Reduce 50% the next button cost!!! I belive that the cost should be symolic!!

HELLO EVERYBODY,

Think for a moment when you have been searching for about 15 minutes and after a certain point you've sunk 200k into nexting, it can become very very frustrating and nothing about that is fun.

The big issue I have with the next cost is it increases substantially at higher TH levels, while overall ability to make loot drops. Building costs, troop costs, and the penalty are already heavily working against you. The next cost I feel is simply too much when stacked against the other disadvantages.

Personally i get very bored while farming, nexting for an exaggerated time, and I believe that if you hit next a lot of times maybe you shouldn't go broke doing it by loosing sometimes more gold than what you will gain....

Please VOTE and COMMENT to bring this thread under the attention of Supercell!
If you don`t know what to write please just Reply to Thread copy/paste: Yes i want the cost reduced 50%!


Actual Cost:

Th LVL	Next Cost
1	10
2	50
3	75
4	110
5	170
6	250
7	380
8	580
9	750
10	1000

-50% Cost:

Th LVL	Next Cost
1	5
2	25
3	35
4	55
5	85
6	125
7	190
8	290
9	375
10	500

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The thread aims to make Supercell reconsider the next button cost (it can be more or less then 50%).
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rather reasonable...even desirable...

It's not really that big of a deal, you spend 20k elixir and 20k gold to find a base and earn 200k each, totally reasonable.

Pointless.

Whats a maxed th10 doing in C2 and what great need is there for loot for a nearly maxed th10.

Loads of lòot bases are available in C2 and C1 for a th9 like me from rich th10s. I really dont know what you are talking about.

The big issue I have with the next cost is it increases substantially at higher TH levels, while overall ability to make loot drops. Building costs, troop costs, and the penalty are already heavily working against you. The next cost I feel is simply too much when stacked against the other disadvantages.

Personally I think next costs should decrease as next is hit more often. This would still force folks to have to think about whether or not a target is worth attacking or passing on, but after a certain point once you've sunk 200k into nexting, it can become very very frustrating and nothing about that is fun.

It also reflects the idea that the system is random and some time periods offer crappier raids than others, meaning that the average number of nexts might be higher before someone finds something they like.

I'm not sure what numbers would work best, but I'm thinking something like a 1% drop in cost per next until 50% of the start cost is reached.

So a TH10 hitting next would start at 1k, the next would be 990, the next 980. Eventually after hitting next 50 times, the cost would flat line at 500g.

Thus a TH10 who hits next 50 times would spend 40k instead of 50k. A TH10 who hits next 100 times would spend 65k instead of 100k. A TH10 who hits next 200 times would spend 115k instead of 200k.

I'm sure these numbers could be tweaked better, but they explain the overall concept.

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Originally Posted by Diegoxx

you are just being lazy
the price is ok you just want supercell to make your life easier by reducing the cost

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Yelling makes you look dumber, so please don't do it.:)

He's not being lazy, he is a nearly maxed th10. I think you're being lazy because you didn't read through the post, and because your capitalization and punctuation is horrendous.

Also, I second this idea.:)

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Originally Posted by Diegoxx

you are just being lazy
the price is ok you just want supercell to make your life easier by reducing the cost

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You act as though asking them to relieve one of the game's pain points that doesn't result in direct profit for them is a bad thing.

Please explain why.

Also explain how it's lazy to acknowledge that while you may have to hit next a lot of times maybe you shouldn't go broke doing it.

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Originally Posted by Galath

It's not really that big of a deal, you spend 20k elixir and 20k gold to find a base and earn 200k each, totally reasonable.

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When do you ever pay elixer to find a math?

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Originally Posted by HerrickSpencer

When do you ever pay elixer to find a math?

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You don't which is why his point is completely irrelevant and he has no idea what he is talking about

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Originally Posted by Spurs978

You don't which is why his point is completely irrelevant and he has no idea what he is talking about

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Well, if you count making an army as part of finding a base, then yeah, but 20k elixir is enough for 100 archers level 5 and that's it.

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Originally Posted by Ataraxia

Well, if you count making an army as part of finding a base, then yeah, but 20k elixir is enough for 100 archers level 5 and that's it.

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Most armies are more expensive than that at higher levels which is when you are doing more searching

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Originally Posted by dahimi

The big issue I have with the next cost is it increases substantially at higher TH levels, while overall ability to make loot drops. Building costs, troop costs, and the penalty are already heavily working against you. The next cost I feel is simply too much when stacked against the other disadvantages.

Personally I think next costs should decrease as next is hit more often. This would still force folks to have to think about whether or not a target is worth attacking or passing on, but after a certain point once you've sunk 200k into nexting, it can become very very frustrating and nothing about that is fun.

It also reflects the idea that the system is random and some time periods offer crappier raids than others, meaning that the average number of nexts might be higher before someone finds something they like.

I'm not sure what numbers would work best, but I'm thinking something like a 1% drop in cost per next until 50% of the start cost is reached.

So a TH10 hitting next would start at 1k, the next would be 990, the next 980. Eventually after hitting next 50 times, the cost would flat line at 500g.

Thus a TH10 who hits next 50 times would spend 40k instead of 50k. A TH10 who hits next 100 times would spend 65k instead of 100k. A TH10 who hits next 200 times would spend 115k instead of 200k.

I'm sure these numbers could be tweaked better, but they explain the overall concept.

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The whole point of next cost is to dis-incentivise nexting over raiding though, by reducing it as you next then it actually promotes further nexting the more you next as people would think "I am already getting the discounted rate, I should just carry on until I get something big".
I would rather they just reduced the flat rate from 1k to 750 for th10 and a really slight decrease for th9.

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Originally Posted by Gama321

The whole point of next cost is to dis-incentivise nexting over raiding though, by reducing it as you next then it actually promotes further nexting the more you next as people would think "I am already getting the discounted rate, I should just carry on until I get something big".

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Right but the idea is that after a certain amount of sunk cost, I believe you've sort of earned the right to keep looking. I'd much rather they fix the causes for needing to next a lot in the first place, but that honestly doesn't seem likely.

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Originally Posted by Gama321

I would rather they just reduced the flat rate from 1k to 750 for th10 and a really slight decrease for th9.

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The problem with this is it doesn't really acknowledge deficiencies in the system which cause lots of nexting to occur in the first place. That's why I like the idea of higher costs at first, followed by lower ones. It's all about attempting to mitigate player frustration while acknowledging that the next cost serves a real purpose.

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Originally Posted by Gama321

I would rather they just reduced the flat rate from 1k to 750 for th10 and a really slight decrease for th9.

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I'd rather have the decreasing rate so that during periods of bad loot, nexting won't seem as bad, people will be able to reach those bigger loots, and loot will fluctuate a bit less

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Originally Posted by Sirix

I'd rather have the decreasing rate so that during periods of bad loot, nexting won't seem as bad, people will be able to reach those bigger loots, and loot will fluctuate a bit less

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Winner winner chicken dinner!

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Originally Posted by Spurs978

Most armies are more expensive than that at higher levels which is when you are doing more searching

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Exactly. If you spend 20k searching and say it as if everyone spends 20k, too, you are probably th7 at most, and 20k elixir would train less than 70 level 6 archers, and only 50 level 7 archers.

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Originally Posted by Galath

It's not really that big of a deal, you spend 20k elixir and 20k gold to find a base and earn 200k each, totally reasonable.

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I always raid with: 90 Barbs, 140 Arch, 5 WB = 91k elixir (without considering spells !!!) (+7 giants in cc) .
The time you spend in searching it`s not reasonable at all because i spend more than 10 min to find a good base and always more than 50k - 150k gold. I remember once i have spend 450k gold and i wrote a mail to supercell to let them know that i don`t agree with the raiding policy of the th10. I remember when i was th9 i got so much resources that i always waited days full for builders to finish. Now i can barely keep 3 out of 5 builders at work.

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Originally Posted by Skenderbeu

HELLO EVERYBODY,

It`s more than a year that i`m playing this game and now i have a th10 base nearly maxed.
I don`t agree with the raiding policy of the game that a th7 can easily get 200.000 gold/elixir instead a th10 around 2200 trophy crystal league 2 can barely get that with a 15 minutes search and loosing more than the half of what you loot at the end. Searching is VERY BORING and supercell must do smth about that.

I call you to vote to reduce 50% the Next Button cost for all TH LVL`s so at least you will only be bored until you find a nice base and don`t loose what you have gained.

Actual Cost:

Th LVL	Next Cost
1	10
2	50
3	75
4	110
5	170
6	250
7	380
8	580
9	750
10	1000

-50% Cost:

Th LVL	Next Cost
1	5
2	25
3	35
4	55
5	85
6	125
7	190
8	290
9	375
10	500

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Yes, will save everyone tonnes on searching. Therefore making better gold profit

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Originally Posted by dahimi

The big issue I have with the next cost is it increases substantially at higher TH levels, while overall ability to make loot drops. Building costs, troop costs, and the penalty are already heavily working against you. The next cost I feel is simply too much when stacked against the other disadvantages.

Personally I think next costs should decrease as next is hit more often. This would still force folks to have to think about whether or not a target is worth attacking or passing on, but after a certain point once you've sunk 200k into nexting, it can become very very frustrating and nothing about that is fun.

It also reflects the idea that the system is random and some time periods offer crappier raids than others, meaning that the average number of nexts might be higher before someone finds something they like.

I'm not sure what numbers would work best, but I'm thinking something like a 1% drop in cost per next until 50% of the start cost is reached.

So a TH10 hitting next would start at 1k, the next would be 990, the next 980. Eventually after hitting next 50 times, the cost would flat line at 500g.

Thus a TH10 who hits next 50 times would spend 40k instead of 50k. A TH10 who hits next 100 times would spend 65k instead of 100k. A TH10 who hits next 200 times would spend 115k instead of 200k.

I'm sure these numbers could be tweaked better, but they explain the overall concept.

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This would be very reasonable too. I like it , and yes ,it may be a possible solution and may be better than a fix sum. However, i personaly would prefer a fixed sum to spend Around -50%

I`m a th9 maxed and i find good bases but there are a lot of times where i sank -200k gold in nexting and that`s really frustrating. I also here my clanmates that are th10 complain about haw much it takes to find a good base and sometimes they really spend more than the loot they gain.

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Originally Posted by HerrickSpencer

When do you ever pay elixer to find a math?

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The troop training.

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Originally Posted by arieoreos

The troop training.

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Yes but when you raid with maxed troops you spend about 100k with a barb-arch not 20k! I thought also that he was intending that nexting was made with elixir.

I agree something should be done with next costs.

The higher hall you are, the more next costs. And yet, as a result of loot penalties the number of viable targets to attack are fewer. All it does it mean more nexts, and expensive ones at that been a higher hall.

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Originally Posted by mushy

Pointless.

Whats a maxed th10 doing in C2 and what great need is there for loot for a nearly maxed th10.

Loads of lòot bases are available in C2 and C1 for a th9 like me from rich th10s. I really dont know what you are talking about.

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Im talking about smth you will discover soon as soon as yll upgrate your th. it seems easy when you ar th9 you get a loot equal as a th10 and uprates costs less you spend also less in nexting gold/time. Crystal 2 around 2300 trphy is the best zone to raid as a th10 you also will learn that soon. I never let e builder 1 sec free untill th10 so don't speak with such competence.

Just checking! I'm surprised that this poll sill don't get the attention it deserves!

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Originally Posted by boss1986

Just checking! I'm surprised that this poll sill don't get the attention it deserves!

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Thank you! continue to support this thread in order do get more and more votes...

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Originally Posted by daz258

I agree something should be done with next costs.

The higher hall you are, the more next costs. And yet, as a result of loot penalties the number of viable targets to attack are fewer. All it does it mean more nexts, and expensive ones at that been a higher hall.

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Thank You for supporting!!

I prefer a reduction more than 50%. It`s really frustrating loosing a lot of time and your gold too. Smth must be done with the nexting cost as soon as possible!

I think the problem only lies for th 8, 9 and 10. In fact, the cost is too low for low and mid level town halls.
How about a rescale instead? In my opinion, the increase in cost of the "next" button should be based on the combat ability. So how about rescaling based on the unlocks of the troops and army camp?

For the example below, the cost increases by 50 gold as the town hall level increases and there is a jump in cost at townhall 5 and 7 of 150 gold as an army camp is unlocked at these levels.
This should be quite fair as most of us should've realised by now that an additional army camp means a great increase in raiding power.

Actual Cost:

Th LVL	Next Cost
1	10
2	50
3	75
4	110
5	170
6	250
7	380
8	580
9	750
10	1000

Rescaled Cost:

Th LVL	Next Cost
1	10
2	60
3	110
4	160
5	310
6	360
7	510
8	560
9	610
10	660

NO gold for next button!

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Originally Posted by Mythness

NO gold for next button!

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agree!! hahahha a reduction is a good start. I don't want to pay. We pay the time we spend searching and that's enough

Liking Dahimi's idea of incrementally reduced cost (up to 50%).
I've recently upgraded to th9 and am finding it (occasionally) brutal (spending upwards of 100k to find a base and having to settle for a 90k th7 collector is depressing).

Poor th10s. It's just another extra turnoff to go for th10.
For people begging for th11, that ain't happening anytime soon with the current lack of incentives to upgrade,

We should Make a petition to reduce the cost of nexting

I completely agree. I am a th 8 currently farming in the gold 3 silver 1 range. I average 200k gold and 200k elixer per raid. But because full collector raids aren't too common, I spend around 50k looking for them, or 5 minutes worth of nexting at times. Yes, I am aware that I still make a HUGE profit, but then when I go up to crystal -_-. That next button cost kills you.

The he only thing I don't agree with is the 50% reduce, I would say maybe 25% would be good.

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Originally Posted by Valkyr3003

Liking Dahimi's idea of incrementally reduced cost (up to 50%).
I've recently upgraded to th9 and am finding it (occasionally) brutal (spending upwards of 100k to find a base and having to settle for a 90k th7 collector is depressing).

Poor th10s. It's just another extra turnoff to go for th10.
For people begging for th11, that ain't happening anytime soon with the current lack of incentives to upgrade,

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until th9 i didn`t have any problem, although it gets tought it`s nothing compared to th10.

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Originally Posted by Shaddowknight942

We should Make a petition to reduce the cost of nexting

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The poll is a kind of petition. The more votes and comments the thread gets the more the chances are that coc will consider this.

to be honest if u are finding no loot u are at the wrong cup range and u should stop searching. rather than implementing this into the game it would be better just to make loot better in general... such as, if u steal 300k from a th8 they only lose 150k... this would make sense because knowone is left unhappy. pls comment if u agree with this suggestion and comment it elsewhere. thank you for reading!

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Originally Posted by Hardcorefarmz

to be honest if u are finding no loot u are at the wrong cup range and u should stop searching. rather than implementing this into the game it would be better just to make loot better in general... such as, if u steal 300k from a th8 they only lose 150k... this would make sense because knowone is left unhappy. pls comment if u agree with this suggestion and comment it elsewhere. thank you for reading!

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I don't agree. Im th10 and i farm in crystal2 around 2300 trophy ( that in my experience is the best zone to raid as a th10) but the problem is that you must serarch a lot and loose a lot of gold as conseguence. More loot is a kind a solution but that would make the game very easy. I don't like to spend gold nexting because it gives me the feeling of a slot machine. Reduce the next button cost is a far more reasonable request than changing loot system

I have never paid any attention to the cost of the next button and I don't think I've ever spent 200k hitting next. At TH9 that would be 266 bases, and out of that many there's got to be at least one that has raidable resources.

Yes I also hope they will reduce the next button cost because
attacking is already very expensive and it's not easy to find an enemy
you want to attack.
In average I click about 50 times to find an enemy, this equals 37.5k gold lol.
And I still enjoy being TH 9, if I was Th 10 I'd have to pay 50k (probably more
because it's even harder to find a good enemy).

What's more walls and other stuff are already too over-priced,
so don't make our life harder with the next button and reduce the price :D

5 Stars Topic!

sometiimes loot becomes really dry, have to next a lot to find out. and when i finally found a 100k gold, thats excactly what i spend on nexting:mad:. so ZERO profit. but this is rarely the case.

would be nice for lootless th 10s, but i agree coùz im becoming th10 someday.

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Originally Posted by DUi256

I have never paid any attention to the cost of the next button and I don't think I've ever spent 200k hitting next. At TH9 that would be 266 bases, and out of that many there's got to be at least one that has raidable resources.

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You will notice te difference soon. When you pass th10 you find less loot and you loose more gold in nextig

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Originally Posted by antimatter

sometiimes loot becomes really dry, have to next a lot to find out. and when i finally found a 100k gold, thats excactly what i spend on nexting:mad:. so ZERO profit. but this is rarely the case.

would be nice for lootless th 10s, but i agree coùz im becoming th10 someday.

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Of course I would want a reduction in next button costs. What COC player would not. I do think we are being ripped off because of how it adds up because they have done things that result in us having to press it a lot more times.

However, I think that despite how we as players feel about it that the way it is now is desirable to SC and their one vote overrides all of ours combined.

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Originally Posted by rwelshjr

Of course I would want a reduction in next button costs. What COC player would not. I do think we are being ripped off because of how it adds up because they have done things that result in us having to press it a lot more times.

However, I think that despite how we as players feel about it that the way it is now is desirable to SC and their one vote overrides all of ours combined.

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I think that they as a company are very near their clients (us), thay listen a lot and are improving the game every year. However, every year is not enough ireasonable time. I think that they must act more promptly to some important requests ( heros in cw for example) . I see a lot of people quiting every day because they get tired of searching to much ore trying to balance troops in baracs get nervous for the chat inability to correct what you have written..... And a lot of other things

How did you find out the next cost for th1?

Just wondering how you got the cost for a th 1 seeing that the game makes you upgrade your th to level 2 before you can attack anyone.

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Originally Posted by Skenderbeu

I think that they as a company are very near their clients (us), thay listen a lot and are improving the game every year. However, every year is not enough ireasonable time. I think that they must act more promptly to some important requests ( heros in cw for example) . I see a lot of people quiting every day because they get tired of searching to much ore trying to balance troops in baracs get nervous for the chat inability to correct what you have written..... And a lot of other things

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The fact is they have more joining than leaving so that's kind of an empty point. Go ahead and quit on them yourself if you feel strongly enough to make your statement. I already said I agree with you so you got my vote. But SCs vote might be different because making money is their higher priority and you have nothing else to threaten them with.

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How did you find out the next cost for th1?

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Oh god you just make me laugh so hard.

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Originally Posted by NF2335

How did you find out the next cost for th1?

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Coc wiki of course!!!!! http://clashofclans.wikia.com/wiki/Raids

I agree the cost is too high, especially for th 9 and 10. 50% might be too much to ask. Instead I would suggest about 30% reduction.

At th7 and th8, the nexting cost seemed really expensive. I am not sure if I got better at raiding or if loot is just easier to get at th9, but I have found that it isn't impacting me at th9 as much as I thought it would. I am guessing that it will start to hurt again at th10, though if I am surprised again, that would be nice.

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Originally Posted by L0STxxB34ST

Just wondering how you got the cost for a th 1 seeing that the game makes you upgrade your th to level 2 before you can attack anyone.

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COC WIKI!! http://clashofclans.wikia.com/wiki/Raids

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Originally Posted by herranton

At th7 and th8, the nexting cost seemed really expensive. I am not sure if I got better at raiding or if loot is just easier to get at th9, but I have found that it isn't impacting me at th9 as much as I thought it would. I am guessing that it will start to hurt again at th10, though if I am surprised again, that would be nice.

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when th10 what impact the most is that you search more and you spend 1000 gold. When you will upgrade you will notice the difference.

TH10 realy has impact.

sometimes 100 villages is necessary to find a simple 150k loot.
that way you just got 50k for a 100%.

I agree that search cost in th9 and th10 has to be decreased.

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Originally Posted by Att

TH10 realy has impact.

sometimes 100 villages is necessary to find a simple 150k loot.
that way you just got 50k for a 100%.

I agree that search cost in th9 and th10 has to be decreased.

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I disagree. The cost doesn't need to be reduced, the number of available "worth attacking" targets needs to be increased. I would be ok with the next cost being more expensive if I didn't have to waste 20 minutes of my life trying to find a victim with enough loot to cover my army cost. The problem is the available loot.

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Originally Posted by iceageg

I disagree. The cost doesn't need to be reduced, the number of available "worth attacking" targets needs to be increased. I would be ok with the next cost being more expensive if I didn't have to waste 20 minutes of my life trying to find a victim with enough loot to cover my army cost. The problem is the available loot.

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Yes but that can not be fixed easily. I agree with you when you say : "I would be ok with the next cost being more expensive if I didn't have to waste 20 minutes of my life trying to find a victim with enough loot to cover my army cost." but the loot system changed in the last update and didn't improve so much. I have lost 400k one day nexting and in average i push next more than 50 times per raid. What seem logical is that as i`m constricted to loose time at least i shouldn't go broke!!!!

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Originally Posted by Att

TH10 realy has impact.

sometimes 100 villages is necessary to find a simple 150k loot.
that way you just got 50k for a 100%.

I agree that search cost in th9 and th10 has to be decreased.

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Totally agree!

The poll is going really well! You should have posted it as e petition.

Go, go, go Write a comment also with your experience in raiding...

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Originally Posted by Skenderbeu

Yes but that can not be fixed easily. I agree with you when you say : "I would be ok with the next cost being more expensive if I didn't have to waste 20 minutes of my life trying to find a victim with enough loot to cover my army cost." but the loot system changed in the last update and didn't improve so much. I have lost 400k one day nexting and in average i push next more than 50 times per raid. What seem logical is that as i`m constricted to loose time at least i shouldn't go broke!!!!

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Even if it is more work, it is usually more effective to fix the problem than cover up the symptom. Next costs don't matter if there are enough villages worth raiding. More available loot solves this issue and others at the same time.

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Originally Posted by iceageg

Even if it is more work, it is usually more effective to fix the problem than cover up the symptom. Next costs don't matter if there are enough villages worth raiding. More available loot solves this issue and others at the same time.

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Yes but that is not a problem or bug. They can not resolve it because thats normal. A resolution to what u propose is a filter of resources but it could impact the trophy classification in different ways. I'm sure the costs are a problem that could balance the problem and a -50% is reasonable

I love the idea of having different costs for th lvls but I think Supercell wants us to skip bases less often...

thats why you shoudn't TH rush

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Originally Posted by dikasaja

thats why you shoudn't TH rush

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Im lv 130 nearly maxed! I dont need lessons but personal experiences about the theme!

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Originally Posted by iceageg

I disagree. The cost doesn't need to be reduced, the number of available "worth attacking" targets needs to be increased. I would be ok with the next cost being more expensive if I didn't have to waste 20 minutes of my life trying to find a victim with enough loot to cover my army cost. The problem is the available loot.

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I don`t agree! Changing the loot system again means adding more loot means to make the life so easy that the game would loose all its pleasure! A possible solution it could be to automatically filter resources but that also compromises the trophy league! The best solution is reduce the next button cost for me too.

Yes i want the cost reduced 50%!

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Originally Posted by DenisMessia

Yes i want the cost reduced 50%!

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Thank you! You have alredy voted once?

i spend a lot of gold when farm and this will make the game more exciting

The real problem is that too many bases are under shields.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

The big issue I have with the next cost is it increases substantially at higher TH levels, while overall ability to make loot drops. Building costs, troop costs, and the penalty are already heavily working against you. The next cost I feel is simply too much when stacked against the other disadvantages.

Personally I think next costs should decrease as next is hit more often. This would still force folks to have to think about whether or not a target is worth attacking or passing on, but after a certain point once you've sunk 200k into nexting, it can become very very frustrating and nothing about that is fun.

It also reflects the idea that the system is random and some time periods offer crappier raids than others, meaning that the average number of nexts might be higher before someone finds something they like.

I'm not sure what numbers would work best, but I'm thinking something like a 1% drop in cost per next until 50% of the start cost is reached.

So a TH10 hitting next would start at 1k, the next would be 990, the next 980. Eventually after hitting next 50 times, the cost would flat line at 500g.

Thus a TH10 who hits next 50 times would spend 40k instead of 50k. A TH10 who hits next 100 times would spend 65k instead of 100k. A TH10 who hits next 200 times would spend 115k instead of 200k.

I'm sure these numbers could be tweaked better, but they explain the overall concept.

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This is reasonable. I like the idea. I think this should be implemented.

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Originally Posted by 12lthLvLIntellect

This is reasonable. I like the idea. I think this should be implemented.

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Thats e a very good idea. I think that would be a solution too. However im for a reduction of 50%.

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Originally Posted by DeepFriedBanana

I love the idea of having different costs for th lvls but I think Supercell wants us to skip bases less often...

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Yes thats a big proplem that is related to the loot system. At least we should not go broke by nexting.

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Originally Posted by iceageg

I disagree. The cost doesn't need to be reduced, the number of available "worth attacking" targets needs to be increased. I would be ok with the next cost being more expensive if I didn't have to waste 20 minutes of my life trying to find a victim with enough loot to cover my army cost. The problem is the available loot.

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Originally Posted by Skenderbeu

Yes but that can not be fixed easily. I agree with you when you say : "I would be ok with the next cost being more expensive if I didn't have to waste 20 minutes of my life trying to find a victim with enough loot to cover my army cost." but the loot system changed in the last update and didn't improve so much. I have lost 400k one day nexting and in average i push next more than 50 times per raid. What seem logical is that as i`m constricted to loose time at least i shouldn't go broke!!!!

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What he is saying is that this does not fix the problem you're having. So you're going to be able to Next twice as long at the same cost? Ok, everyone will just start doing that in order to find the most profitable bases, then those go out of the queue. So now you need to Next even longer. Simply reducing the Nexting cost for all levels by the same percentage will only end up making everyone spend more time Nexting. It may or may not have a net benefit in the form of less gold spent over your raids, but do you really want to spend the extra time Nexting?

Making it so that more profitable, attractive bases show up more often will lead to less Nexting, therefore making the reduced Nexting cost unnecessary.

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Originally Posted by George1971

The real problem is that too many bases are under shields.

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This.

And not just that they're under shields, but the rapid rate at which they got there, and how much loot they lost in the process: almost none. Fix the league bonus system, and you fix the Nexting problem.

1-star: % of league bonus rewarded based on percentage of destruction done
2-star: 100% league bonus rewarded
3-star: multplier on league bonus rewarded

Increase league bonuses again, under these conditions, and apply a penalty to the 3-star multiplier similarly to how the loot penalty works, by TH disparity.

Supercell implements this and I promise that all problems directly or indirectly related to the Nexting issue get resolved.

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Originally Posted by Goobers

This.

And not just that they're under shields, but the rapid rate at which they got there, and how much loot they lost in the process: almost none. Fix the league bonus system, and you fix the Nexting problem.

1-star: % of league bonus rewarded based on percentage of destruction done
2-star: 100% league bonus rewarded
3-star: multplier on league bonus rewarded

Increase league bonuses again, under these conditions, and apply a penalty to the 3-star multiplier similarly to how the loot penalty works, by TH disparity.

Supercell implements this and I promise that all problems directly or indirectly related to the Nexting issue get resolved.

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Like this guy's idea but bit too bold of a promise. I don't think next should be reduced.

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Originally Posted by B4E

Like this guy's idea but bit too bold of a promise. I don't think next should be reduced.

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Not my idea, and the promise is not bold at all, it's exactly what will happen. Unless you're talking about it literally being bold ;)

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Originally Posted by Goobers

Not my idea, and the promise is not bold at all, it's exactly what will happen. Unless you're talking about it literally being bold ;)

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You are saying that if they resolve the loot system that would resolve the nexting time problem as consequence. I think that it don`t take to much to say 1+1=2. The problem is that for supercell meas to disturb all the balances. I also don`t thing that reducing nexting cost would increase nexting time because that`s facultative. there are players who wait until a good base arrive there are those who attack a medium loot base.

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Originally Posted by Skenderbeu

You are saying that if they resolve the loot system that would resolve the nexting time problem as consequence. I think that it don`t take to much to say 1+1=2. The problem is that for supercell meas to disturb all the balances. I also don`t thing that reducing nexting cost would increase nexting time because that`s facultative. there are players who wait until a good base arrive there are those who attack a medium loot base.

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Simply reducing the Nexting cost does essentially nothing towards finding more attractive bases to hit. It makes the player who is raiding able to retain more gold per Next, but what s/he is finding with each Next isn't improved. The insane amount of Nexting has caused many people to stop raiding/farming in general. Yes, this will alleviate the gold burden if a person would find a decent base after 50 Nexts, 100 Nexts, as it halves the cost.

But the problem isn't that there are all these bases that are brimming with resources, but they take some magical 100-150 Nexting threshold before they start showing up. They are hidden under shields; the good bases are incredibly rare regardless of how often you're Nexting. So why try to address a problem where the solution will lead to more time spent Nexting? Even if the net cost isn't as bad, there is a solution that puts more bases out into the queue for more players to hit. Thus, less Nexting needed as the frequency of these bases increases significantly.

There are players who attack medium loot bases. I am currently one of them.
There are players who wait until a good base arrives, but only to an extent. I am (was) also one of them.

I had to temper expectations/adapt when they introduced updates that made those high loot bases so rare that they didn't justify the time and gold cost searching for them, so I dropped my target limits. This certainly didn't cause me to Next less, though. I had to Next about the same amount of time, or longer, to get less loot. Supercell's updates have caused this, and if they simply halved Nexting costs, you'd see the (already rare) high loot storage bases dry up. The only difference is that players will be spending even more time (but not necessarily more gold) Nexting to get them. You can only put players through that repetitive click and search grind so long before the allure of the game is no longer there for them.

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Originally Posted by Goobers

Simply reducing the Nexting cost does essentially nothing towards finding more attractive bases to hit. It makes the player who is raiding able to retain more gold per Next, but what s/he is finding with each Next isn't improved. The insane amount of Nexting has caused many people to stop raiding/farming in general. Yes, this will alleviate the gold burden if a person would find a decent base after 50 Nexts, 100 Nexts, as it halves the cost.

But the problem isn't that there are all these bases that are brimming with resources, but they take some magical 100-150 Nexting threshold before they start showing up. They are hidden under shields; the good bases are incredibly rare regardless of how often you're Nexting. So why try to address a problem where the solution will lead to more time spent Nexting? Even if the net cost isn't as bad, there is a solution that puts more bases out into the queue for more players to hit. Thus, less Nexting needed as the frequency of these bases increases significantly.

There are players who attack medium loot bases. I am currently one of them.
There are players who wait until a good base arrives, but only to an extent. I am (was) also one of them.

I had to temper expectations/adapt when they introduced updates that made those high loot bases so rare that they didn't justify the time and gold cost searching for them, so I dropped my target limits. This certainly didn't cause me to Next less, though. I had to Next about the same amount of time, or longer, to get less loot. Supercell's updates have caused this, and if they simply halved Nexting costs, you'd see the (already rare) high loot storage bases dry up. The only difference is that players will be spending even more time (but not necessarily more gold) Nexting to get them. You can only put players through that repetitive click and search grind so long before the allure of the game is no longer there for them.

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Totally agree with all you say. I have the same opinion exept the part when you say that reducing the cost would not help. The time problem for supercell is money and they won't do that beacause its due to that they make profit because peopele by gems. Its very easy for them to change the system and in a second BELLA VITA all the players, but they won't never do that. In my opinon also the amount of your daily raid is controlled because i have noticed than when i dont play to much the game give me 300k loot easly on the other hand when i play sistematicly is the opposite. I notice that makeing you first million of the day is simple but after it takes so much time to earn more and you get stucked around that sum of loot.

Vote time !! :))

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Originally Posted by Skenderbeu

Totally agree with all you say. I have the same opinion exept the part when you say that reducing the cost would not help. The time problem for supercell is money and they won't do that beacause its due to that they make profit because peopele by gems. Its very easy for them to change the system and in a second BELLA VITA all the players, but they won't never do that. In my opinon also the amount of your daily raid is controlled because i have noticed than when i dont play to much the game give me 300k loot easly on the other hand when i play sistematicly is the opposite. I notice that makeing you first million of the day is simple but after it takes so much time to earn more and you get stucked around that sum of loot.

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I think I see what you're saying; reforming the system will lead to less time required to find decent bases, which could very well lead to less money for Supercell. But this actually provides more incentive for players to purchase gems for other reasons (boosting barracks/spell factory for using slightly to significantly more time-expensive army combinations. This system wouldn't turn farming on easy mode, it would just allow for the ability to farm more per raid/hour given the farmer has more skilled attacks than, say, TH snipes.

This would do wonders in keeping low THs out of Masters/Champs where they don't belong, provide more of those high loot bases with exposed THs to remain in the queue a bit longer (to be hit by players with suitable armies for them), encourage players to actually raid/pillage a base when farming vs performing frequent high league "TH-snipe and surrender" attacks, and all these things help alleviate that massive headache that high THs face, which is the endless Nexting problem.

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Originally Posted by Skenderbeu

HELLO EVERYBODY,

Think for a moment when you have been searching for about 15 minutes and after a certain point you've sunk 200k into nexting, it can become very very frustrating and nothing about that is fun.

The big issue I have with the next cost is it increases substantially at higher TH levels, while overall ability to make loot drops. Building costs, troop costs, and the penalty are already heavily working against you. The next cost I feel is simply too much when stacked against the other disadvantages.

Personally i get very bored while farming, nexting for an exaggerated time, and I believe that if you hit next a lot of times maybe you shouldn't go broke doing it by loosing sometimes more gold than what you will gain....

Please VOTE and COMMENT to bring this thread under the attention of Supercell!
If you don`t know what to write please just Reply to Thread copy/paste: Yes i want the cost reduced 50%!


Actual Cost:

Th LVL	Next Cost
1	10
2	50
3	75
4	110
5	170
6	250
7	380
8	580
9	750
10	1000

-50% Cost:

Th LVL	Next Cost
1	5
2	25
3	35
4	55
5	85
6	125
7	190
8	290
9	375
10	500

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The thread aims to make Supercell reconsider the next button cost (it can be more or less then 50%).
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I think this is a good idea. at lower lvl or even starting out searching can eat up all the loot you have. and this has no effect on people that are maxed out lvl 10 THs but who cares, they are not attacking for loot, they are going for trophies so keep them out of this topic. I don't know how many times ill just get enough to upgrade my building or something then I want to go attack, and I can only search like 10 times and the 10 searches I get are completely not worth it or no loot to really take. not if the loot was 50-75% lets that can mean an extra 5-10 searches. in the end its not much loot when u have a lot, but if u search a lot to find the right base it can cost a lot.

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Originally Posted by Adelima19

I think this is a good idea. at lower lvl or even starting out searching can eat up all the loot you have. and this has no effect on people that are maxed out lvl 10 THs but who cares, they are not attacking for loot, they are going for trophies so keep them out of this topic. I don't know how many times ill just get enough to upgrade my building or something then I want to go attack, and I can only search like 10 times and the 10 searches I get are completely not worth it or no loot to really take. not if the loot was 50-75% lets that can mean an extra 5-10 searches. in the end its not much loot when u have a lot, but if u search a lot to find the right base it can cost a lot.

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When starting out, searching eats up all your gold, but it doesn't have any effect at TH10?
TH10 are only going for trophies?
Only being able to have enough to search 10 bases as a low level?

Not one thing said here is remotely close to accurate, lol.

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Originally Posted by Goobers

I think I see what you're saying; reforming the system will lead to less time required to find decent bases, which could very well lead to less money for Supercell. But this actually provides more incentive for players to purchase gems for other reasons (boosting barracks/spell factory for using slightly to significantly more time-expensive army combinations. This system wouldn't turn farming on easy mode, it would just allow for the ability to farm more per raid/hour given the farmer has more skilled attacks than, say, TH snipes.

This would do wonders in keeping low THs out of Masters/Champs where they don't belong, provide more of those high loot bases with exposed THs to remain in the queue a bit longer (to be hit by players with suitable armies for them), encourage players to actually raid/pillage a base when farming vs performing frequent high league "TH-snipe and surrender" attacks, and all these things help alleviate that massive headache that high THs face, which is the endless Nexting problem.

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You speak as you are part of supercell staff and you know that it would for sure be as you think. in my opinion the thread is very reasonable and i don`t think what you are proposing will be done.

15 minutes???? What are u doing man???! The cost is totally ok.

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Originally Posted by mrkw

15 minutes???? What are u doing man???! The cost is totally ok.

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you must be a th7!! Judging from what you say!

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Originally Posted by boss1986

You speak as you are part of supercell staff and you know that it would for sure be as you think. in my opinion the thread is very reasonable and i don`t think what you are proposing will be done.

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No, if I were speaking as part of the supercell staff/developers I would be speaking in circles and never providing any logic to the updates that roll out. It humors me that you think the supercell staff are these infallible people who definitely understand consequences of changes they make, when they've shown time and again that they clearly don't given the updates that we've received.

Actually, I'm speaking as someone who has extensive knowledge in economic behavior, and as this game follows those same patterns, these causes/effects are incredibly easy to predict and I (and others) have done so in the past regarding some hair-brained updates they've rolled out. Sure enough, exactly what we said would happen... happened.

Do I need a cartoonishly giant laminated badge that has the words "SUPER-DOOPER-Cell Staff!" scribbled on it with crayon for you to start blindly believing everything I say?

Hello gays i want to se also the comments of your po and cons so please feel free to coment!!

I think that all negative votes are th8 and down. Also a th9 don`t understand the big difference you have when you pass to th10

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Originally Posted by DenisMessia

I think that all negative votes are th8 and down. Also a th9 don`t understand the big difference you have when you pass to th10

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Probably yes because they don`t care for the moment but i just lost 200 k now

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Originally Posted by mrkw

15 minutes???? What are u doing man???! The cost is totally ok.

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What th are you?

Good morning europe! Time to vote. Thank you

[QUOTE=Skenderbeu;3997689]What th are you?[/QUOTNW you can say good morning hong kong. Or are you at sleep! Hahahah

id also like to see more of the 1gem boosts as it helps the higher lvl players and it helps the lowers to reach higher lvls at a faster rate and can also make ppl want to spend the money on gems

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Originally Posted by mbar9607

id also like to see more of the 1gem boosts as it helps the higher lvl players and it helps the lowers to reach higher lvls at a faster rate and can also make ppl want to spend the money on gems

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Who doesn`t like a 1 gem boost lol!!

Time to vote !!!!

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Originally Posted by Goobers

No, if I were speaking as part of the supercell staff/developers I would be speaking in circles and never providing any logic to the updates that roll out. It humors me that you think the supercell staff are these infallible people who definitely understand consequences of changes they make, when they've shown time and again that they clearly don't given the updates that we've received.

Actually, I'm speaking as someone who has extensive knowledge in economic behavior, and as this game follows those same patterns, these causes/effects are incredibly easy to predict and I (and others) have done so in the past regarding some hair-brained updates they've rolled out. Sure enough, exactly what we said would happen... happened.

Do I need a cartoonishly giant laminated badge that has the words "SUPER-DOOPER-Cell Staff!" scribbled on it with crayon for you to start blindly believing everything I say?

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You defend your ideas very well but i still dont agree

Time to vote!

Time to vote!

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