Improve healer AI

A few threads lament that healers are poor at higher levels. Yes they are. They take up a lot of space, and then don't perform well. Why don't they perform well, I think is because their AI is not up to the complex battlefields at higher levels. Basically, they stupidly abandon the troops needing healing (eg giants) and focus instead on mass pawns, such as bunched archers. They seem to be drawn by numbers. I suggest that this shuld be changed.


I suggest that healers need an AI change, such that they will preferentially heal by troop type. Probably, this should be by troop tanking quality. Giants ahead of barbarians ahead of archers. Possibly simply rank the preference by troop initial hit points, and not by battlefield bunching.

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Originally Posted by George1971

A few threads lament that healers are poor at higher levels. Yes they are. They take up a lot of space, and then don't perform well. Why don't they perform well, I think is because their AI is not up to the complex battlefields at higher levels. Basically, they stupidly abandon the troops needing healing (eg giants) and focus instead on mass pawns, such as bunched archers. They seem to be drawn by numbers. I suggest that this shuld be changed.


I suggest that healers need an AI change, such that they will preferentially heal by troop type. Probably, this should be by troop tanking quality. Giants ahead of barbarians ahead of archers. Possibly simply rank the preference by troop initial hit points, and not by battlefield bunching.

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That would be a pretty good fix to the healer AI. But then there will be those that complain that I continues to keep healing the 1 giant and leaving a bunch of giants.

So here is my proposal. In a 1 tile radius (or however much a healer heal splashes), the game calculates how many total initial hit points are there and choose that. They will continue with that "group" unless something happens to snap it out of its "coma" in which it will recalculate.

Who uses healers past TH6 anyway.

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Originally Posted by Pyroflame

Who uses healers past TH6 anyway.

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i use healer as part of my standart army

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Originally Posted by George1971

A few threads lament that healers are poor at higher levels. Yes they are. They take up a lot of space, and then don't perform well. Why don't they perform well, I think is because their AI is not up to the complex battlefields at higher levels. Basically, they stupidly abandon the troops needing healing (eg giants) and focus instead on mass pawns, such as bunched archers. They seem to be drawn by numbers. I suggest that this shuld be changed.


I suggest that healers need an AI change, such that they will preferentially heal by troop type. Probably, this should be by troop tanking quality. Giants ahead of barbarians ahead of archers. Possibly simply rank the preference by troop initial hit points, and not by battlefield bunching.

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I am not sure what you describe is the fix. But t might be nice if they did fond some ways to make the healer worth using at some of the upper levels. As things stand now it becomes obsolete after a point. Maybe a range increase (so that if in a straight line it can't get reached by an AD that's being attacked by giants it is healing. The attack has to come from the side to get it) or maybe an HP increase to make it last longer or less spaces.

But also if healer/golem became viable I am not sure how that might work, maybe too OP.

Ikr! Healer serious need AI improvement.
I use her in my army ALL the time.
But she is a bit stupid, she sometimes sticks to healing fully healed groups of giants that are not taking any damage from cannons or any defenses at all, when I have a few wizards that are being attacked and need healing really badly.
I know Supercell already improved healer AI, but she needs to go to college for her to be this smart
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Originally Posted by Pyroflame

Who uses healers past TH6 anyway.

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What is it about TH7 that makes the healer suddenly useless? Dragons? Pfft!

A giant-healer army backed up by barch and/or wizards is pretty fun at TH7, especially with rage spells (I use 1 heal 2 rage). Sure it's not as effective as mass dragons or hog riders, but far cheaper than either.

I can't speak for TH8, but at TH7 the healer still seems quite effective, at least against TH7 and lower bases. TH8's with their 3 AD's still scare me away though, lol!

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Originally Posted by Xitra

What is it about TH7 that makes the healer suddenly useless? Dragons? Pfft!

A giant-healer army backed up by barch and/or wizards is pretty fun at TH7, especially with rage spells (I use 1 heal 2 rage). Sure it's not as effective as mass dragons or hog riders, but far cheaper than either.

I can't speak for TH8, but at TH7 the healer still seems quite effective, at least against TH7 and lower bases. TH8's with their 3 AD's still scare me away though, lol!

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I was an avid giant-healer user that didn't believe in the almighty power of barching. I even used it for a few weeks after upgrading to town hall 8. But I was getting sick of having to pick on town hall 7 and rushed town hall 8s. So I tried barcher.

End of story.

You are right, air defences scare me off. I like the improvement, but I don't think it would make me use healers again. Maybe when I get to higher leagues, but at this stage, there isn't any point in using healers for me.

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Originally Posted by Pyroflame

Who uses healers past TH6 anyway.

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I think that's the point of this thread.

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Originally Posted by MrH

I think that's the point of this thread.

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Yes. To improve healer AI just a little, to make them sometimes possibly not useless above TH6/7