Allow multiple boosting rates

I checked the list and don't think I saw this anywhere. But has anyone ever suggested different boosting rates? As an example, at my heroes current level I can train 2 full raids from the barracks in the time it takes the heroes to fully recover. But the only boosting option is 4 times recovery rate. Which means if I boost half the time my heroes will be standing around waiting for troops to finish. This obviously varies with the level/heal time of the hero. That's further to my point though, since we all have different level heroes and different troop raid makeup, it would make sense to have multiple rates of boosting with corresponding gem costs to accommodate different needs. To anticipate a rebuttal, to those that would say "boost barracks as well", barracks boosting also is only offered at one rate ... the same rate heroes boosting is. So boosting barracks would leave me in the same position I was in before I boosted: 2 full raid armies in the time of 1 full hero recovery.

Now, I know what you SC folks are thinking ... "We want you to pay more gems than necessary ... that's how we can pay our employees". But think about the possibilities. You could also offer higher rates for people to use more gems. For example ... I want to boost my lvl 6 drills at 4 times the rate instead of 2. Normally it's 30 gems a drill. If I wanted to boost it 4 times though charge exponentially more ... like 300 gems. I'm sure you have experts at in-game currency balancing, but just using the example to highlight the possibilities.

Just to recap in case the above is too obtuse:
Request multiple boosting rates, i.e.
Reduce hero heal time x 2 for 2 hours: 5 gems
Reduce hero heal time x 4 for 2 hours: 10 gems
Reduce hero heal time x 8 for 2 hours: 50 gems

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Originally Posted by Bluto152

I checked the list and don't think I saw this anywhere. But has anyone ever suggested different boosting rates? As an example, at my heroes current level I can train 2 full raids from the barracks in the time it takes the heroes to fully recover. But the only boosting option is 4 times recovery rate. Which means if I boost half the time my heroes will be standing around waiting for troops to finish. This obviously varies with the level/heal time of the hero. That's further to my point though, since we all have different level heroes and different troop raid makeup, it would make sense to have multiple rates of boosting with corresponding gem costs to accomadate different needs.

Now, I know what you SC folks are thinking ... "We want you to pay more gems than necessary ... that's how we can pay our employees". But think about the possibilities. You could also offer higher rates for people to use more gems. For example ... I want to boost my lvl 6 drills at 4 times the rate instead of 2. Normally it's 30 gems a drill. If I wanted to boost it 4 times though charge exponentially more ... like 300 gems. I'm sure you have experts at in-game currency balancing, but just using the example to highlight the possibilities.

Just to recap in case the above is too obtuse:
Request multiple boosting rates, i.e.
Reduce hero heal time x 2 for 2 hours: 5 gems
Reduce hero heal time x 4 for 2 hours: 10 gems
Reduce hero heal time x 8 for 2 hours: 50 gems

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Its different, but i think it would cause the rift between players who buy gems, and people who collect gems would grow even larger. Currently gemmers are obviously on top, by allowing them to constantly boost Bx and Spells/Heroes. Gem Collectors don't have that luxury unless its a 1-gem Boost


I Like the idea actually, but realistically it would just cause a schism between players more so than it is now. THere might be an increase in Gem Sales, obviously. Especially at higher levels where more aged players have the patience to get to that high of Th levels and where they need the boosting to go raid every 20-30 minutes w/ spells rather than every 4 hours.

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Originally Posted by Bluto152

I checked the list and don't think I saw this anywhere. But has anyone ever suggested different boosting rates? As an example, at my heroes current level I can train 2 full raids from the barracks in the time it takes the heroes to fully recover. But the only boosting option is 4 times recovery rate. Which means if I boost half the time my heroes will be standing around waiting for troops to finish. This obviously varies with the level/heal time of the hero. That's further to my point though, since we all have different level heroes and different troop raid makeup, it would make sense to have multiple rates of boosting with corresponding gem costs to accommodate different needs. To anticipate a rebuttal, to those that would say "boost barracks as well", barracks boosting also is only offered at one rate ... the same rate heroes boosting is. So boosting barracks would leave me in the same position I was in before I boosted: 2 full raid armies in the time of 1 full hero recovery.

Now, I know what you SC folks are thinking ... "We want you to pay more gems than necessary ... that's how we can pay our employees". But think about the possibilities. You could also offer higher rates for people to use more gems. For example ... I want to boost my lvl 6 drills at 4 times the rate instead of 2. Normally it's 30 gems a drill. If I wanted to boost it 4 times though charge exponentially more ... like 300 gems. I'm sure you have experts at in-game currency balancing, but just using the example to highlight the possibilities.

Just to recap in case the above is too obtuse:
Request multiple boosting rates, i.e.
Reduce hero heal time x 2 for 2 hours: 5 gems
Reduce hero heal time x 4 for 2 hours: 10 gems
Reduce hero heal time x 8 for 2 hours: 50 gems

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2times 2 gems
speed 2 times its just +1
soeed 4 times its + 3 so if a + 3 cost 10 gem + 1 should cost 2-3 gem

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Originally Posted by HiFliya

Its different, but i think it would cause the rift between players who buy gems, and people who collect gems would grow even larger. Currently gemmers are obviously on top, by allowing them to constantly boost Bx and Spells/Heroes. Gem Collectors don't have that luxury unless its a 1-gem Boost


I Like the idea actually, but realistically it would just cause a schism between players more so than it is now. THere might be an increase in Gem Sales, obviously. Especially at higher levels where more aged players have the patience to get to that high of Th levels and where they need the boosting to go raid every 20-30 minutes w/ spells rather than every 4 hours.

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From my experience, I don't see a schism or a potential for one. At least one that would affect gameplay. That's not to say one doesn't exist, but I imagine those that gem tend to congregate with others that do so in clans thereby facing clans in war that also do so. But point received. Maybe there's a workaround to mitigate it.

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Originally Posted by AlvinSoehendryWijaya

2times 2 gems
speed 2 times its just +1
soeed 4 times its + 3 so if a + 3 cost 10 gem + 1 should cost 2-3 gem

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The exact gem count I posted was just used to illustrate the request. Obviously it should be whatever is fair/makes sense.

EDIT: but actually I stick by the gem counts I posted. If it were 2 gems it would be too cheap and people would boost all the time. It would also make the 1 gem boost specials meaningless.

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Originally Posted by Bluto152

From my experience, I don't see a schism or a potential for one. At least one that would affect gameplay. That's not to say one doesn't exist, but I imagine those that gem tend to congregate with others that do so in clans thereby facing clans in war that also do so. But point received. Maybe there's a workaround to mitigate it.

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So I thought about this, and think it's a non-issue/manageable. If a gem "collector" is low lvl, they're likely not taking advantage of this anyway, since every gem is being saved for that next builder's hut. So really this is just beneficial in expanding choices for the paying customers and/or high level TH's (loyal customers). Don't see a downside for SC. Those that gem EXCLUSIVELY are just buying loot packages anyway and not boosting at all. So SC's bottom line shouldnt be affected. And those players will have the schism with the grinders regardless.

There are instances when I would absolutely use the higher rate of boost ... if say I need de fast to prevent a cold lab and therefore need troops with longer cook times. And I absolutely would boost much more frequently if boosting heroes was 5 gems instead of 10 and it lined up the regen times with troop training times. The more frequent boosting would be a net gain for SC. And at 5 gems it still is a big enough difference from the 1 gem boost specials to where those would be desirable/serve their purpose.

AND ... as anyone who works in marketing could tell you ... making the cost of something $9.99 vs. $10.00 is materially insignificant but highly effective psychologically. Players would believe they were being smart by choosing the lower rate, but in doing so more frequently would in fact be spending more.

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Originally Posted by Bluto152

The exact gem count I posted was just used to illustrate the request. Obviously it should be whatever is fair/makes sense.

EDIT: but actually I stick by the gem counts I posted. If it were 2 gems it would be too cheap and people would boost all the time. It would also make the 1 gem boost specials meaningless.

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A 2x boosted barracks is like having 1 extra barracks. A 4x boosted barracks is like having 3 extra barracks. So the 4x boost should cost AT LEAST 3x as much as a 2x boosted barracks. By that logic, if a 4x boosted barracks costs 10 gems, then a 2x boosted barracks should cost AT MOST 3 gems.

At 5 gems a pop to boost a barracks 2x, it would be cheaper to boost one barracks 4x for 10 gems, than to boost 3 barracks 2x for a total of 15 gems, to get the same overall boost. See?

3 gems for 2x boost barracks is the way to go. I think 2 gems is too little. Edit: barracks, spell factory, hero. Not the collectors.

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Originally Posted by Xitra

A 2x boosted barracks is like having 1 extra barracks. A 4x boosted barracks is like having 3 extra barracks. So the 4x boost should cost AT LEAST 3x as much as a 2x boosted barracks. By that logic, if a 4x boosted barracks costs 10 gems, then a 2x boosted barracks should cost AT MOST 3 gems.

At 5 gems a pop to boost a barracks 2x, it would be cheaper to boost one barracks 4x for 10 gems, than to boost 3 barracks 2x for a total of 15 gems, to get the same overall boost. See?

3 gems for 3x boost barracks is the way to go. I think 2 gems is too little.

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This all assumes that gemming is linear in cost to benefit ratio, when in fact there's a curve. Anyone that's gemmed hogs knows that 2 hogs = 1 gem, but 4 hogs = 3. What SC has determined gems should get you is likely informed by an accountant who has analyzed player spending habits to incentivize desirable behavior. At 5 gems, as noted, it would still be enough to force players to have some skin in the game and wouldn't make the 1 gem boost specials meaningless. Obviously whatever SC determines the right price to be is fine with me. Just looking for choices.

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Originally Posted by Bluto152

This all assumes that gemming is linear in cost to benefit ratio, when in fact there's a curve. Anyone that's gemmed hogs knows that 2 hogs = 1 gem, but 4 hogs = 3. What SC has determined gems should get you is likely informed by an accountant who has analyzed player spending habits to incentivize desirable behavior. At 5 gems, as noted, it would still be enough to force players to have some skin in the game and wouldn't make the 1 gem boost specials meaningless. Obviously whatever SC determines the right price to be is fine with me. Just looking for choices.

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Whoever gem 4 hog for 3 gem is an idiot
why not gemmed 2 hog 2 times
and i think it should be at most 3 gem for x2 barrack
for x 3 maybe 5 is good

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Originally Posted by AlvinSoehendryWijaya

Whoever gem 4 hog for 3 gem is an idiotwhy not gemmed 2 hog 2 timesand i think it should be at most 3 gem for x2 barrackfor x 3 maybe 5 is good

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While I appreciate the enthusiasm for defining the price point, I'm not endeavoring to dictate SC's business model and dont want to get hung up on that. Just looking for whether the idea of multiple rates is attractive to other players or not. I'm assuming you agree that there should be options.