I'M RANTING NOW ( please read nicely 😊)

Inferno tower level 1 is way too powerful. Should have made it into 7 to 8 levels like the tesla tower.
Xbow ground/air is worse than an archer tower level 13 now that it has 2x speed. Wow, does it make it any sense to this. Explain.
If i could replace those three lvl 4 xBows each three lvl 13 Archer towers would be way better defense. Prove me wrong, it doesn't make sense. Should have nerfed Barch by increasing the xBows damage and teslas attack speed only.
The 3rd skeleton trap is unneeded at TH10 and same goes with the 5th big bomb.
Hogs gets 1.5x damage, really? Who decided this? Why not just give TH9 level 4 big bombs and more levels of the big bomb. They already kill wizards no matter what and two will kill any hogs.
Too many traps already in the game, can you add more to it Supercell? Just make troops dance instead of attack. Let me count 12 skeletons at TH 10 that is twelve attacks from any king or queen without including the clan castle of 35 that takes forever to come out.


The whole defence does not add up right. If you think it does, then it doesn't make any sense. If you think it makes sense your a full ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Comparing from townhall 9 loot/hour to Th10 loot/hour is like 2 million at Th9 vs 750k for Th10. I did 125 lavas in two weeks in Th9 of an event so I know what the loot average is.


There is low loot in the game for Th10 because elixir into walls need to start at level 10. TH9's are going from purple to legos or higher just so they have 0 elixir to raid. At least this way there is more than a million in their storages. Crystal has the worst loot(not including bronze) full of low level snipers and Noob collector picking at it that cant get past 40% leaving no loot for the Nexting dead bases. See for yourself how bad Crystal league is, Im climbing through it and I ran out of elixir. Oh and if you think i'm wrong about Crystal league, it is nowhere near the loot in Gold, nor in Masters or Champs. Yes exactly, im right again. Is the 60k average loot available in Crystal with 65k bonus ideal for a 25 minute army. Total 125k loot after a raid. It sad i'm telling the true facts of the game.


You want a solution to a part of this SuperCell, how about a trophy penalty for lower Town Hall levels to help them learn the game. Lets say it will be harder for a lower townhall to climb to champions by total trophy numbers available. Oh It would probably make TH7 ZaiZoe cry. Like why are there so many Th7 in masters, they should be there, that is fine, but rarely, not commonly because of people nexting through them.

How about a delay when defending troops jumps walls so they aren't Hogs and give attackers a chance to shoot them and not walls to get to them.

I'm done with ranting, i'm not quitting because any updates will take 6 months to fix, by that time il be still ranting. Something that doesn't matter much like goblins and giants wrong in the barracks which doesnt affect gameplay but what about including something that does matter like the xBow. Should have been an emergency update for the xBow. Why because people are gemming their loot and if your xBow isnt protecting your loot that you gemmed, you are getting scammed. Oh that's the truth, face it.
I'm not much of a gemmer but I am speaking on for all clashers with no hate and respect for the game.
The definition of these words used are the truth of the current game we have now.

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Originally Posted by xDee

Inferno tower level 1 is way too powerful. Should have made it into 7 to 8 levels like the tesla tower.
Xbow ground/air is worse than an archer tower level 13 now that it has 2x speed. Wow, does it make it any sense to this. Explain.
If i could replace those three lvl 4 xBows each three lvl 13 Archer towers would be way better defense. Prove me wrong, it doesn't make sense. Should have nerfed Barch by increasing the xBows damage and teslas attack speed only.
The 3rd skeleton trap is unneeded at TH10 and same goes with the 5th big bomb.
Hogs gets 1.5x damage, really? Who decided this? Why not just give TH9 level 4 big bombs and more levels of the big bomb. They already kill wizards no matter what and two will kill any hogs.
Too many traps already in the game, can you add more to it Supercell? Just make troops dance instead of attack. Let me count 12 skeletons at TH 10 that is twelve attacks from any king or queen without including the clan castle of 35 that takes forever to come out.


The whole defence does not add up right. If you think it does, then it doesn't make any sense. If you think it makes sense your a full ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Comparing from townhall 9 loot/hour to Th10 loot/hour is like 2 million at Th9 vs 750k for Th10. I did 125 lavas in two weeks in Th9 of an event so I know what the loot average is.


There is low loot in the game for Th10 because elixir into walls need to start at level 10. TH9's are going from purple to legos or higher just so they have 0 elixir to raid. At least this way there is more than a million in their storages. Crystal has the worst loot(not including bronze) full of low level snipers and Noob collector picking at it that cant get past 40% leaving no loot for the Nexting dead bases. See for yourself how bad Crystal league is, Im climbing through it and I ran out of elixir. Oh and if you think i'm wrong about Crystal league, it is nowhere near the loot in Gold, nor in Masters or Champs. Yes exactly, im right again. Is the 60k average loot available in Crystal with 65k bonus ideal for a 25 minute army. Total 125k loot after a raid. It sad i'm telling the true facts of the game.


You want a solution to a part of this SuperCell, how about a trophy penalty for lower Town Hall levels to help them learn the game. Lets say it will be harder for a lower townhall to climb to champions by total trophy numbers available. Oh It would probably make TH7 ZaiZoe cry. Like why are there so many Th7 in masters, they should be there, that is fine, but rarely, not commonly because of people nexting through them.

How about a delay when defending troops jumps walls so they aren't Hogs and give attackers a chance to shoot them and not walls to get to them.

I'm done with ranting, i'm not quitting because any updates will take 6 months to fix, by that time il be still ranting. Something that doesn't matter much like goblins and giants wrong in the barracks which doesnt affect gameplay but what about including something that does matter like the xBow. Should have been an emergency update for the xBow. Why because people are gemming their loot and if your xBow isnt protecting your loot that you gemmed, you are getting scammed. Oh that's the truth, face it.
I'm not much of a gemmer but I am speaking on for all clashers with no hate and respect for the game.
The definition of these words used are the truth of the current game we have now.

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No defense is really OP they are balance especially with the freeze spell at th10

Long rant, doubt Supercell will read it.

My summary:

1. Inferno towers are OP, make more levels to them.
2. X-Bows used to be really strong, but now they suck compared to maxed archer towers
3. Too many traps, etc.
4. Loot sucks at TH10
5. Solution to #4 is to make elixir for walls available at level 10 ("lavas")
6. Make it harder for low level TH's to climb artificially high in trophies.
7. Random complaints.
8. Fix the X-Bow already!!!

Okay, my thoughts:
1. Agree, could make inferno towers more interesting. We could nerf all existing levels of the inferno tower, so that the new level 2 or 3 will be like the current level 1. Reduce the price slightly to compensate. Add 2-3 new levels, with the new highest level (5 or 6) being equivalent to the current level 3 towers. Total cost (in gold and build time) would go up, while not nerfing a maxed out inferno tower.

2. Totally agree. I used to think X-Bows were so awesome. Now they're second rate archer towers. Set to air/ground mode, they outdistance a maxed archer tower by one tile, but they have considerably lower DPS, and the archer towers have a high enough firing rate to mow down just as many troops. The only thing an X-Bow outshines now is a cannon, with 5 tiles additional range on ground mode. An archer tower is like a "tier 1" defense, and X-Bows are like a "tier 2" or "tier 3" defense. For any given TH level, an archer tower should NEVER be stronger than an X-Bow. That was bad game balancing by Supercell.

3. No comment.

4. So I've heard, but I can't comment.

5. Totally agree. If 1/4th of the wall costs at TH9 are level 9 walls, why do they need those to be available with elixir? Wouldn't it be enough to make level 9 walls gold only, but let them dump elixir to their heart's content (in 3M elixir chunks) into level 10 walls?

6. Totally agree. Don't know what the solution is though. One solution I've heard is to take away the loot penalty in high leagues. It won't stop a low TH from climbing, but if they can potentially lose a lot more loot, it could at least slow them down. And it would inject a tiny bit of extra loot into circulation at high trophy ranges.

7. No comment

8. No comment.

And what would happen to those of us who already spent a lot of gold to max our infernos

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Originally Posted by Spurs978

And what would happen to those of us who already spent a lot of gold to max our infernos

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Nothing? Does it matter?

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Originally Posted by Spurs978

And what would happen to those of us who already spent a lot of gold to max our infernos

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I thought that was obvious. If your inferno tower is level 3 now, it would still be level 3 afterwards.

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Originally Posted by xDee

The whole defence does not add up right. If you think it does, then it doesn't make any sense. If you think it makes sense your a full ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

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are you sure you aren't the ♥♥♥♥♥♥?

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Originally Posted by Xitra

I thought that was obvious. If your inferno tower is level 3 now, it would still be level 3 afterwards.

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You maxxed inferno with 8 mil gold and it get nerfed to be like a lv 1 inferno
trolling moment

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Originally Posted by xDee

Inferno tower level 1 is way too powerful. Should have made it into 7 to 8 levels like the tesla tower. So, you want to nerf the level 3 inferno into a level 1.75?
Xbow ground/air is worse than an archer tower level 13 now that it has 2x speed. Wow, does it make it any sense to this. Explain.
IMO, X-bows are better equipped for taking out giants in GiBarch, but are still OP for any th8 barcher of any kind.
If i could replace those three lvl 4 xBows each three lvl 13 Archer towers would be way better defense. Prove me wrong, it doesn't make sense. Should have nerfed Barch by increasing the xBows damage and teslas attack speed only.You realize that archer towers waste 1 or 2 shots on a dead target? And it shoots about 2 times a second. An X-bow shoots around 5-10 times a second and wastes 2 or 3. So much more accuracy.
The 3rd skeleton trap is unneeded at TH10 and same goes with the 5th big bomb. For some, it decides the attack. Just because it is a certain way for you doesn't mean everyone else thinks that.
Hogs gets 1.5x damage, really? Who decided this? Why not just give TH9 level 4 big bombs and more levels of the big bomb. They already kill wizards no matter what and two will kill any hogs. Supercell decided it of course! Without them, clan wars would be Hog Wars for th7+.
Too many traps already in the game, can you add more to it Supercell? Just make troops dance instead of attack. Let me count 12 skeletons at TH 10 that is twelve attacks from any king or queen without including the clan castle of 35 that takes forever to come out. We should do that! I once saw this great idea that when you activate the queen's ability near the enemy king, they dance while the queen saps the kings health.

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Mmmmmmhmmm.

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Originally Posted by xDee

Inferno tower level 1 is way too powerful. Should have made it into 7 to 8 levels like the tesla tower.
Xbow ground/air is worse than an archer tower level 13 now that it has 2x speed. Wow, does it make it any sense to this. Explain.
If i could replace those three lvl 4 xBows each three lvl 13 Archer towers would be way better defense. Prove me wrong, it doesn't make sense. Should have nerfed Barch by increasing the xBows damage and teslas attack speed only.
The 3rd skeleton trap is unneeded at TH10 and same goes with the 5th big bomb.
Hogs gets 1.5x damage, really? Who decided this? Why not just give TH9 level 4 big bombs and more levels of the big bomb. They already kill wizards no matter what and two will kill any hogs.
Too many traps already in the game, can you add more to it Supercell? Just make troops dance instead of attack. Let me count 12 skeletons at TH 10 that is twelve attacks from any king or queen without including the clan castle of 35 that takes forever to come out.


The whole defence does not add up right. If you think it does, then it doesn't make any sense. If you think it makes sense your a full ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Comparing from townhall 9 loot/hour to Th10 loot/hour is like 2 million at Th9 vs 750k for Th10. I did 125 lavas in two weeks in Th9 of an event so I know what the loot average is.


There is low loot in the game for Th10 because elixir into walls need to start at level 10. TH9's are going from purple to legos or higher just so they have 0 elixir to raid. At least this way there is more than a million in their storages. Crystal has the worst loot(not including bronze) full of low level snipers and Noob collector picking at it that cant get past 40% leaving no loot for the Nexting dead bases. See for yourself how bad Crystal league is, Im climbing through it and I ran out of elixir. Oh and if you think i'm wrong about Crystal league, it is nowhere near the loot in Gold, nor in Masters or Champs. Yes exactly, im right again. Is the 60k average loot available in Crystal with 65k bonus ideal for a 25 minute army. Total 125k loot after a raid. It sad i'm telling the true facts of the game.


You want a solution to a part of this SuperCell, how about a trophy penalty for lower Town Hall levels to help them learn the game. Lets say it will be harder for a lower townhall to climb to champions by total trophy numbers available. Oh It would probably make TH7 ZaiZoe cry. Like why are there so many Th7 in masters, they should be there, that is fine, but rarely, not commonly because of people nexting through them.

How about a delay when defending troops jumps walls so they aren't Hogs and give attackers a chance to shoot them and not walls to get to them.

I'm done with ranting, i'm not quitting because any updates will take 6 months to fix, by that time il be still ranting. Something that doesn't matter much like goblins and giants wrong in the barracks which doesnt affect gameplay but what about including something that does matter like the xBow. Should have been an emergency update for the xBow. Why because people are gemming their loot and if your xBow isnt protecting your loot that you gemmed, you are getting scammed. Oh that's the truth, face it.
I'm not much of a gemmer but I am speaking on for all clashers with no hate and respect for the game.
The definition of these words used are the truth of the current game we have now.

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So you think we are ♥♥♥♥♥♥s well i would say the same about you but it would be an insult to ♥♥♥♥♥♥s all over the world, at least the incredible amounts of nonsense in your post were good for a chuckle. The one thing i dont understand is if you think the game is so flawed why do you waste your time playing it.

1. I don't know what to think about this thread.
2. I do know no changes will be made, unless its minor.
3. there's this thing called a "freeze spell", I think you should look into it.

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Originally Posted by AlvinSoehendryWijaya

You maxxed inferno with 8 mil gold and it get nerfed to be like a lv 1 inferno
trolling moment

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I initially said make level 3 like level 1, but then hedged and said level 2 or 3 like level 1. Gameplay analysis by SEE would determine how much of a nerf is in order.

In single target mode (after 2 seconds), the level 1 inferno tower still has higher DPS than the hidden tesla, AT, WT, cannon, X-Bow, and mortar. Only the air Defense has it beat on single-target DPS.

In single target mode, it's the equivalent of 5 (admittedly weak) defensive towers in a 2x2 package.

Even a level 1 inferno will go to task on TH9 players. So no, I don't think it's trolling, it's balancing. And if making the level 3 that weak is too much of a swing in balance, then make it level 2 that gets nerfed that much, and make the level 3 a little weaker than the current level 2. And make a new level 4 that's a little stronger than the current level 2. And a new level 5 that's where the current level 3 is.

It's just a way to add to the total investment (in gold and time) to unlock the ultimate defense in the game. An X-Bow costs 23M to max and is weaker. A Hidden tesla costs about the same to max, and is weaker (but has the advantage of surprise?). Archer tower costs almost 24M to max and you have 7 of them. Why shouldn't the total investment in the ultimate defense be more than any of those?

When they made elixir walls available, what did that do to all the players who had maxed their walls with gold only? That's what this would do. It would make your cumulative 19.5M gold investment worth considerably less, maybe 15M gold depending on how they re-priced each level. Oh well, happens all the time in this game.

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Originally Posted by Xitra

For any given TH level, an archer tower should NEVER be stronger than an X-Bow. That was bad game balancing by Supercell.

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Perfect. I couldn't have explained it any better than this.

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Originally Posted by AlvinSoehendryWijaya

You maxxed inferno with 8 mil gold and it get nerfed to be like a lv 1 inferno
trolling moment

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Exactly...