Why maxxing out every th is a fool move , for new users

So lets take a situation where everyone in both sides rushes apart from a couple of people on one side.
Its quite possible everyone gets 3 starred apart from the 2 non rushers.

You can be a rushed TH9 with max pekka and golem but still only 2 star Th9 while your non rushed opponent with better defences but a lower gowipe will quite probably 3 star you.

I'm a non rushed TH10 half way through and when in war I come across 2 rushed TH10 at the top I often 3 star them while they do not even want to attack me. Then my number 2 who is a good TH9 has 2 free cleanup attacks.

Now ya don't have to be pedantic about it, a few bombs or bits of wall not upgraded fine... and purple wall on the outside is pretty good till TH10... Mortars are generally ♥♥♥♥ higher up, sure for the barch but they will be the last thing I do at TH10. Teslas, and towers, only a mug would not upgrade... Xbow level 1 are worse than archer towers while at level 3 they are solid as a rock. Low level heroes and you will really struggle to get good stars.

For those that do not get what I am saying... good!

Please please everyone rush apart form our clan. This post makes me laugh, in particular when people say rushing is fine and good for war and only idiots waving books would not rush.... PML

The Beasties! ... not the best clan in the world but we hold our head high

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Originally Posted by JKL2207

Whoa first of all you identified a common trait of a good rusher is to only maximise only the farming army they require and the war army that they will use. Because of efficient use of time.

Remember hogs before the hogs nerf? All those premmie TH7s that neglected their air defences, focused on splash defence and giant bombs and just maxed hogs and rushed to TH9 for maxed hogs and TH10 for multi target infernos. The result of that good rushing as you put it left many rushed players in a world of mass dragon pain how long did they take to adapt to that, weeks, months or just plain gave up because their one and only strategy was nerfed?

The flexibility and adaptability that a maxer has over a rusher is the versatility in armies they are able to field at any given time. When you rush and you war and you are that hog guy or dragon guy or GoWi"X" guy or Lavloon guy.... you basically restrict yourself to fielding that army and basically pigeon-hole yourself, on what bases you can attack that in no way sounds flexible or adaptable.

The flexibility that you have as maxer is you get to field whatever army is suitable based on the base, you get to tailor an army based on the base itself, rather than pre-making an army and hoping for the best.

So what if your entire strategy hinged upon lavloon and next week a nerf comes (ie, SAM deals double damage to lava hounds) how adaptable are you going to be? How flexible is the army that you can field going to be? Or if some clever base builder finally works out how to counter Lavloonion effectively?

Are you then going to have to go back to spending a couple of weeks maxing your wizards, couple of weeks maxing your wall breakers, 2 months maxing your golems, 2 months maxing your pekkas, 10 days on witches so you can field a GoWiPe or GoWiWi, that kind of recovery time just to field another viable war army?

So please tell us again what flexibility and adaptability does a rusher have?

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Stupid point, you spent all that time talking about how rushers have lower troops than maxers but if they start at the same time they will get the same amount of upgrades done. Maxers are the ones who would be levelling troops like valks, goblins and healers though so they would be behind.

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Originally Posted by nadanicht

So lets take a situation where everyone in both sides rushes apart from a couple of people on one side.
Its quite possible everyone gets 3 starred apart from the 2 non rushers.

You can be a rushed TH9 with max pekka and golem but still only 2 star Th9 while your non rushed opponent with better defences but a lower gowipe will quite probably 3 star you.

I'm a non rushed TH10 half way through and when in war I come across 2 rushed TH10 at the top I often 3 star them while they do not even want to attack me. Then my number 2 who is a good TH9 has 2 free cleanup attacks.

Now ya don't have to be pedantic about it, a few bombs or bits of wall not upgraded fine... and purple wall on the outside is pretty good till TH10... Mortars are generally ♥♥♥♥ higher up, sure for the barch but they will be the last thing I do at TH10. Teslas, and towers, only a mug would not upgrade... Xbow level 1 are worse than archer towers while at level 3 they are solid as a rock. Low level heroes and you will really struggle to get good stars.

For those that do not get what I am saying... good!

Please please everyone rush apart form our clan. This post makes me laugh, in particular when people say rushing is fine and good for war and only idiots waving books would not rush.... PML

The Beasties! ... not the best clan in the world but we hold our head high

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Thanks Nada. haha

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Originally Posted by nadanicht

So lets take a situation where everyone in both sides rushes apart from a couple of people on one side.
Its quite possible everyone gets 3 starred apart from the 2 non rushers.

You can be a rushed TH9 with max pekka and golem but still only 2 star Th9 while your non rushed opponent with better defences but a lower gowipe will quite probably 3 star you.

I'm a non rushed TH10 half way through and when in war I come across 2 rushed TH10 at the top I often 3 star them while they do not even want to attack me. Then my number 2 who is a good TH9 has 2 free cleanup attacks.

Now ya don't have to be pedantic about it, a few bombs or bits of wall not upgraded fine... and purple wall on the outside is pretty good till TH10... Mortars are generally ♥♥♥♥ higher up, sure for the barch but they will be the last thing I do at TH10. Teslas, and towers, only a mug would not upgrade... Xbow level 1 are worse than archer towers while at level 3 they are solid as a rock. Low level heroes and you will really struggle to get good stars.

For those that do not get what I am saying... good!

Please please everyone rush apart form our clan. This post makes me laugh, in particular when people say rushing is fine and good for war and only idiots waving books would not rush.... PML

The Beasties! ... not the best clan in the world but we hold our head high

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Wrong. Firstly there are different degrees of rushing which you neglect.
Secondly you compare a rushed th9 to a maxed th9, when you should be comparing it to a maxed th8. In which case the th9 would win.

Sharon and ash are the only rusher that i admire. However both dont do war and theyre really active.

Rushing can be the best strategy for a small portion of the clash of clan population. The problem with threads like this is that they get read by a bigger slice of the population who will take away improper advice. Too many people will do it wrong or will not be active enough to reap the benefits. The rule of thumb is still to max out your base at each townhall but like all rules, there are some exceptions.

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Originally Posted by nadanicht

So lets take a situation where everyone in both sides rushes apart from a couple of people on one side.
Its quite possible everyone gets 3 starred apart from the 2 non rushers.

You can be a rushed TH9 with max pekka and golem but still only 2 star Th9 while your non rushed opponent with better defences but a lower gowipe will quite probably 3 star you.

I'm a non rushed TH10 half way through and when in war I come across 2 rushed TH10 at the top I often 3 star them while they do not even want to attack me. Then my number 2 who is a good TH9 has 2 free cleanup attacks.

Now ya don't have to be pedantic about it, a few bombs or bits of wall not upgraded fine... and purple wall on the outside is pretty good till TH10... Mortars are generally ♥♥♥♥ higher up, sure for the barch but they will be the last thing I do at TH10. Teslas, and towers, only a mug would not upgrade... Xbow level 1 are worse than archer towers while at level 3 they are solid as a rock. Low level heroes and you will really struggle to get good stars.

For those that do not get what I am saying... good!

Please please everyone rush apart form our clan. This post makes me laugh, in particular when people say rushing is fine and good for war and only idiots waving books would not rush.... PML

The Beasties! ... not the best clan in the world but we hold our head high

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Thanks for the effort of trying to compare...

But my 5 months old rushed TH9 has max lavaloonion and spells, which is the most powerful war troops a max TH9 can get. Without gems, what level of TH a maxer can get in a 5 months account? In war, my rushed TH9 get matchup with TH8 which i don't even bother to attack and TH8 barely 2 stars my base (3 starred once a while).. in an other hand i 3 star top TH9s and even th10.

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Originally Posted by WoodysHaze

Rushing can be the best strategy for a small portion of the clash of clan population. The problem with threads like this is that they get read by a bigger slice of the population who will take away improper advice. Too many people will do it wrong or will not be active enough to reap the benefits. The rule of thumb is still to max out your base at each townhall but like all rules, there are some exceptions.

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Not true... i saw many new players get bored of trying to max everything but after 2-3 months they quit. Why ? maybe they are tired of being bullied by higher level TH and keep losing their loots or lose patience because they can't use any advanced troops.

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Originally Posted by ForgiveMeNot

Not true... i saw many new players get bored of trying to max everything but after 2-3 months they quit. Why ? maybe they are tired of being bullied by higher level TH and keep losing their loots or lose patience because they can't use any advanced troops.

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Yep, because everyone is scared of rushed bases and no one attacks them. When I see a rushed TH9, or any rushed TH, I always leave them alone, they are no match and cannot be bullied :(

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Originally Posted by petio1981

Yep, because everyone is scared of rushed bases and no one attacks them. When I see a rushed TH9, I always leave them alone, they are no match and cannot be bullied :(

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If you consider attacking a base that can strike you back bullying, guess you are bullying TH9-TH10 maxer when you snipe TH and zap their DE. :)