War Chief, War note, and War claims

Ok so fair warning I don't have pretty pictures. These ideas together, I feel, can improve the war experience.


New clan title:
War Chief - Unable to start wars, allowed a clan mail every 6 hours, unable to kick without cool down, can not be kicked by co and can not kick elders, can create/edit/delete war notes and war claims, can start wars.
This title will appear after the elder title is given. The options will be promote to co leader, promote to war chief, demote to member.


War notes:
Each base that is given a war note will display an icon; when clicked a small message will appear with the information, strategy, whatever the war chief or leader wrote. This is to help all clan mates with specific war advice without having to catch them online.


War claims:
War notes will contain a small section to write 2 names in addition to the space for the war note. Again to better organize a clan without having to be online at that moment.


Example of war note:
This base is easy for an air raid, use hogs to lure from the right and send in your army from the top
Claims: player A, player B


Reason for a dual claim:
This is to have a designated back up attack if needed. The war claim does not force a player into only that target.


Reason for the new title:
This is to better organize wars without having to give a player co leader power. They do not have the ability to kick non members, nor write clan descriptions.


Reason for the 6 hour clan mail cool down:
As we all know it can be frustrating having to wait hours to send a message during war. This is to increase helpful war advice and/or war motivational speeches, without paving the road for spam.


Other things to note:
This does not change leader/co leader message cooldown.
Only a leader can promote/demote a war chief.
Co leaders can not edit war notes/claims.
Although we may already do these things outside of the game, not all clans/players do, and this is a way to help everyone out.
Yes, Swan's war chief

Yes these ideas may not be "urgent" but i do feel the three together would make for a much better war experience. Only bump im going to do, if this doesnt get a response from BB, im going to start a thread asking for a lightning rod :rolleyes:

Pretty sure new clan titles are ruled out

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Originally Posted by prancingpony

Pretty sure new clan titles are ruled out

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if youre going to try to be "helpful" i do suggest you read the stickie yourself I have read it about 4 times before posting and its quite a bit so i could have missed it, but checked yet again, nope none of these are on that list, tho clan titles are one of the semi common requests this is not a clan titles thread.


i sincerely hope IFR can get on track by ignoring the need to spam ruled out threads as ruled out and actually focus on the ones that arent on the stickie.

I like this idea.:)

Intriguing idea! Nice to read a new original idea on here. I'm all for enhancing the war experience!

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Originally Posted by Ataraxia

I like this idea.:)

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Originally Posted by k2aries

Intriguing idea! Nice to read a new original idea on here. I'm all for enhancing the war experience!

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Thanks guys glad you like it :cool:

Still hoping for a battle born seal of approval haha

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

Ok so fair warning I don't have pretty pictures. These ideas together, I feel, can improve the war experience.


New clan title:
War Chief - able to start wars, allowed a clan mail every 6 hours, unable to kick without cool down, can not be kicked by co and can not kick elders, can create/edit/delete war notes and war claims, can start wars.
This title will appear after the elder title is given. The options will be promote to co leader, promote to war chief, demote to member.


War notes:
Each base that is given a war note will display an icon; when clicked a small message will appear with the information, strategy, whatever the war chief or leader wrote. This is to help all clan mates with specific war advice without having to catch them online.


War claims:
War notes will contain a small section to write 2 names in addition to the space for the war note. Again to better organize a clan without having to be online at that moment.


Example of war note:
This base is easy for an air raid, use hogs to lure from the right and send in your army from the top
Claims: player A, player B


Reason for a dual claim:
This is to have a designated back up attack if needed. The war claim does not force a player into only that target.


Reason for the new title:
This is to better organize wars without having to give a player co leader power. They do not have the ability to kick non members, nor write clan descriptions.


Reason for the 6 hour clan mail cool down:
As we all know it can be frustrating having to wait hours to send a message during war. This is to increase helpful war advice and/or war motivational speeches, without paving the road for spam.


Other things to note:
This does not change leader/co leader message cooldown.
Only a leader can promote/demote a war chief.
Co leaders can not edit war notes/claims.
Although we may already do these things outside of the game, not all clans/players do, and this is a way to help everyone out.
Yes, Swan's war chief

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I was thinking of posting a thread for war notes myself and as I searched to see whether I will repeat a already exist thread or will it be new I got this one. Although my idea was just about the war note thing, the other two are good ideas too. Boom beach already have base notes so I think SC can add war notes in clash too without much problems. Although war chiefs starting war can be arguable but reducing the clan mail cools down for war chief should be allowed only during war time. Our clan do use this war chief thing to make someone war chief for each war and let him organise the war attacks although that is just an hypothetical position for a particular war but actually implementing a new clan title will help.

In the end I want to say that whether SC adds this new clan title or not is not that much of a concern for me but the other two ideas are really great and should be added soon.

Nice idea! Would be helpful.

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Originally Posted by Aayush1996

I was thinking of posting a thread for war notes myself and as I searched to see whether I will repeat a already exist thread or will it be new I got this one. Although my idea was just about the war note thing, the other two are good ideas too. Boom beach already have base notes so I think SC can add war notes in clash too without much problems. Although war chiefs starting war can be arguable but reducing the clan mail cools down for war chief should be allowed only during war time. Our clan do use this war chief thing to make someone war chief for each war and let him organise the war attacks although that is just an hypothetical position for a particular war but actually implementing a new clan title will help.

In the end I want to say that whether SC adds this new clan title or not is not that much of a concern for me but the other two ideas are really great and should be added soon.

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The war notes to me is the main part of this, you can easily tag on the claims part with it as ive suggested. The war chief position is something i see being utilized best by non stop war clans, hence why i feel a permanent 6 hour clan mail cooldown is best. Not to mention it makes it easier to implement instead of having to split the position into two settings (during war, not during war). I was also iffy on the war chiefs being able to start war, could use others feedback on this.

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Originally Posted by Waluigi4Mvp

Nice idea! Would be helpful.

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Thanks, glad you think so :D

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

Yes these ideas may not be "urgent" but i do feel the three together would make for a much better war experience. Only bump im going to do, if this doesnt get a response from BB, im going to start a thread asking for a lightning rod :rolleyes:

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This is a great idea. I'm for anything that has more positions. I used to have a thread about that, though i think it is too old for me to bump it.

Here's my comments on your thread.
War cheif:
I don't agree with the message cool down being 6 hours for the war cheif. The leaders is 12 hours if I'm not mistaken. I think co's should be able to kick them unlike what you said since it's a huge responsibility to be in charge of war and they may start one when no one is ready. I think it's a whole lot easier to just designate a co leader todo this personally. Safer, less of a hassle
War Notes:
Basically the same as clan mail
Example of war notes:
Again clan Mail could be helpful but to
send out a detailed message I would use the chat or other chat devices and assign bases rather than implementing something thatll clash with a feature already existing.
Reason for new title:
I think starting wars is a HUGE responsibility that only someone trusted should have. I don't see the point of giving someone 1/4 to 1/2 the power of a clan but treat them as an elder.
start a war and leave. Your trusted coleaders likely wouldn't. So again, I think designating jobs is easier and less of a hassle.

Reason for 6 hour clan mail:
For someone who's not a leader or a co they currently get a lot of special ability. 6 hour clan mail actually opens up to spam.
Other things to note:
Your idea on messages makes no sense since the leader has 6 hour longer cool down when he owns and runs the clan.
Like i said before: they should be demoted by co's.
Wemt over war notes.
Yeah if they don't do the things their expected to
then they need to kick rocks.

Summary: I disagree with all of your idea.
1. Why give power to someone your co's have. That's like making a new title that can only
invite. Ruins the idea of elder basically.
2. Notes; I rambled enough and don't need to
explain much more.
3. A new title when my co can do all of this and more. Rather pointless. You can assign someone this job and you don't have to make a title to do that.
4. Can't be demoted by co's? Well what happens when your leader goes on vacation? And your war cheif runs wars for loot. What do you do then? Can't demote him. He has little power but yet he has so much more than you think.

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

Thanks guys glad you like it :cool:

Still hoping for a battle born seal of approval haha

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You won't get it as I myself being a member of the BBSOA don't think it deserves battle borns seal of approval.

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Originally Posted by SpiderPig

This is a great idea. I'm for anything that has more positions. I used to have a thread about that, though i think it is too old for me to bump it.

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Thanks

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Originally Posted by GanjaSandwich

Here's my comments on your thread.
War cheif:
I don't agree with the message cool down being 6 hours for the war cheif. The leaders is 12 hours if I'm not mistaken. I think co's should be able to kick them unlike what you said since it's a huge responsibility to be in charge of war and they may start one when no one is ready. I think it's a whole lot easier to just designate a co leader todo this personally. Safer, less of a hassle (alright wasnt too sure on war chief starting wars, makes sense too much power. The idea though is not every co needs this power, its not safer as cos already do some dumb things)
War Notes:
Basically the same as clan mail (no not even close, if you play boom beach its the same as operation notes)
Example of war notes:
Again clan Mail could be helpful but to
send out a detailed message I would use the chat or other chat devices and assign bases rather than implementing something thatll clash with a feature already existing. (The percentage of players using outside apps for wars is actually not that much believe it or not. You cant get 20+ strategies in 1 clan mail.)
Reason for new title:
I think starting wars is a HUGE responsibility that only someone trusted should have. I don't see the point of giving someone 1/4 to 1/2 the power of a clan but treat them as an elder. (Right you are sir, am seeing that now, thanks for the feedback )
start a war and leave. Your trusted coleaders likely wouldn't. So again, I think designating jobs is easier and less of a hassle.


Reason for 6 hour clan mail:
For someone who's not a leader or a co they currently get a lot of special ability. 6 hour clan mail actually opens up to spam. (Its a special position just like co, you dont give this out to just anyone.)
Other things to note:
Your idea on messages makes no sense since the leader has 6 hour longer cool down when he owns and runs the clan. (War chief is decided for the very reason of organizing war, leaders actually tend to not be this person for various reasons)
Like i said before: they should be demoted by co's. (Not too sure on this one, i feel a co and a war chief are both respected members of the group, and should be chosen based on past actions)
Wemt over war notes.
Yeah if they don't do the things their expected to
then they need to kick rocks.


Summary: I disagree with all of your idea.
1. Why give power to someone your co's have. That's like making a new title that can only
invite. Ruins the idea of elder basically. (Actually no they have separate powers from cos, without kicking ability as to not promote abuse)
2. Notes; I rambled enough and don't need to
explain much more. (No comment as your argument is based off the wrong idea)
3. A new title when my co can do all of this and more. Rather pointless. You can assign someone this job and you don't have to make a title to do that. (A co leader is someone who helps lead the clan, control the members, and offers input on any questions asked. A war chief is specifically for war purposes without having abusive powers)
4. Can't be demoted by co's? Well what happens when your leader goes on vacation? And your war cheif runs wars for loot. What do you do then? Can't demote him. He has little power but yet he has so much more than you think. (If your leader goes on vacation without promoting a new leader, you have a bad leader or untrustworthy cos)

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Originally Posted by GanjaSandwich

You won't get it as I myself being a member of the BBSOA don't think it deserves battle borns seal of approval.

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*cough* *cough* why do i want the guy who posts 50 times a day about how a thread being ruled out without providing any constructive criticism in his posts, to actually approve this. It was a joke because he responded to a ton of threads being ruled out rather than take the time to read and criticize a thread not covered in the stickies.

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

Thanks




*cough* *cough* why do i want the guy who posts 50 times a day about how a thread being ruled out without providing any constructive criticism in his posts, to actually approve this. It was a joke because he responded to a ton of threads being ruled out rather than take the time to read and criticize a thread not covered in the stickies.

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Battle born actually does criticize ideas. If you've talked to
him then you would notice how he is constructive. Yeah replying to a thread that's ruled out? That's an issue how? He informs people to read the sticky in a nice way so idk what's bad about that. Theres a lot of people who do that.When there is a thread WORTH reading and WORTH replying to; youll
find him replying to that so yeah.

thsnks for quoting me just to talk about battle born and not my post
edit lol: you bolded into the quote. Nvm

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Originally Posted by GanjaSandwich

Battle born actually does criticize ideas. If you've talked to
him then you would notice how he is constructive. Yeah replying to a thread that's ruled out? That's an issue how? He informs people to read the sticky in a nice way so idk what's bad about that. Theres a lot of people who do that.When there is a thread WORTH reading and WORTH replying to; youll
find him replying to that so yeah.

as far as your thanks goes; I just offered my opinion.

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Dont be fooled its just a way to get his post count up. I read many things he posts and no for the most part its just saying the same idea is ruled out over and over again sometimes bumping a would be dead thread from page 2 up to page 1 just to say its ruled out. I do value your opinions tho. Constructive criticism is key to a better IFR

ps. Read the bolded parts. Those are your responses

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

Dont be fooled its just a way to get his post count up. I read many things he posts and no for the most part its just saying the same idea is ruled out over and over again sometimes bumping a would be dead thread from page 2 up to page 1 just to say its ruled out. I do value your opinions tho. Constructive criticism is key to a better IFR

ps. Read the bolded parts. Those are your responses

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I edited into my previous post about the bold lol :p I was replying but the window closed -.-
And yeah; I value your opinion as well and do
agree with you on the idea of comstructive criticicism

Oh fun a thread that turned into lets discuss BattleBorn

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Originally Posted by BattleBorn007

Oh fun a thread that turned into lets discuss BattleBorn

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lol
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Sooo....if we can get back to the OP..... I already posted that I like this idea. However, I was thinking that maybe the leader would also have the ability to add notes? I'm not sure I would want to leave the war organization to a member that I don't trust enough to be a coleader.

In real clans (not auto-elder/co clans) the most active and trustworthy are promoted to coleader. That is the type of person I would want in charge of war organization. So while I love the idea for war notes, I'm not sure a 'war chief' position is really required. I think the leader could take care of war planning, as they are often the most active and tuned into the nuances of the members.

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With the new update the clan wars are now a more important part of the game and having this war notes in the game will improve the clan wars even further. However the new position of war chief may not be that good as having another clan position can change the game balance. And as for the 6 hour mail cool down if anyone get to have it then it must be the leader first.

In short adding the clan notes thing is all that I want with the new update as I think it can improve the war performance of every player. Yes we can assign targets by mail and chat but the cool down of mail is 12 hour so it is not possible to assign good targets to everyone with mail and sometimes other players are not online when you are( happens mostly in international clans) so you can't assign then with chat. Also adding war note won't be that hard as boom beach(another game of supercell) already have a similar thing.