Max TH9 vs Rushed TH10 (My experiment and experience)

As with most clash addicts I decided to start a second account and I mostly made it so it could donate troops to my main account. My first TH9 has max defense and I am still working on walls and heroes. My second account literally just hit TH9 very prematurely a few days ago.

Here is my experiment...

I plan on rushing my second account to TH10 after a few circumstances happen that I will list below. I will not upgrade my current TH9 till it is completely maxed with walls and heroes.

After reading all the commentary on the forums I think rushing vs. maxing is a personal preference but I wanted to try things out for myself. Feel free to comment about your own maxing or rushing journey here and I will do my best to also answer any questions you have.

Read all the details below...

Thanks! Clash On!!!

As of 2/2/2015 these are where my two bases are at and the conditions under which I will upgrade them to TH10.

Main Account:
TH9 Level 111 Max Defense
GG=417mil
EE=413mil
HH=2.2mil
Heroes= Lvl 17 king and Lvl 14 queen
Walls = 193 Skulls, 57 Legos

I have spent most of my time doing Balloonian in Crystal and Masters League which accounts for high HH vs. Gold and Elixir. Or at least it seems that way.

Conditions for Upgrade = Both heroes at Lvl 30 and Lava Walls. I think the walls will end up being harder than the heroes but we shall see.

Mini Account:
TH9 Level 76
Most of my Defense is Max th7 with a few maxed at max th8 levels. (otherwise it is pretty pathetic)
GG=129 mil
EE=126 mil
HH=340k
Heroes=Level 10 Barb King and Lvl 2 Queen
Walls = 59 Level 6, 175 Level 7, Only 16 Skulls

I have had this account for maybe 8 months and my other account for about 18 months, but I am a casual player with occasional boosting if I need to trophy push or get enough gold or elixir for an upgrade. I never spend money on gems just get achievements and clear out obstacles.

Conditions for Upgrade = Lvl 6 Barch, Lvl 6 Loons with Lvl 5 Minions for Balloonian, Lvl 2 Lava Hounds which looks like it will take 63 days cause my minions are only at lvl 2. :/

I will do all the new defense upgrades but will leave them all at lvl1 including xbows.

I will spend most of my builder time on camps, SF, Lab, DE Drills, DE Storage for certain, queen upgrades, and probably LVL 12 mines and collectors if I can fit it in.

I will dump all excess gold into walls which should be a lot since I have so many elixir upgrades to do.

That is about all I can think of right now. If I think of more I will update this page or add it to My Experience page.

2/15 Base Snapshots:

Max Defense TH9
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Rushed TH9
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2/7/2015 Mini Account Update:

So far so good, walls really do matter. I have had a lot of TH snipes compared to TH8. The few people that have stolen any resources brought strong armies and double heroes over LVL 10. I got hit by 35 hogs and they still only got 85% even with my weak defenses. I am using a slightly modified cogwheel base design for TH9. Loot has been good for me in gold and crystal leagues just barching and Baming with lvl 5 archer and barb. Trying to decide on whether to do lvl 6 balloon first for war or just get the lvl 6 archer done. Lvl 3 Minions finish in 2 days so I have time to decide.

36 LVL 6 Walls
191 LVL 7 Walls
23 LVL 8 Walls

LVL 1 AD, LVL 1 WT, LVL 1 AT - Done!
Working on LVL 1 Xbow, will finish the other one after that.
Two Camps to LVL 7, Two more LVL 7 camps already building
Lvl 7 Lab - Done!
Lvl 4 SF - Currently Building
Queen going to 4, and will immediately put her to 5 after tomorrow.

Here are my exact defense stats since I didn't mention them earlier...
5 LVL 9 cannons
5 LVL 8 archer towers
1 lvl 6 WT, 2 LVL 5, 1 LVL 1
3 LVL 5 AD, 1 LVL 1
2 LVL 6 Mortars, 2 LVL 5 Mortars
LVL 5 CC
3 LVL 2 teslas, 1 LVL 1 Tesla (Really need to get on these upgrades at some point)

just browsed through it, don't drop the thread, keep it running, GL with the haters, I also did something similar with a thread on my max TH8 vs my premmie TH9 except the results are out already, I won't say anymore though, let your own experiences decide your thoughts on rushing without me being any influence :)

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Originally Posted by CrashJD

As of 2/2/2015 these are where my two bases are at and the conditions under which I will upgrade them to TH10.

Main Account:
TH9 Level 111 Max Defense
GG=417mil
EE=413mil
HH=2.2mil
Heroes= Lvl 17 king and Lvl 14 queen
Walls = 193 Skulls, 57 Legos

I have spent most of my time doing Balloonian in Crystal and Masters League which accounts for high HH vs. Gold and Elixir. Or at least it seems that way.

Conditions for Upgrade = Both heroes at Lvl 30 and Lava Walls. I think the walls will end up being harder than the heroes but we shall see.

Mini Account:
TH9 Level 76
Most of my Defense is Max th7 with a few maxed at max th8 levels. (otherwise it is pretty pathetic)
GG=129 mil
EE=126 mil
HH=340k
Heroes=Level 10 Barb King and Lvl 2 Queen
Walls = 59 Level 6, 175 Level 7, Only 16 Skulls

I have had this account for maybe 8 months and my other account for about 18 months, but I am a casual player with occasional boosting if I need to trophy push or get enough gold or elixir for an upgrade. I never spend money on gems just get achievements and clear out obstacles.

Conditions for Upgrade = Lvl 6 Barch, Lvl 6 Loons with Lvl 5 Minions for Balloonian, Lvl 2 Lava Hounds which looks like it will take 63 days cause my minions are only at lvl 2. :/

I will do all the new defense upgrades but will leave them all at lvl1 including xbows.

I will spend most of my builder time on camps, SF, Lab, DE Drills, DE Storage for certain, queen upgrades, and probably LVL 12 mines and collectors if I can fit it in.

I will dump all excess gold into walls which should be a lot since I have so many elixir upgrades to do.

That is about all I can think of right now. If I think of more I will update this page or add it to My Experience page.

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Like your idea...but i believe there's something you are doing wrong on your rushed TH9 account... maybe you focus too much on defense upgrades, rushers focus on offenses upgrades. I am a casual farmer... my 4-5 months old account already has lv12 AQ & lv10 BK and it's doing nonstop cw since TH1.

A TH 10 even with crappy defenses but with a single baby (level 1) IT can be more than enough to deter if not fry giant healer armies, while we can't say the same thing of TH 9 as that's always a snack. :)

There are pros and cons on rushing, and I'm sure if you take the time to look for them on the forum you would most likely find them scattered around, but at the same time an experiment like yours sounds interesting.

I rushed my Jr. account to TH 8 and got to a point where started to play on it as well and started maxing out stuff. Now I'm left with walls and I'm done lol

Rushing to th10 isn't bad- I went with heroes in the low teens, half legos and max defenses. The loot at 10 isn't terrible like most say, so I think your mini won't have too much of a problem. Good luck and great thread idea!

loot is better at TH10 once you can farm in the masters without using heroes or spells. Same amount of gold/elixir and like 3x more DE. Don't even have to try and farm DE, I have both of my heroes in the low teens on my rushed account upgrading none stop and still max DE before they finish.

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Originally Posted by Morgauth

loot is better at TH10 once you can farm in the masters without using heroes or spells. Same amount of gold/elixir and like 3x more DE. Don't even have to try and farm DE, I have both of my heroes in the low teens on my rushed account upgrading none stop and still max DE before they finish.

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Whats your main farming comps? All Loonion, or also Barch/Bam?

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Originally Posted by Jonra

Whats your main farming comps? All Loonion, or also Barch/Bam?

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all archers now, i'll try barch once barbs are lv7.

Now I only rushed once, and it was not really intentional, but it was horrible and I am never doing it again.

I was a maxed TH7 other than walls. I had just made enough gold to go to TH8 and so I started the upgrade. Shortly after, the "boost your collectors for a full week for 1 gem" deal came out, so I bought a week long shield and boosted ally collectors. By the time my TH8 upgrade finished, I made enough gold just from boosting to instantly upgrade to TH9 after the TH8 upgrade finished. So I did, like a fool.

By the time the upgrade was finished, I hadn't really upgraded any defenses or troops since TH7. I was a TH9 sitting on max TH7 defenses and troops. I couldn't defend against anything. I couldn't attack anything. The only way I could reliably make money was collectors, and that was painfully slow.

I've gotten my base pretty strong now, so I'm making progress, but the hellish timeframe from when I just upgraded to TH9 to now was horrible.

Moral of the story: if you find yourself with enough gold up upgrade your TH after it just finished upgrading, don't.

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Originally Posted by ForgiveMeNot

Like your idea...but i believe there's something you are doing wrong on your rushed TH9 account... maybe you focus too much on defense upgrades, rushers focus on offenses upgrades. I am a casual farmer... my 4-5 months old account already has lv12 AQ & lv10 BK and it's doing nonstop cw since TH1.

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Your post reply doesn't make sense. I never said I would focus on defense upgrades. Here is my exact sentence.

"I will do all the new defense upgrades but will leave them all at lvl1 including xbows."

New defense upgrades at TH9 include a wizard tower, an air defense, an archer tower, and the two xbows. I did the first 3 and they are still sitting at lvl 1 as I said. The first xbow is building and I will be building the second xbow soon and it will be done. Literally no other defense upgrades will happen until th10. Its extremely rushed on the defense side of things.

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Originally Posted by Morgauth

all archers now, i'll try barch once barbs are lv7.

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Thanks for commenting Morgauth. I have read your rushing thread and it is definitely informative.

I agree I have been a long time BAM'er but I am pretty sold on Barch only now. I follow Ash's guide too and I still use a few minions just to snag really hard to get to DE like he does.

Jonra I really am only upgrading balloons and minions and lava hound for war and pushing, not for farming.

Queen just hit LVL 5!!!

I get mostly town hall snipes unless I am sitting on tons of loot. Just had someone do a GiWiWi on me with both heroes and only got 74%!

Camps are done, Lab is done, SF almost done. First xbow done, second xbow almost done.

After seeing how my lvl 5 mortars didnt one shot skeletons I decided to get my last two lvl 5 mortars up to lvl 6. (I already have two lvl 6 mortars). I need to one shot those lvl 6 archers too.

Other than the mortars I am focusing on upgrading my DE pumps. Already have one going to lvl 4. And I will upgrade my Dark Barracks to Lvl 5 next and eventually to LVL 6 for those hound dogs.

I also need to get my elixir storage up to max cause I was stealing a lot of elixir when I was capped at 6mil.

All my mines and collectors are level 11 and need to go to lvl 12 too. And as always I am dumping almost all my gold into walls. I have all purple walls now plus about 30 skull walls I believe. I will do more wall updates soon as my mortars get done and I can dump 100% of my gold into walls.

Cheers!

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Originally Posted by CrashJD

Jonra I really am only upgrading balloons and minions and lava hound for war and pushing, not for farming.

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Yeah that's what I do as well :), I was actually talking to Morgauth(sorry for doing it in your thread, lol), but it's good to know there's another smart rusher out there. Wish we could get our own Sub forum...

Dropped some trophies to farm more elixir. I need so much it's crazy!!!

Level 6 Balloons have only 4 days left. I decided to do those first then level 6 archers is next.

Last xbow will be done in 2 days.

I already finished one de drill to 4 and the other has 3 days left.

Started lvl 5 Dark Barracks upgrade with 4 days left.

Queen will be lvl 6 in 12 hours. Woot Woot!

I figured out that I don't raid enough to quite keep enough builders on elixir only upgrades. Plus I need to save up another 6 million elixir in 4 days to get my archers to lvl 6. Sooo I will start doing my final two mortar upgrades soon. Also will focus on storages and mines and collectors till I can hit the archer upgrade, then I will continue doing the drill upgrades and final dark barracks upgrade to lvl 6 for the hound!!! Should be another two weeks before I unleash the lava hound. Can't Wait!

Quite an interesting experiment. I was thinking of doing a mini account for similar purposes and some other reasons as my account is onto lavas and heroes now.

Any updates on the non-rushed TH9 because I see most of the updates are for the rushed TH9. It would be interesting to see defence logs of both accounts to see which base attracts what kind of attacks more.

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Originally Posted by JKL2207

Quite an interesting experiment. I was thinking of doing a mini account for similar purposes and some other reasons as my account is onto lavas and heroes now.

Any updates on the non-rushed TH9 because I see most of the updates are for the rushed TH9. It would be interesting to see defence logs of both accounts to see which base attracts what kind of attacks more.

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Things are wayyyy too slow on my non rushed account to have much to update. I keep adding a few lego walls. My king just hit 18.

My non rushed stays in high crystal or masters league so as far as defenses go I have a couple weeks worth of TH snipes cause I keep no loot except DE.

My rushed account was getting slammed in crystal 3 so I went down to gold 1 and gold 2. So far I have gotten a lot of th snipes now too.

Again I mostly do balloonian a few times a day on my non rushed so I almost barely play on that account.

Ill start taking a few screen shots here soon....