for someone to give you the ok to move up early, it's your choice, a stupid choice, but still your choice.
Isn't that what most of these "should I go to th x" threads are about? People just looking for someone to confirm the choice they have already made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zedon
First they have to find those 300k bases, which are not common as a TH10. Then what? They get the whole thing? Ok. And they attack at most once an hour, although unlikely it's that often. You can barch 3x an hour or more as a TH9 hitting inactive bases and level TH8 storages with those same tier 1 troops. I don't think there's been a single person here who has said that purely due to the loot penalty, don't move up. There are many things that come into play, and to try and tell this person that they won't face a very real, very significant gold/elixir farming dropoff per hour is a flat out lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeroxxx
Elixir for walls at TH9 (making very few TH9s attractive from a storage standpoint), the increased Nexting cost, loot penalty, the fact that the loot penalty takes away TH7s and the majority of TH8 inactives from being farmable, the fact that your lvl 7 barch is even more expensive yet can't hit TH9s like lvl 6 can take down TH8s, and there are so many more factors that fall into why gold/elixir farming at TH10 is significantly more difficult and not able to get close to the levels of that of a TH9. Trying to come on here dismissing everyone's input with a lavaloonion farming example get the hell outta here.
Agree. I would say that level 88 sounds way too premie to go to town hall 10, I was level 100ish and looking back even that was early, I hadn't maxed my walls they were level 7, my heroes were about level 12 and some of my defence wasn't maxed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkeyhole
I would advise getting all level 9 walls heroes to level 15-20 and all defences maxed before you look at upgrading that town hall. As a new town hall 10 there is so much to do, give yourself a good start by being a reasonably strong town hall 9.
That said I am sure you will do what you want anyway! ;)
Don't listen to these guys. I say get to th10 as fast as possible. I mean, I would say just stop at lvl 4 troops and lvl 7 archer towers too.
It will be really easy for you to farm because people will not raid you because your town hall is red.
i, nor any other person, would raid your resources. Because you wouldn't be able to fill them.
Eventually, you will rage quit CoC, leaving yet another dead base for the rest of us.
please, please, go straight to th10. But, be nice and upgrade your gold/elixir collectors first okay?
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Originally Posted by megatronnnnn
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TH10>any TH in every way, except for one thing, Loot. TH10 has best defenses by far, the highest troops etc.. They have the best of everything. The biggest problem is the game design.
The elixir for walls is a HUGE thing that creates a sweet spot for TH9's. TH8's will have pretty much max elixir for most of their time at TH8. As a TH9 you can find almost unlimited elixir from TH8s and then instantly spend it on walls. Now this sucks for TH10s, because TH9s can dump gold and elixir into their walls and log of with low to no resources every night. This is why TH9 is the sweetest spot in the game for loot. Also, a TH9 can protect their loot much much better than a TH7 or TH8 can.
So really, as a TH10 these TH9s, who can dump resources at will, are all you have to feed on. TH8s, have much easier defenses to raid and way more loot available on average. Lots more easy collector raids with cheap armies, lower next costs and it makes going to TH10 not so attractive.
Is having the best defense/offense in the game worth slower loot?? Yeah, if you have little to do at TH9, then of course move up, but why rush it?
Right, lets not take into account that th9 is a feeder for th10. While th10 nobody dares to touch if properly made. Let us assume th9 has all perfect defenses when offline.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobers
And th10 can barch th9 no problem.
Lets assume th10 cant do what th9 can.
Faulty opinion you have there.
2 words. NOOB RUSHER
TH 10. lol. :rolleyes:
But in all honestly, try to stay at TH 9 until you get bored out of your mind. Going up a TH with reduce your loot greatly, so take advantage of it while you're a TH 9.
As always, the recommendation is to farm everything to max before you upgrade to the next town hall.
Screenshots of you barching TH9s as a TH10 please. Otherwise keep your terrible advice off the boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeroxxx
And you might as well concede on this whole discussion. I found it quite humorous that you dropped your "TH10 Lavaloonion farming" argument like a bad habit once I tore it to shreds, and are now trying to grasp at other straws to keep your position valid. But yes, please show me your TH10 barch raids on TH9s. I'd love to see how you breached even 2 storages on those bases when it's hard enough getting half of them with a solid GiBarch attack.
I would stick it out man
I'm a lv96 TH10.
I've had my lab going 100% of the time since I started playing (and have gemmed time off a few crucial upgrades in the lab). I've had a few periods where I wasn't playing heavily, and had idle builders for a bit. I had only Healing Spell, Hogs, and Healer left in my lab. I hit the upgrade button.
The defensive buildings that I hadn't maxed were:
1/4 Mortars was only level 6
2/4 Wizard Towers were only level 6
Air Defenses were all level 6
Archer Towers are only level 9
Cannons are all level 10
I've been TH10 for about a week. I bought $50 worth of gems to make sure I could gem finish times when I had enough for the next upgrade:
Lab (gemmed finish)
Spell Fact (gemmed finish)
Barb Level 7 (gemmed finish)
Lava Hound 3 (gemmed finish)
Started Archer 7 (no gem)
Inferno Tower 1 + 2 (gemmed finish)
Inferno Tower 2 (no gem)
All 4 camps started (1 finish gemmed)
Xbow 3 started (no gem)
3rd DE drill (gemmed finish)
Now that all the camps are done, I only have the 3rd DE drill to spend elixer on. All excess elixer will be going into my walls (I have skulls + ~70 legos).
Some notes:
Currently, I'm raiding with both heroes active (BK 15, AQ 11). I have 225 camp spaces, 30 space CC. I don't use my CC on offense (I have archers+wizards in there for defense, mainly). My pattern of raids is generally:
First raid - both heroes
Second raid - just AQ
Third raid - no hero
Fourth raid - both heroes
I don't farm with spells.
I can 50% any TH9 except completely maxed and well designed bases. These are extremely rare.
I can 2 star the majority of TH9s that I find, and many are showing 100k+ of gold/elixer.
Collector raids are more rare, sure, but when I find a dead TH8 collector base, I can still hit it for 150/150, and I do so using only 30-40% of my total army (as opposed to 60-80% of my TH9 army, even though I only have lv7 barbs, lv6 archers, and 225 spaces, not 240).
My overall loot / hour from bases is lower, definitely. However:
For fun, 2 nights ago, I switched from a farming base (TH outside) to a "pushing/war" base with a heavily protected TH. I have yet to lose a defense (despite being attacked by max'd TH10 farming comps). One attacker has managed 120k elixer (he got <15k gold), another managed 60k elixer (<5k gold). The rest (14 additional attempts) have managed less than 10k gold+elixer COMBINED. Not one person has managed to get more than 150 DE (and that was from my lv1 pump on the outside). I've gained almost 250 trophies, for free, bumping me from 1950 all the way up to nearly 2200.
That never happened when I tried to do the same thing at TH9. When I put my TH inside for a weekend at TH9, I ended up down 2.5 million gold, 3.1 million elixer, and 15k DE. And I stayed neutral on trophies.
So yes, you have to move up a few leagues to offset that reduction in loot you'll get from the actual bases you attack. However, not only is it easier (I'm winning defenses with ONE level 1 inferno tower (the other is going to level 2 - so I've already been showing 6.5M gold to attract juicy attacks) to go up in cups, its easier to maintain them as well.
And I'm a fairly far from defensively maxed TH9.