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lately, the leader is kicking out some members from the clan that don't want a war, but they want to stay and watch , and some are the loyal ones that can't be kicked out for good but they want to take a break so the leader kick them out and after declaring a war her send them invites to get back to the clan. The point is, there should be a new option for the leader which is that he can select the players that wants to enter the war without kicking out the players that doesn't want one.
I see where you are coming from. As a leader of a quite successful clan I run into these same problems. Well, I wouldn't even call it a problem. I would call it an inconvenience. I have heard of this idea before but have not read up on it so I am not sure whether this would ever happen or not.
Anyhow, good post. I hope this idea somehow becomes a popular vote.
Happy Clashing:)
War opting would be a very simple and efficient option for players who don't want in on war. Players could simply press a button on their profile, or something, that asks them if they would prefer in our out of war. As a leader, im slightly tired of kicking out 20 of my members so I can get a war that's 15-15. This would be a fantastic feature.
I believe that while a Opt-out button is necessary, Leaders should never have this power. Leave it to the member in question to choose whether or not they want to war. If a leader had that power, it would lead to loads of Abuse reports etc etc.
Also, theres a link in my sig for SC's response to the idea
Wow, I've seen this requested a lot in the last few months, and I didn't realize there was an official response. Glad to see it's not a technical issue, just a game design issue. I see where they're coming from.Quote:
Originally Posted by HiFliya
I'm sure with enough creative suggestions, someone might hit the mark with an idea that Supercell says, "Hey, that's exactly how to do it!" And maybe looking at their official post will give us a starting point for brainstorming those creative suggestions!
I am agreeing again and again.... So I'm just going to copy paste.
From my thread (http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...pt-In-Out-Poll)
Reasons
The main reason is, as stated above, because people don't want to kick people and invite them just so they can opt outon war. While that is a solution, it has some consequences, including misunderstandings, drama (omg, you kicked me out so that I wouldn't be in war) and loss of donation statistics.
Some might argue that if one does not wish to participate in war, one must simply join a clan that does not participate in war. The reason this is not true for many people is that those who care about being able to opt out are more likely to be loyal members, or at least friends with many. Leaving as a group is not a solution either since the group of friends would still be split between warring and not warring. Splitting the group results in the splitting of friends, which lowers the amount of motivations to keep playing CoC. If sister/feeder clans been implemented, that would be a long workwaround that could still be flawed.
There is another reason that this is suggested, which is that players will still "have a life" outside of CoC. This includes vacations, examinations, business trips, blackouts (+and other force majuere disasters) in the residence of one player which doesn't affect the others physically etc.. Thus, some players would only opt out some times and return to war actively.
From http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-option-button
"Originally Posted by SuperSteve[Supercell] In thread:http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-option-button
Hey Guys,
We've talked A LOT about adding an opt-out feature in Clan Wars and it's not currently in the cards. At this point, we just haven't found the right solution that fits Clash how it should.
We always try to avoid unnecessary complexity in our feature design and strive for features that work consistently and simply for all players. Some players would be thrilled with an opt-out system, but others would prefer things like opt-in, leader-chooses, variable team sizes, or other solutions. Also, letting players pick-and-choose what components of their clan experience they participate in is not a design philosophy we support. When you're in a clan, you should all be in it together! Even further, implementing a system that can enable undue pressure on players ("Opt out or we'll kick you" or "Give me Crab Claws or you can't come to war with us") falls far short of this mark.
That being said, we're in favor of adding more control and meaningful direction to Clan Wars. When we look into the next batch of Clan Wars features, that will be the time to reconsider things like opt-out systems, and possibly come up with better solutions that encourage everyone in their Clan to stick together and participate no matter what. We'll see what happens!
We'll keep tabs on any feedback and ideas you guys come up with for future Clan Wars improvements. Keep the feedback coming.
Cheers,
Steve
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from the same thread as above
From my experience in CoC (not just me, but also my clanmates), I'm going to added to the list [of stuff that people have given to say why the don't want it but need it] at the end of the post.
"They spoke of fractured clans, lost members", lost friends, stress that may have led to GPA loss (hence less chance for college and all that nonsense), lots of drama, rebellions within clans, inter-clan drama/rivalry and family problems of all sorts including, but not limited to, parent/child and siblings.
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A recent poll in General (http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...he-Next-Update)
War Opt in/out is the second most wanted feature after Quests from the list of features on the poll (which covers most populate requests IMO).
188 people have voted for War Opt In/Out at the last time I checked (January 31st).
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The response mentioned by HiFliya is posted here for easy reference.
I think it should be the Leader's power because if he opts everyone out that's his loss and if someone gets opted out all the time then he can just.... I'm not sure about it being the co's power because that could lead to abuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by HiFliya
Well well well, this is the first time I heard of this idea
Think about what happens in sport, in football or soccer the leader has the power to decide the players of every match, being a member of a team does not mean that you will always play, this concept could be introduced also in CoC, maybe if a soccer player get sick is fired and called back after ?! :P
You will get your wish, here is SC's official response making a clear statement what they are planning. (and ever since they did this you have seen things from this list in every release including the most current so items on the list not out yet will be in future releases.)
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Originally Posted by Marika[Supercell]
Also I agree with both of you here...
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Originally Posted by BobLovesCW
And here is a suggested approach...Quote:
Originally Posted by Becio
How it should work...
There should be a button (it can be a new one or the war shield can be modified) that toggles a player as in or out.
Access to hit the button to toggle should go to the leader and the player in question.
---- individual players cannot opt each other in or out
---- its an argument either way to give it to co as well - Good for clans where co is a management job, bad for clans that give it out like candy. (I consider the latter to be a sign of a bad leader)
---- A leader who abuses authority to opt guys in against their wishes are really just hurting their own selves for how they are adding a risk to their war participation. (the guy might then just not attack anyhow, if not seeing eye to eye with leader he wont care)
---- A leader opting a guy out against his wishes has that prerogative to decide who he wants in his war. And its still nicer than just kicking the guy like happens now.
The status of a player is only a factor right at the time a war starts. Instead of just selecting all eligible players from the total population it will just be all eligible players from the opted in group.
---- Can even implement by leveraging the existing eligibility functionality that currently is only driven by a timer.
After that everything works the same. The list of warriors from the clan is rounded to an even 5 via the existing logic and then the matchmaking calculation takes place also using the existing logic.
A player joins a clan with his eligibility set the same way it is today. (He is in unless there is a timer)
Things that would not happen -
...A player cannot add themselves to a war after the fact. If they change their status during a war it makes no difference until the next war when that status is read at startup.
...This would not serve as a way to replace members that take off during war. if they do that then there is the same affect on the war as there is today. Unused attacks stay unused. (it will never change that this just stinks when guys pull that stunt)
Reading with interest where official response is that this would not support desired c goals ... And finding it very difficult to comprehend...
Yes, this ability COULD be abused... But the consequence of that would be that people would leave such a clan.
Presently, there is an "all or nothing" mindset to this game... Either I am fully invested or not... And while coc may be popular, there is a LARGE group of people who are opting for " nothing" because "all" is not fitting into their life very well.
This power gives a clan flexibility and creates potential for larger, social clans.
Leader vs Co is minor issue... I'd vote for Co too, but we pick Cos who are responsible and I know that isn't universal
Coc Management needs to realize that there is an opportunity to get people back to the game if they and leader have flexibility of this type... NOTHING you can do would impact this game more... And clearly it is desired and overdue...
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Originally Posted by UchihaYehya
Happy to read this idea has been brought back from the dead. Leader should absolutely have the ability to opt players out. After all- its the leader you talk to when you're excusing yourself from war.
Here's one more with his hand in the air voting yes to this idea :p