TH 9 and 10 Balance Please

My suggestion is to move at least the first 2 levels of the freeze spell to town hall 9 and maybe even the jump spell to town hall 8 since you don't unlock any new spells at that level either. My reasoning behind this is the balance between town hall 9 and 10 seems a bit off to me. Before 9 and 10 you can upgrade your troops and easily attack a higher level town hall and get 3 stars. For instance a town hall 7 can lightning an air defense of a town hall 8 and easily get 3 stars with dragons. There seems to be no such possible strategy for a town hall 9 against a single higher level town hall 10. This is because both the inferno tower and the freeze spell are unlocked at the same time with the freeze spell being the single biggest weapon against the mighty inferno towers. This simple change would make a huge difference for myself and those other town hall 9's out there struggling to get loot and trophies from bases only a single level above us.

Thank you for your time and consideration and I hope to get some feedback from the community.

Clash on!

Chief Crazy

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Originally Posted by dbut87

The balance between town hall 9 and 10 seems a bit off to me. Before 9 and 10 you can upgrade your troops and easily attack a higher level town hall and get 3 stars. For instance a town hall 7 can lightning an air defense of a town hall 8 and easily get 3 stars with dragons. There seems to be no such possible strategy for a town hall 9 against a single higher level town hall 10. This is because both the inferno tower and the freeze spell are unlocked at the same time with the freeze spell being the single biggest weapon against the mighty inferno towers. My suggestion is to move at least the first 2 levels of the freeze spell to town hall 9 and maybe even the jump spell to town hall 8 since you don't unlock any new spells at that level either. This simple change would make a huge difference for myself and those other town hall 9's out there struggling to get loot and trophies from bases only a single level above us.

Thank you for your time and consideration and I hope to get some feedback from the community.

Clash on!

Chief Crazy

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That's kind of the point. It rewards you for spending billions of loot. If you just wasted a billion plus loot just to max a town hall, would you like to be easily three starred by the lower town halls under you? NO!

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Originally Posted by Ltrout99

That's kind of the point. It rewards you for spending billions of loot. If you just wasted a billion plus loot just to max a town hall, would you like to be easily three starred by the lower town halls under you? NO!

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The 4 million gold required to upgrade to town hall 10 is less than the loot required to upgrade a single archer tower from 10 to 11 which also can be done at town hall 9. I don't quite see your point.

I think your concern is valid, however, Town Hall 9's weren't necessarily designed to be able to 3 star Town Hall 10 bases, because there would be no point in going to Town Hall 10. I've been Town Hall 9 for awhile now and I find plenty of loot available in the Gold-2 and 1 Range. A well-upgraded army of a Town Hall 9 can easily 2 star a Town Hall 10. Changing the strength of Town Hall 9 in any way right now would make it a very overpowered Town Hall and would provide little to no incentive to move to Town Hall 10. I think that there needs to be some tweaking as far as troop levels go at Town Hall 9, but right now you can max out a decent amount of your troops and spells and still do tons of damage to those below, at, and above you in Town Hall level.

Like I said, I'm not taking a ♥♥♥♥ on your suggestion, I'm just saying that it wouldn't be possible considering Town Hall 9 is already powerful enough to take out Town Hall 10's. Most TH10's can't even 3 star another TH10, so a TH9 being able to do it would cause a major imbalance.

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Originally Posted by JeremyIsKing

I think your concern is valid, however, Town Hall 9's weren't necessarily designed to be able to 3 star Town Hall 10 bases, because there would be no point in going to Town Hall 10. I've been Town Hall 9 for awhile now and I find plenty of loot available in the Gold-2 and 1 Range. A well-upgraded army of a Town Hall 9 can easily 2 star a Town Hall 10. Changing the strength of Town Hall 9 in any way right now would make it a very overpowered Town Hall and would provide little to no incentive to move to Town Hall 10. I think that there needs to be some tweaking as far as troop levels go at Town Hall 9, but right now you can max out a decent amount of your troops and spells and still do tons of damage to those below, at, and above you in Town Hall level.

Like I said, I'm not taking a ♥♥♥♥ on your suggestion, I'm just saying that it wouldn't be possible considering Town Hall 9 is already powerful enough to take out Town Hall 10's. Most TH10's can't even 3 star another TH10, so a TH9 being able to do it would cause a major imbalance.

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With the inferno towers still being unlocked at town hall 10 there would definitely be an incentive. My concern leans more toward trophy progression rather than loot. I teeter between crystal and master and most bases are well developed town hall 10's with inferno towers buried in their bases. I'm not sure what kind of town hall 10's you're raiding in the gold range (no offense :D) but it gets very difficult to even keep my trophy count up once I get to master between behind attacked and not being able to attack without the handiness of the freeze spell for inferno towers.

If TH10 is so unbalanced, why don't you upgrade immediately?

The answer of course is the loot penalty. Thus, upgrading your TH represents a tradeoff. You get access to much better troops and defenses, but you also lose the ability to profit from weaker opponents. With that in mind, how does your proposition make sense? How is it fair?

Why should a TH9 benefit from both being able to attack TH8s with a minimal penalty and also have the ability to easily take on TH10s who have given up that ability in exchange for more powerful stuff?

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Originally Posted by dbut87

The 4 million gold required to upgrade to town hall 10 is less than the loot required to upgrade a single archer tower from 10 to 11 which also can be done at town hall 9. I don't quite see your point.

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I'm meaning maxing th9/th10. It costs billions.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

If TH10 is so unbalanced, why don't you upgrade immediately?

The answer of course is the loot penalty. Thus, upgrading your TH represents a tradeoff. You get access to much better troops and defenses, but you also lose the ability to profit from weaker opponents. With that in mind, how does your proposition make sense? How is it fair?

Why should a TH9 benefit from both being able to attack TH8s with a minimal penalty and also have the ability to easily take on TH10s who have given up that ability in exchange for more powerful stuff?

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Town hall 9's don't benefit from attacking a town hall 8. They receive a penalty of 10%. My point is up until town hall 9 you can attack the town hall above you with a decent strategy and do well. There is no strategy against inferno towers other than the freeze spell but it is unlocked at the same town hall as the inferno towers themselves.

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Originally Posted by dbut87

Town hall 9's don't benefit from attacking a town hall 8. They receive a penalty of 10%. My point is up until town hall 9 you can attack the town hall above you with a decent strategy and do well. There is no strategy against inferno towers other than the freeze spell but it is unlocked at the same town hall as the inferno towers themselves.

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You didn't answer why people who have an issue with this simply don't hop right to TH10.

A penalty of 10% is quite a bit lower than a penalty of 50%. Enough where in fact at TH10 it's not really profitable to attack TH8s unless they have an extremely large amount of loot. Surely this doesn't require explanation right?

Before TH9 the penalty is a non issue. Sure you're affected by it, but it's not really noticeable. It's not like TH6s have that much loot compared to TH7s anyway. Your capacity to gather loot increases at each TH.

This changes at TH9, making TH9 the first TH that really forces you to choose between upgrading or not due to penalty considerations. It worsens even more at TH10. In addition your "nexting" costs go up substantially.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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Originally Posted by dbut87

Town hall 9's don't benefit from attacking a town hall 8. They receive a penalty of 10%. My point is up until town hall 9 you can attack the town hall above you with a decent strategy and do well. There is no strategy against inferno towers other than the freeze spell but it is unlocked at the same town hall as the inferno towers themselves.

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I don't agree with this I've taken on a town hall 10 and two starred him with lavaloonion....and gowipe..of course gowipe was harder to do but it's possible