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Problem Against Moving Target.
As Many of you already faced during raid & or clan war,
Wizard & Dragon cannot do any damage against moving target. It does not matter whether it's fast moving goblin or slowest Balloon. I have seen a wizard follow castle balloon target and shoot lightnings like 3 times and hit blanks until balloon stop to drop bomb on target balloon previously chosen. They(Wiz, Drag) can only hurt Non-Moving Objects. Which is a real bummer. Why don't they fix it?
They have a problem because they attack slowly. This means they target a troop or building and if that troop is killed by something else before they can discharge their attack they just fire a blank. If each time what they target gets killed off before they fire they can fire multiple blanks in a row. This could be fixed by making them fire faster but then they would be seriously OP.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunsetpark
This does not happen to Single Projectile per target firing unit like Archer. Archer takes enough moment(yes little quicker than goofy wizard) to start fire, yet Archer does damage every time her arrow is released to a valid target.Quote:
Originally Posted by sj74
Maybe it's not a bug and its done on purpose? If wizards could hit moving targets, perhaps they would then be too effective?
Yes that is exactly why it doesn't happen to the archer. Because she fires quicker.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunsetpark
My opinion. Single shot firing unit will not miss live target. I don't think the splash guy no dam to moving target issue i posted is related to preparation speed of unit ready to fire. Dragon splash is pretty fast but yet it shoot blank til that target unit(like giants, king, balloon they all very slow) is stopped to do something like break building.Quote:
Originally Posted by sj74
Yes it is related to the speed of shot. The same thing used to happen with wiz towers and mortars but they seemed to fix that so maybe they will be able to fix this. The problem has been around since the very beginning of CoC. Here is a link to a very old thread reporting the problems with the wizard tower misfiring and discussions around the subject http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ll=1#post35093Quote:
Originally Posted by sunsetpark
The problem is the same with the wizard when it is not on it's tower.
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Originally Posted by sj74
If you know, do you know the splash damage effective area(squares) for some of these key units(wiz, drag)?
Not sure, have you tried the wikia?Quote:
Originally Posted by sunsetpark
I will try to watch fight replays over n over til I see. Wish me luck plz.Quote:
Originally Posted by sj74
Im sure its listed as 0.5 tiles.
And yes, being as tower got fixed i wouldve hoped the troop could be.
However, with the significantly smaller splash radius of the troop vs tower, same solution might not work.
Practical temporary solutions:
Never rely on wiz as primary CC killers, for exactly this reason. I was so used to using witches, that i tried using wiz on my mini, and was forcibly reminded of this problem.
It is the small troops that you use to shield the wiz that are causing the problem, but wiz will get slaughtered without them. So....
Try using a giant or similar as wiz shield. Wont attack the troops, so wont cause a misfire.
Only drawback is, as the giant walks to a def, cc wont be so tightly bunched anymore.
Perfect fix: use witches, they work. I dont even bother putting a wiz behind them, because the skellies will cause constant wiz misfire, unless its something big like dragon, loons.
0.5 tile that's sooo small area unless u got large ipad zoomed in max or something,(me samsung s5 phone). Thanks for info. That splash no fire(not misfire) problem I raised in another inquiry. However, with 0.5(not even 1 tile) splash damage size, may explain wizard misfiring(lightning flies out but not hitting the target) even slow moving target like balloon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superfinch30
Im not sure i entirely get what youre saying there. Ive never seen a wizard miss the target when it actually does fire, as in see the lightning/fire shoot out.
em.. u can see this like when after king go out to his hit target range and return, and king won't be harmed while walking back to king size bed. One of few.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superfinch30
Ok...new one on me, I'll start paying closer attention. Im sure its usually more that walls get in the way in that example. Wiz seem to completely forget they have a ranged projectile attack, and feel they must sit in his lap to kill him.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunsetpark
I've seen a group of CC wiz miss a balloon, several times. The wiz were shooting at max range though. With a goblin it happens far easier. Even WT can miss a goblin moving at max speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superfinch30
Some projectiles are homing (arrows, cannonballs, rockets, etc). But some are not, wiz projectiles being one of them and obviously also mortars.
Correction. They may seem to be homing projectiles, but they are just matching the speed of the target. since Wizards and Dragons have such slow attack speeds, they will miss 90% of the time if they are hitting a moving target. Archers have a 1 sec (About, not really sure) attack speed, so they can just rain hell down on troops that are moving because of their fast attack/reload speed. this, in tandem with the targeting AI of troops on defense is why wizards mis fire a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoyobuae