Why maxxing out every th is a fool move , for new users

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Originally Posted by Erighan

If you have any desire to compete in wars at a high level, rushing past th8 is a terrible idea. If you just want to farm or push, and you are very active, then rushing is perfectly acceptable.

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It is not true. My 5 months old rushed TH9 has max war troops that can 3 stars TH9s (and some TH10s) and it's ranked as TH8 in war... it has the same offenses as a max TH9 but does better than most average TH9 that can barely or can't even 2 stars a TH9.

I also have a rushed TH10 with TH8 defenses lvl and it does better than those averages/near max TH10 in war... and defend better than most of TH10 (ppl only 1-2 starred it in cw with max gowiwi/pe). When it comes to defenses, it's all about layout and placement of the defense buildings and traps...., TH10 don't need to max everything to defend.

please yes rush to TH9 and TH10, I would love to steal all your loot. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by SinOfDusk

I for myself don't believe in maxing. Its the slowest way to progress in this game and only applicable to total newbs, which most should not be newbs once u reached th 7/8.

I found that maxing th8 is one of the most detrimental moves you can make. Not only are you wasting lix/de, you are essentially the milking cow for any th9. With just lvl6 giants and aq, I can flatten any th8 I see with ease. As a rusher, it is common for me to be matched against a maxed Th8 in war. Outcome, the th8 can barely scratch me with dragons, gowipe or hogs. While I can 3 star the th8 almost blindfolded and using giants as my main army

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I agree with you but maxing th8 is not so bad. Farming as a max TH8 is great, rarely attacked nowadays, mostly TH snipe.
For war, however, it is a bit more difficult since I am matched with max TH8 or premmie TH9, it is very hard to 3-star them. A premmie TH9 does have a better chance to 3-starring a max TH8, but definitely not walk in the park. I don't know about the bases you hit in war, but I am generally attacked by max th8 or early-to-mid TH9, and I have not been 3-starred in a while.

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Originally Posted by TheRealchrism

please yes rush to TH9 and TH10, I would love to steal all your loot. Thanks!

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Lol..I never thought to read this comment from you...regardless, I Don't care if you take all my loot. As a rusher, I have never had a problem finding a place to spend it. So enjoy your 30k of each resource, you will have to expend all your troops and pretty much 100% my base though. And then, since I don't open up for attacks until I am going to sleep, or work...My collectors/mines will have recouped my losses x 10 by the time I wake up...lol.. enjoy :)

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Originally Posted by latinlotus

I agree with you but maxing th8 is not so bad. Farming as a max TH8 is great, rarely attacked nowadays, mostly TH snipe.
For war, however, it is a bit more difficult since I am matched with max TH8 or premmie TH9, it is very hard to 3-star them. A premmie TH9 does have a better chance to 3-starring a max TH8, but definitely not walk in the park. I don't know about the bases you hit in war, I am generally attacked by max th8 or early-to-mid TH9, and I have not been 3-starred in a while.

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I haven't attacked an 8 in a while, but..when I did it was always a 3 star. I'm pretty much midway on maxing my defenses as a th9, still have level 8 and 9 AT's and Canns, 2 lvl5 Ad's, lvl 3 teslas, etc etc...I'm considered rushed to a point, even though I have maxed Wt's, Level 3 xbows on the way, AQ10/BK up'ing to 15, getting close to a hundred legos.

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Originally Posted by latinlotus

I agree with you but maxing th8 is not so bad. Farming as a max TH8 is great, rarely attacked nowadays, mostly TH snipe.
For war, however, it is a bit more difficult since I am matched with max TH8 or premmie TH9, it is very hard to 3-star them. A premmie TH9 does have a better chance to 3-starring a max TH8, but definitely not walk in the park. I don't know about the bases you hit in war, but I am generally attacked by max th8 or early-to-mid TH9, and I have not been 3-starred in a while.

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Can you post a screen shot of your bases? As a TH9 who primarily farms off TH8s I'm finding this a bit unbelievable.

http://i.imgur.com/k835bJd.jpg

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...rrid_Bases.png



In all seriousness, though, it's a good move, in my opinion, and town hall eight is absolutely not a "weak" town hall.


You get the best loot at th8. You are telling people to rush from th8, though? :confused:
You don't get farmed all the time from th9's and th10's, like you are saying. The point of farming is to move where the ratio of strong:weak bases is very low. Therefore, it is not mathematically possible for you to be destroyed all the time by th9's and th10's...

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Originally Posted by Foreigner

Can you post a screen shot of your bases? As a TH9 who primarily farms off TH8s I'm finding this a bit unbelievable.

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My farming base was not 3-starred in over 2 months. Looking back at my defense log in the past 2 weeks, the most I was given out was 60%. And I have over 30k of DE in storage, and stay around gold 2 and 3.

As for war, maxed th9 don't attack me, only max th8 to Mid th9. I am sure an advanced th9 can 3-star my base.

I am not sure how to upload pic, will try later.

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Originally Posted by Jonra

And then, since I don't open up for attacks until I am going to sleep, or work...

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You sound like you need help. Also you keep dropping the word rusher yet you claim your farm troops AND war troops are at max or near max levels. Then you claim your WT's, X-bows and several other defences are max so really wth are you "rushing"??? You then go on to say you dump all your gold in walls so they're probably also on a decent level. So where in lies this mega huge difference between someone who maxes and you? I'm no rusher, I also farm around 3 million gold an hour, always have max elixir and max out both defenses and troops at the same time. I keep a worker free and dump the gold so I'm usually quite broke till workers are about to come free. I can quickly revv up from under 300k gold to 5 million in a matter of hours. So what's your point really??? If you have one. Because if you're maxing troops since you focus on offense the lab time alone on some TH levels are longer than building upgrade times. If during this time you're supposedly looting and spending all this loot wth are you spending it on? There's only so long low level defenses remain low level if you dump all your gold into them....which is what maxers do...dump gold into stuff. If you're just maxing troops on the other hand like I said the lab time on TH8 is longer than it takes to max out all buildings so you'll be waiting around anyways as is. I think you're just caught up in trying to desperately prove a point and or you're using the term "rusher" unjustifyingly. Since a pure rushers usually has only farm troops, heal spells and lightning at an adequate level. With very ♥♥♥♥ bases and level 1 heroes. You claim to have none of these which leads me to believe you're either misguided, a fool or a troll

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Originally Posted by Ricthegreat

You sound like you need help. Also you keep dropping the word rusher yet you claim your farm troops AND war troops are at max or near max levels. Then you claim your WT's, X-bows and several other defences are max so really wth are you "rushing"??? You then go on to say you dump all your gold in walls so they're probably also on a decent level. So where in lies this mega huge difference between someone who maxes and you? I'm no rusher, I also farm around 3 million gold an hour, always have max elixir and max out both defenses and troops at the same time. I keep a worker free and dump the gold so I'm usually quite broke till workers are about to come free. I can quickly revv up from under 300k gold to 5 million in a matter of hours. So what's your point really??? If you have one. Because if you're maxing troops since you focus on offense the lab time alone on some TH levels are longer than building upgrade times. If during this time you're supposedly looting and spending all this loot wth are you spending it on? There's only so long low level defenses remain low level if you dump all your gold into them....which is what maxers do...dump gold into stuff. If you're just maxing troops on the other hand like I said the lab time on TH8 is longer than it takes to max out all buildings so you'll be waiting around anyways as is. I think you're just caught up in trying to desperately prove a point and or you're using the term "rusher" unjustifyingly. Since a pure rushers usually has only farm troops, heal spells and lightning at an adequate level. With very ♥♥♥♥ bases and level 1 heroes. You claim to have none of these which leads me to believe you're either misguided, a fool or a troll

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Paragraphs, and manners. There are a few different types of rushers, some upgrade when they reach any bottleneck (walls, defenses, lab completion), some just upgrade all the way to 10 and max farming troops, some defensesless, some just skip over 8 to 9. Each has their own different playstyle.

I noticed that most good rushers can max both farming and war troops easily while rushing. The key thing to remember that we rushers value time, not the amount of resources it takes to get there. The best strategy for rushing is to max the bare minimum of war troops and farming troops you need. I tend to gibarch, so I maxed giants, barbs and archers; there are some rushers with different playstyles and max their troops according to playstyles.

The common point is most rushers will only max the most efficient war army we need. Guess what that army is? Lavaloons. Only requiring you to max 2 troops, at most 3 (minions) to achieve maxed war army, which can 2-3 star most th9-10. GoWixxxx armies are great, but require you to max many many troops and are usually geared towards a 2 star strategy unless you invest more time to research more varying troops.

While maxing has its merits (I still find most people still can't say why it is good, sheeples :rolleyes:), the change in meta, ie. the introduction of lava hounds and the revert of lix-to-walls update made it such that the most efficient route now is to rush. Then depending on your playstyle and needs, stay at TH9 or move to TH10

So have you noticed that common trait of rushers? Flexibility and adaptability, which all maxers lack

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Originally Posted by latinlotus

My farming base was not 3-starred in over 2 months. Looking back at my defense log in the past 2 weeks, the most I was given out was 60%. And I have over 30k of DE in storage, and stay around gold 2 and 3.

As for war, maxed th9 don't attack me, only max th8 to Mid th9. I am sure an advanced th9 can 3-star my base.

I am not sure how to upload pic, will try later.

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An average th9 can three star your base no problem. There is no way a th8 can defend a max level loonian attack. I don't care what your base looks like. Even a decent L6 giant AQ/BK could three star you. I'm an almost maxed th8 and I have seen th9s smoke my base, if they really want what I have. That's like a th7 saying that they have never been 3 starred by a th8.
No one can defend against the next level th if they have the appropriate troops for their level.