Using hero abilities in defenses

Hiya guys :D

So do you ever watch back your defenses and look at the odds? Often they're against you, aren't they? Like someone attacks to for loot and you lose like 300k of everything... yeah, it sucks, doesn't it? Well, this isn't and will probably be nowhere near​ enough to be a massive game changer, but what if your heroes could use their abilities in defenses?

It would have to be set up so you could specifically set when your hero used their ability, so like they would use it as soon as they saw an enemy, or if the hero/enemy got to a certain part of the base, or if their health went down to a certain level, etc., and you would have to pay dark elixir or something in order to reset it before each defense, just like a trap. That, or (thanks to the new live replay on the defenses) you can only be allowed to use it if you are watching your said defense live. That way people can't use it to a massive advantage.

Like I said, it may or may not be a game changer depending on your hero's level/base position, but it could be useful. I mean, heroes have their ability for a reason, right? Then what better another reason to use it? They would also have to be level 5 in order to use it general, because.. well.. you can't use abilities until you get them to level 5... )_)

So yeah, let me know what you think. It's nothing too special but it might make the game a bit more interesting. :O

Too OP, max heroes spawn an entire cc by themselves, and a queen would be killing golems like nothing.Even if the effect was mitigated it would still be unnecessary and too erratic.

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Originally Posted by cjhrjone54

Hiya guys :D

So do you ever watch back your defenses and look at the odds? Often they're against you, aren't they? Like someone attacks to for loot and you lose like 300k of everything... yeah, it sucks, doesn't it? Well, this isn't and will probably be nowhere near​ enough to be a massive game changer, but what if your heroes could use their abilities in defenses?

It would have to be set up so you could specifically set when your hero used their ability, so like they would use it as soon as they saw an enemy, or if the hero/enemy got to a certain part of the base, or if their health went down to a certain level, etc., and you would have to pay dark elixir or something in order to reset it before each defense, just like a trap. That, or (thanks to the new live replay on the defenses) you can only be allowed to use it if you are watching your said defense live. That way people can't use it to a massive advantage.

Like I said, it may or may not be a game changer depending on your hero's level/base position, but it could be useful. I mean, heroes have their ability for a reason, right? Then what better another reason to use it? They would also have to be level 5 in order to use it general, because.. well.. you can't use abilities until you get them to level 5... )_)

So yeah, let me know what you think. It's nothing too special but it might make the game a bit more interesting. :O

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I get where you're coming from.

Hero health bonuses being attached to ability came at the same time as stopping heroes from being lured to the corner and murdered brutally by a mob of barch. The effect of putting health into the ability allowed the heroes to have more health on attack than defence. My take on it is that that was essential to maintain balance so unlurable heroes not being completely OP.

You can't really trigger it in a "live" replay, because of lag - have you noticed that at the end of the raid you can head back to base a few seconds before the raid ends? That delay means your heroes are probably dead before you trigger the ability. Same issue goes for spells. Also remember the lag goes both ways, not just from their end to yours, but also for the response to get back to their game - so it's doubled till it has an effect on the attacker's game - and then there's lag till you see the effect (during which time I imagine you might mash out the rest of your own spells in frustration).

Anyway, I guess my response is simply no, not going to happen.

Ok, well I get where you guys are coming from, but you're kinda coming back on yourself there. You say heroes would be too OP to use their abilities on defense, so you're basically saying heroes are too OP in attack as well? Well, let's face it; they are. Not that I have anything against heroes; hell no, they were a massive game changer when they were first introduced. But if you say they'd be too OP in defense then you're basically admitting they're too OP in attacks as well.

Let's look at it this way. I just watched an attack in cian wars against my base, and the guy got 1 star. So effectively I won because he got such a minimal amount of stars, but the reason I'm bringing this up is because my BK is level 8, and my attacker's was level 15. And then with the added ability bonuses, you can pretty much guess which BK won. It definitely wasn't mine.

So, I propose that instead of using the hero's abilities against other minor troops, how about they can only use them if another hero attacks them? That way it would even the playing field majorly and give our heroes a bit more of a fighting chance when we are clearly outmatched. OP for OP.

Just think about what you said, about heroes being too OP on defense, compared to what I said. Then get back to me. It all adds up.

What we could do is have the heros abilities activate @ a set percentage of health, to balance this out would be either more hero levels or cheaper and faster hero upgrades, or even both

This said I realize this would make MASSIVE changes to both base layout and attack stratagies. But you have to realize the SAME THING happened when they turned the king into a tank and had the queen a demolition expert along with both not being lured to the corners. But hey, In hindsight this is a CONSTANTLY EVOLVING game with new people starting accounts EVERYDAY and even old clashers that want a fresh start and have multiple accounts. In the end this game, if we're still into it, will be completely UNRECONIZABLE in a few years, just compare now to when Clash was a brand new game that no one knew all the tricks and loopholes. They. Are. Different. Who knows, one day people will be talking about the Town Hall 20 or the first person to get 10,000 trophies, or new leauges, maybe even a new loot type. This game is almost a new culture with all the slang, terms, and abbreviations. This is a game that has formed friendships and enemies, and quite honestly i belive that two people who can't spe the same language and have no real way to communicate could become friends if one of them pulled up Clash. It has probably already happened, so whoever thinks that something is off the table or won't ever happen, remember no one 'thought' that Religeion would cause so much strife, no one 'thought' we would put a human on the Moon, we just said "Why not?", so why not have a Goblin Prince or a Giant Duke, why not.......
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Ive looked too far into this havent i.

I love the idea I feel like it would be a nightmare to balance tho

Just code the game so the abilities trigger automatically when the hero hits 50% health. I have mentioned this in clan chat and many agree it is a good idea.

But wouldn't this basically just cancel out Heros on attack?