Lightning spell problem to dark elixer storage

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February 5th, 2015
Gama321

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Originally Posted by mushy

Forgive me rwelshjr but on the balance of probability what this OP is stating is at the very minimum an over statement of one incident.

Nobody including yourself has ever experienced zapping with any regularity in crystal league and fewer still can claim to have foiled a maxed TH10 attack being a TH9 (gold or lower perhaps as usually tier one troops make the bulk of raiding troops for loot) but not only make the claim that a TH10 failed an attack but to be offended he finshed off with zapping which anyone with any idea of the game will do.

He has constantly harped on about one incident. Its time to realise him for the troll he is IMO.

I am in m2/m3 and the only de I ever lose is to zaps. Of course I mainly get sniped but it doesn't change that I am more likely to be zapped than properly raided. In other words my defence is just so OP that no army can ever hope to take a single storage or that zapping is more profitable than everybody likes to claim. One of those two has to be the case.
February 5th, 2015
Goobers

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Originally Posted by Gama321

I am in m2/m3 and the only de I ever lose is to zaps. Of course I mainly get sniped but it doesn't change that I am more likely to be zapped than properly raided. In other words my defence is just so OP that no army can ever hope to take a single storage or that zapping is more profitable than everybody likes to claim. One of those two has to be the case.

And once again I am saying that it's b/c you are getting sniped constantly. And this is due to a broken league system that should be overhauled. You just mentioned it in this post, that most of your defenses are snipes. If the system was fixed, then those snipes would be much rarer, and you'd face actual attacks on your base. That would further show just how inefficient DE zaps were, as you would hope you got the rare "move up for trophies" TH snipe or a simple DE zap. I'm not saying you're not getting zapped up there, but it's either TH snipes or the occasional DE zap, and the only reason it seems like it's prevalent is b/c this league bonus system is completely outdated.

To illustrate the example better: You protect DE storages from lightning spells, and you've essentially done away with any resource loss up in those leagues. Just TH snipes. How atrociously flawed is that?
February 5th, 2015
mushy

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Originally Posted by Gama321

I am in m2/m3 and the only de I ever lose is to zaps. Of course I mainly get sniped but it doesn't change that I am more likely to be zapped than properly raided. In other words my defence is just so OP that no army can ever hope to take a single storage or that zapping is more profitable than everybody likes to claim. One of those two has to be the case.

Fair enough, but equally I dont see you gunning me down for making my point and neither are you complain about zapping like a sore loser.

My experience of crystal has always been to be attacked fully. The further up I go the harder my base gets hit when it does get attacked. When I looked to attack I quickly dropped my farming troops and was forced to use gowi attacks as I couldn't win any battles otherwise.

I had been in crystal a few weeks only but have never been zapped and reading the posts of others here my belief of zapping higher up than gold is strengthened that it is rare.

I am in gold 1 now and have been for several months and I can't even remember when I was last zapped.
February 5th, 2015
rwelshjr

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Originally Posted by mushy

Forgive me rwelshjr but on the balance of probability what this OP is stating is at the very minimum an over statement of one incident.

Nobody including yourself has ever experienced zapping with any regularity in crystal league and fewer still can claim to have foiled a maxed TH10 attack being a TH9 (gold or lower perhaps as usually tier one troops make the bulk of raiding troops for loot) but not only make the claim that a TH10 failed an attack but to be offended he finshed off with zapping which anyone with any idea of the game will do.

He has constantly harped on about one incident. Its time to realise him for the troll he is IMO.

I have pointed out that his facts are odd and with alignment issues so I am open to your point. But he says that's because I am not understanding his situation (whether reading poorly or just not getting it, whatever) so I am being open minded. A screen print would answer any questions so that's what's on the table for his next step. If he is not willing then I guess I would have to concede your point.
February 5th, 2015
Goobers

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Originally Posted by mushy

Fair enough, but equally I dont see you gunning me down for making my point and neither are you complain about zapping like a sore loser.

My experience of crystal has always been to be attacked fully. The further up I go the harder my base gets hit when it does get attacked. When I looked to attack I quickly dropped my farming troops and was forced to use gowi attacks as I couldn't win any battles otherwise.

I had been in crystal a few weeks only but have never been zapped and reading the posts of others here my belief of zapping higher up than gold is strengthened that it is rare.

I am in gold 1 now and have been for several months and I can't even remember when I was last zapped.

If you hang around where TH7s and TH8s mostly reside, expect to get zapped. They will barch for their farming, and then use lightning spells to get DE as their troops aren't strong enough to crack into TH9/10's DE storages, and they have little to no value placed on elixir (b/c elixir for walls revert). I have been letting my TH9 and TH10 bases "die" and they're settling around 1100 and 1500. I get zapped fairly regularly when I'm holding more than 40k (I'd say 1 out of 5 attacks or so). However, this is predictable, expected, and there is nothing wrong with it. I produce 4800 and 7200 DE a day passively. Losing 700-1k every 2-3 days is not even remotely a problem worth discussing.
February 5th, 2015
Xitra

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Originally Posted by MomoZB

supercell said they where nto thinking about changing it because it is too inefficient and therefor it does not happen a lot. Well guess what? it does, outside of gold league, and by th10s. so it needs changing. All the suggestions I read in the past that people told to get away from lightning zapping DE does not work (be out of gold, open th with flags blah blah)

I suppose I could re-read the thread from page 1 to answer this myself, but I figured it would be quicker to just ask:
Are you claiming that this happens to you all the time? Like, several times a day? Several times a week at least?

From your very first post, I had the impression that you were complaining about a single, isolated incident. From a subsequent post of yours, several pages in, I got the impression that this was only the second time this had happened to you in about a month.

Can you please clarify how often this is happening to you? How many times per week or per day?

PS: Posting from my phone, hope this works
February 5th, 2015
Goobers

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Originally Posted by Xitra

I suppose I could re-read the thread from page 1 to answer this myself, but I figured it would be quicker to just ask:
Are you claiming that this happens to you all the time? Like, several times a day? Several times a week at least?

From your very first post, I had the impression that you were complaining about a single, isolated incident. From a subsequent post of yours, several pages in, I got the impression that this was only the second time this had happened to you in about a month.

Can you please clarify how often this is happening to you? How many times per week or per day?

Yes. OP: screenshots please, of your last 40 defense logs.
February 5th, 2015
Scuba061

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Originally Posted by Gama321

Riding a shield has nothing to do with the ratio at which somebody gets zapped as opposed to raided with troops.

It has everything to do with it. More shield time means less chance of getting zapped because your base isn't exposed as often. You lessen the odds because there's less opportunity.
February 5th, 2015
useless

zaping should not be taken because im a starting th7 and i got attacked by many mixed th 8 and sometimes 9 how the hell i can revenge them???
February 5th, 2015
mushy

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Originally Posted by Goobers

If you hang around where TH7s and TH8s mostly reside, expect to get zapped. They will barch for their farming, and then use lightning spells to get DE as their troops aren't strong enough to crack into TH9/10's DE storages, and they have little to no value placed on elixir (b/c elixir for walls revert). I have been letting my TH9 and TH10 bases "die" and they're settling around 1100 and 1500. I get zapped fairly regularly when I'm holding more than 40k (I'd say 1 out of 5 attacks or so). However, this is predictable, expected, and there is nothing wrong with it. I produce 4800 and 7200 DE a day passively. Losing 700-1k every 2-3 days is not even remotely a problem worth discussing.

I agree with you. For some reason I haven't been getting zapped perhaps on account of my main walls all being skulls and lego but dont know. Many times I have been sniped now from lvl 40s to 100 odds and no one zapped me and thisbisbin gold 1

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