Arguing over loot is ignorant, idiotic, pointless, and subjective

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Originally Posted by Gama321

The thing is that drastic changes usually have unwanted side-effects which is what they would most definitely want to avoid. That's why I think its highly unlikely that the mechanics of the th would change, and I don't really want it to (protecting my loot and all :p). It would also make it less casual, at the moment I can log off and get sniped quickly and I know I have a shield, it would be a pain to leave my house and not know if I have a shield and how many times Im getting raided and stuff, although people would quickly adjust and accept if that were to happen.

Naturally such a change would be more beneficial to active players so in the end I would benefit from it still so there's no real reason for me to be against it, but the idea of my base being more vulnerable still irks me.

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I get your point, I also love being sniped, -10 trophies for a 12h shield? Sign me up!

I am part of the problem. I am barching in C2 so when I see an exposed TH I will always snipe it, 100k loot and a bit of de. Most of the time the bases I snipe would send barch home, but loonian could get most storages. By sniping the base I am hiding them from potential attackers for 12 hours. Thats a big deal when most of the barchers do it.

TH11 can't be casual gameplay, you can't tell that from TH10 prices and build times and strategies like loonion, GiantWizard will become farming strategies. I'm not expecting to be able to barch a TH11 base. (Well, except for collector bases but you can't rely exclusively on those)

It would hurt farmers if they modified the shield mechanism but in the long run people would adapt and deal with it. Losing half of your available resources (200k/200k) from time to time is not a big deal when you can also hit others, without nexting for 5-10 minutes.

Loot is often increase very high, sometime very low that you couldn't find dead base. FACE IT BRO! Find the way to smash those pesky th10s

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Originally Posted by antimatter

NO. just no. that will have to make everyone protect their th, which breaks the whole point in farming... The best fix is EVERYONE put their th outside. That way we can all just snipe each others townhall in high leaugues and leave and be happy with the loot bonus.

And arguing about loot is reasonable IMHO. If i cant find any good bases (and i usually do) of course id be curious where it went.

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You can't convince everyone to put their TH outside, that would be the best temporary solution of course. Supercell would "fix" that since it would not only make the game boring but it would seriously hurt their profit, and they are no charity. Imagines a clash dominated by TH sniping bots.

At TH8 you can farm lots of people, TH7s with 3 weak mortars and premmie TH9s so you have lots of potential targets. At TH9 you have to farm TH8s, which have 4 1hit mortars, you can farm them without problems due to the lack of xbows and archer queen. At TH10 the pool of potential targets is very small, this is where many people start farming the league bonus (pick on weaker bases and grab 100k/100k+). The reason why only poor bases are left in the queue is that smart farmers expose their TH and get sniped within a minute so you are left with the bases which barely have any resources available. If you find these in a high league you raid them for the loot bonus plus whatever loot they have.

I know it would hurt, just imagine the zappers hitting your storage many times after you log out, but the shield system has to be updated or TH11 would consists of 10+ minutes nexting sessions. Neither of us want that.

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Originally Posted by iErvin

I get your point, I also love being sniped, -10 trophies for a 12h shield? Sign me up!

I am part of the problem. I am barching in C2 so when I see an exposed TH I will always snipe it, 100k loot and a bit of de. Most of the time the bases I snipe would send barch home, but loonian could get most storages. By sniping the base I am hiding them from potential attackers for 12 hours. Thats a big deal when most of the barchers do it.

TH11 can't be casual gameplay, you can't tell that from TH10 prices and build times and strategies like loonion, GiantWizard will become farming strategies. I'm not expecting to be able to barch a TH11 base. (Well, except for collector bases but you can't rely exclusively on those)

It would hurt farmers if they modified the shield mechanism but in the long run people would adapt and deal with it. Losing half of your available resources (200k/200k) from time to time is not a big deal when you can also hit others, without nexting for 5-10 minutes.

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Yep th11 is still quite abstract. Loot meachinisms would need an overhall, upgrading buildings would have to change too as prices would be absurdly high, or all th10 upgrades would have to be scaled down. No point really looking at what th11 would be at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Gama321

Yep th11 is still quite abstract. Loot meachinisms would need an overhall, upgrading buildings would have to change too as prices would be absurdly high, or all th10 upgrades would have to be scaled down. No point really looking at what th11 would be at the moment.

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Currently there is no need for loot/shield system changes (maybe a few extra collector raids would help), hence I was talking about possibilities for the future.

And people come to the forum to discuss topics, loot happens to be a hot topic.

There are indeed many variables, but players always want to share their experiences on the topic.

My issue with loot is it's inconsistency and how much next it requires to find it.

I'm not going to argue, I'm just going to say loot for me I crappy.

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Originally Posted by XxA1xX

Way to make a thread that has been debated since the game started. By the way loot is fine.

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Way to give a valid response to said thread.

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Originally Posted by prettycoolguy

Way to give a valid response to said thread.

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Ill give you that arguing over loot is ultimately subjective but the rest of the title doesn't make sense, or did you just add the first words that came to mind?
Its not pointless as many people have adjusted their league and strategy after discussing it, furthermore by your standard I guess every discussion is pointless thus making this forum pointless as well.
Due to that I don't see how you can regard it as ignorant, especially since discussion is a means of becoming less ignorant.
Given this I don't see how you call arguing over loot idiotic either.